Feb 09, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02
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#21
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Seattle
Guild: Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Ok that really wouldn't work ok... you know he has this skill:
All your Build would do is heal him constantly.
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yeah I know he has that skill, as should be evident from my post, I was just trying to brainstorm.
I wasnt aware that he couldnt be knocked down, so that nerfs my entire idea even further. I guess the best bet is concussion shot then and aim for his longer casts and hope you can keep it on him for long enough to matter. If edenial works as a general rule perhaps qz and quicksand and bring a BiPper?
Obviously my idea wasn't to heal him, but I figured if he was on his butt, he CANT remove the hexes and cant heal himself.
Last edited by lennymon; Feb 09, 2007 at 08:10 PM // 20:10..
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Feb 09, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36
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#22
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jan 2007
Profession: Mo/W
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Can anyone answer me this please:
- Does Mallix only uses skills to attack a player ?
- If he doesnt, how much is the damage inflicted to a player? (I know it depends on the armor, but +/-, how much is it?)
- Does he attacks fast?
PS: Since "Unyielding Anguish" has a 1.5s cast time on Mallix, "casting skills" that interrupt spells wouldn't be more efficient that bow attack? (Just asking)
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Feb 09, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28
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#23
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Master of Mallyx
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: The Kaizen Order [Kaiz]
Profession: E/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiji
Can anyone answer me this please:
- Does Mallix only uses skills to attack a player ?
- If he doesnt, how much is the damage inflicted to a player? (I know it depends on the armor, but +/-, how much is it?)
- Does he attacks fast?
PS: Since "Unyielding Anguish" has a 1.5s cast time on Mallix, "casting skills" that interrupt spells wouldn't be more efficient that bow attack? (Just asking)
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1) No, he uses regular attacks. It seems to me he has a hammer warrior's attack rate.
2) A lot, 80+ (closer to 100 on casters) if I recall correctly.
Unyielding Anguish casts in 3 seconds, he does not activate skills twice as fast.
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Feb 09, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56
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#24
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Check behind you again.
Profession: N/
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Weapon of Remedy, Vengeful weapon, And lifestealing FTW?
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Feb 10, 2007, 12:14 AM // 00:14
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#25
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Seattle
Guild: Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]
Profession: R/
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well, there's still [wiki]Shadow Smash[/wiki] and [wiki]Wild Smash[/wiki] I believe those would count as attack skills, and +200 damage and target randomly shadowsteps doesn't seem all that helpful to the tank for holding aggro.
Honestly though, more I think about it, a r/rt oath spammer sounds useful... (sorry had to run off and do some work)... with like interrupts, oath shot, dissonance, shadowsong and mebbe pain. Yes he has a skill that can remove blindness every 7 secs, but how often do spirits attack? every 2 secs?. I also feel that applying one condition, which granted he can use to heal 300 pts every 7 secs (assuming your Ranger is completely inept and misses this interrupt every time with counting - as he WILL use consume torment every 7 secs if hes blind) BUT will also eliminate an equal or more amount of party damage is an ok tradeoff.
Last edited by lennymon; Feb 10, 2007 at 12:49 AM // 00:49..
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Feb 10, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23
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#26
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Guild: Solstice of Midnight [SOM]
Profession: W/
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As much as I hate to complicate matter further you have to remember that whatever build you plan on using against Mallyx has to be able to also deal with the titan / torment waves before the door to Mallyx even opens.
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Feb 10, 2007, 01:46 AM // 01:46
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#27
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: East Coast Australia
Profession: A/Mo
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mesmers own every boss possible, glint, shiro and anyone else. everyone ever heard of blackout? blackout spam ftw
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Feb 10, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51
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#28
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by riojin
mesmers own every boss possible, glint, shiro and anyone else. everyone ever heard of blackout? blackout spam ftw
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I hope that was sarcasm.... even if it was... I'm still not done laughing from your comment after what was just posted about 2-5 hours ago.
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Feb 10, 2007, 02:13 PM // 14:13
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#29
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: The Ebony Citedel Chest
Guild: [TWS] The Warriors Stronghold
Profession: E/
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may not be relevant but...
i am trying to get a rit to old mallyx now im at GoA with him just forming a group with a rit lord=impossible
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Feb 10, 2007, 06:32 PM // 18:32
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#30
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: England
Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Domon Kasho
i am trying to get a rit to old mallyx now im at GoA with him just forming a group with a rit lord=impossible
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Well yeah... what use is a Rit Lord, seriously. Everything is focused on the tank. If something does break off Prot Spirit is more useful, Shelter would die in seconds if it involves the tank. Union wouldn't even be seen, it'd die too fast. Displacement isn't worth mentioning either. Soothing or Recuperation could be worth mentioning (specially against Stunning Strike, Magehunter Smash and Backbreaker). Offensive spirits aren't worth mentioning at all.
As for a rit healer... i've never actually played 1. But without the power of Heal Party or Dwayna Kiss you don't really have much chance.
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Feb 10, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33
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#31
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Dec 2006
Guild: Last Phoenix Riders
Profession: A/
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Just a question ... Do Mallyx's skills go through shadow form?
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Feb 10, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33
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#32
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jun 2006
Guild: Heroes of the Horn
Profession: A/Me
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I've only been to DoA once, and didn't make it very far (I was an assassin and the only melee character there x.x), but I know a thing or two about interrupting, ranger and mesmer being two of my favourite classes.
So, I've got a question: How is mallyx effected by conditions? Would something like dazed work? This shadow step this is a spell after all. If you can daze him you'd double the cast time, and where Diversion fails to shut it down, [skill]Power Block[/skill] might succeed.
Also Mesmers with a high fast cast can drop their interrupt cast times even further (1/8th of a second), then it just becomes reflexes.
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Feb 10, 2007, 09:06 PM // 21:06
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#33
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Check behind you again.
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by riojin
everyone ever heard of blackout? blackout spam ftw
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Both Shiro AND Mallyx have super recharge times. blackout seems to do nothing.
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Feb 10, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36
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#34
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*
Profession: W/E
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lol this thread makes me laugh!!
<Recalls the "MAKE PVE HARDER THREADS"*
laughs some more.
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Feb 11, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32
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#35
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: California
Guild: Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]
Profession: Me/
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we asked for an elite mission and we got it. stop yer whining.
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Feb 11, 2007, 12:56 AM // 00:56
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#36
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: The Generals Blackhearts
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Puddles
we asked for an elite mission and we got it. stop yer whining.
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but why arent they thinking out of the frames?? all iwe seen them do is make the boss stronger, faster, non-interupptible etc... and why are we still seeing so many ele/warrior/monk/nec groups? i mean would it hurt for them to think out a boss that would acctualy prefer his ass being kicked from other professions?
and yeah i also dont know how the heck i could get my Rt through any of the 4 sub-missions... not without a help from a guild
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Feb 11, 2007, 07:30 AM // 07:30
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#37
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jun 2006
Profession: Mo/
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any interrupt will counter this easily .... i used to wait while mallyx was at the last 10% with my lb gaze just for the interrupt on his summon shadow , and lb gaze is a 1 sec cast... any1 who cant interrupt summon shadow with a 1/4 interrupt skill is no good
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Feb 11, 2007, 08:37 AM // 08:37
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#38
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Finland
Guild: Half Man Half Amazing [ZING]
Profession: Me/
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The legendary GuildWiki says this about using Diversion and Blackout against Mallyx:
"Consume Torment purges all hexes and conditions and converts them into a strong source of healing. This skill can be Diverted however. In fact, as Diversion is, itself, a hex, it will cause him to try and use this skill and lose it for a significant amount of time."
"Disabling Mallyx's skills with skills like Blackout."
So what is it? Do they work or not? I have a habit of believing pretty much anything on that site...
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Feb 11, 2007, 10:19 AM // 10:19
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#39
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Frost Gate Guardian
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I just laugh when I see all these posts about the anticlimatic new so-called-elite area DoA (dead on arrival).
I am not touching this area even with a telescopic barge pole.
The whole concept sucks big big time and it only spolit the eagerness of many players to encounter this utter crappy place and even more so Razah.
OMFG, Razah, the pulicity behind Razah and what to we get, a ritualist and you have to get those gems to gain him after killing ubber mobs.
Sorry Anet and those who will disagree with me but no gg in doa.
All for now .....
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Feb 11, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37
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#40
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Ascalonian Squire
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Quote:
I just laugh when I see all these posts about the anticlimatic new so-called-elite area DoA (dead on arrival).
I am not touching this area even with a telescopic barge pole.
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-your post has nothing to do with helping this thread, your just complaining about doa and how it's too hard for you, doa is a place for something harder in PvE and it's a place to rly earn some $$. This thread is for comming up with a way to beat mallyx since the update that made him better. And I still don;t understand how mesmer skills have no effect on mallyx...I've tried using a necro with blackout and it has been working unless the mesmer gets teleported right away
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