Curse

cadvan · Jan 18, 2007, 06:00 AM // 06:00

alright....here is the deal
i needed amber for my kurzick armour so i used all my factions to trade in......now i cant complete "Befriending the Kurzicks" quest....
wich means i cant go on further into the game....
how can i make more kurzick factions???

Jeff Highwind · Jan 18, 2007, 07:40 AM // 07:40

Fort Aspenwood, Jade Quarry, Alliance Battle, Faction Farming outside Lutgaris Conservatory.

Pick your poison. AB by far produces the fastest results since Factions FORCES you to PvP.

The Revolutionary · Jan 18, 2007, 08:28 AM // 08:28

Do a string of Alliance Battles. You'll get more than enough faction to continue, and you can trade your excess faction for Amber, which you can then sell for a decent chunk of cash.

Cebe · Jan 18, 2007, 09:22 AM // 09:22

Learn from this mistake. ALWAYS get as many Characters as possible to complete the "Befrending..." quest BEFORE you cash your amber in.

Sencartha · Jan 18, 2007, 10:21 AM // 10:21

Yeh, go 2 a Kurzick Gulid Hall, and then talk to the guy that takes you 2 alliance battle, then you can get more Faction

SotiCoto · Jan 22, 2007, 11:11 AM // 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Learn from this mistake. ALWAYS get as many Characters as possible to complete the "Befrending..." quest BEFORE you cash your amber in.

No point really...

The real trick is to get the relevant "Befriending" quest out of the way before cashing in the faction points gained from doing all the various NON-repeatable quests around the two faction areas.

The quest-grinds in Ferndale and Maishang Hills aren't particularly fun after the third or fourth time.... but it pays off far more quickly to take all the non-repeating quests, and taking all the available quests for a particular faction and exploring quickly (to get more outposts and more quests) will pay off 10k faction in no time. Its something people are generally going to do anyway... so there is little point keeping various characters on hold just to get OTHER characters to the same point in the game.
If you've done as I did with the Luxon faction however and cashed all that in as soon as you got it, then discovered you needed to befriend them and have none left..... well..... for what its worth, I found that Fort Aspenwood pays off quite well.... and I'm sure the Jade Quarry would too if anyone bothered to go there.

If you'd sooner do the grind though... I know a few tricks to make doing runs of the two quests in Ferndale and Maishang Hills respectively more efficient.... since I've done them all quite a lot.

BlueNovember · Jan 27, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Highwind

Fort Aspenwood, Jade Quarry, Alliance Battle, Faction Farming outside Lutgaris Conservatory.

Pick your poison. AB by far produces the fastest results since Factions FORCES you to PvP.

AB = 10k faction in .... hours? Presuming you win. Presuming there's teams playing.
FFF = 10k factions per 35-40 minutes.

Kowalsky · Feb 06, 2007, 09:44 AM // 09:44

yea, and you need to find FFF team to invite you for run, and if you are not part of alliance that does FFF...very hard that they will invite you...even for door.

try challenge mission right after 24h restart to get most faction of it...

SotiCoto · Feb 07, 2007, 11:03 AM // 11:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueNovember

AB = 10k faction in .... hours? Presuming you win. Presuming there's teams playing.
FFF = 10k factions per 35-40 minutes.

I declare shenanigans.
Faction farming in Ferndale I find ... if I take the most efficient route possible to do both quests... it takes me about 15-20 minutes to get 800 faction.
Thats about 3.5 to 4.5 hours to break the 10k mark... if I'm grinding it constantly.

I guess theoretically I could equip a running build and try just the delivery quest.... but I'm not sure that would work any faster...

chowmein69 · Feb 10, 2007, 07:42 PM // 19:42

if u fff outside lutgrdis, ull get 400 kurzick faction, 150g , 2000exp in like .... 2-3 min

Joey Of MU · Feb 10, 2007, 09:09 PM // 21:09

It is possible to ff without a guild. I can do it with my ranger running the Lutgardis run solo in around 5 mins. It gets about as much faction as winning an AB but AB are much more fun so I chose to do them when I need faction.

Jeff Highwind · Feb 11, 2007, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Yea you can FFF without a guild but you still have to dump faction. Only way is to dump it into amber.

And 150g per trip? That's about 1 plat per 7 runs. How long would 7 runs take at the fastest?

SotiCoto · Feb 12, 2007, 12:06 PM // 12:06

I assume "FF" is faction-farm.... but whats the third F for?

And how the sweet hell do you get that kinda faction in 2-3 minutes just outside Lutgardis? ... And besides, what does being in a guild have to do with any of this? o_0; I've tried doing Shadow Form runs from House Zu Heltzer through Ferndale delivering the package, and it takes me about 10 minutes IF I don't run into Oni on the way, otherwise about twice that.

I'm interested now. I need another 30 amber to get the correct 15K guise this time.

[I've been ABing recently, which pays off better than Fort Aspenwood at least, giving around 400 if I'm massacred and around 1250 if I'm on the winning side.]

Qcho · Feb 15, 2007, 12:21 AM // 00:21

FFF means Fast Faction Farm
and in fact one run (400 faction) take max 1.5 min with 5-8 man team , at least for us

it look something like that:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Team_-_Lutgardis_FFF

SotiCoto · Feb 15, 2007, 02:36 PM // 14:36

Ah.... its not Solo or Henchie-compatible.... I see...

So how would I go about finding a capable team for FFF?... It looks to have a place for runners of all levels of capability, depending on destination... and I DO play an Assassin Primary...

hotman · Feb 16, 2007, 03:01 AM // 03:01

join a kurzick guild, say u wanna fffing guild ull get faction quickly, and if u dont donate, then u can make *some* cash out of it i almost have 100k after 2 days of solid grinding, then amber, then running, then amber and my guild doesnt mind cause i tell em that im getting cash for better fffing shit lol but now i just donate it more fun imo helping out the guild.

Knight Of Cydonia · Feb 16, 2007, 04:33 AM // 04:33

there are ups and down side to getting the faction
1.fff produced the most faction the fastest but how many of us can say that fffing is "fun"

2.ABing is fun but it might take a long time to get a group
3.Fort Aspen is the same and there are lots of leechers there and if your kurzick you almost always given a loss

4.Quest are sometimes more fun than the others but they can get repeitive, the upside is that you can get some fog out of the way when you go exploring which is a plus to anyone that wants a carto title