Curse

mcsumo · Nov 02, 2006, 05:21 PM // 17:21

This is my perma pre monster you can see the title there. I am currently doing some 'research' (started today). The easiest place I found was just outside Ashford Abbey, you can aggro a strider, lead him to the shrine and let him kill you repeatedly. Anywhere else seems to involve a lot of running around. The bad news is the result of todays 'research'. Using this level 14 character and aggroing/leading a strider to the shrine.

Striders level deaths required total cumulative
to reach this level character deaths

1 / 0 / 0
2 / 2 / 2
3 / 5 / 7
4 / 6 / 13
5 / 7 / 20
6 / 9 / 29
7 / 10 / 39
8 / 13 / 52
9 / 16 / 68
10 / 18 / 86
11 / 22 / 108
12 / 26 / 134
13 / 32 / 166
14 / 38 / 204
15 / 49 / 253

Total time expended on this.....approx 5 hours. I used frenzy a fair amount of the time to speed things up too. I will keep you posted as my 'research' progresses.

Cheers!!

Darn the spacing for all the numbers didn't work out as I had hoped, I will try to formulate a proper table for it. Hope you can make sense of it for now.
Just looked again and the headings are all messed up too. The numbers are :- Striders level/ Number of character deaths required to reach this level from previous level/ Total cumulative character deaths

Fred Kiwi · Nov 02, 2006, 06:21 PM // 18:21

what you do is go around killing EVERYTHING untill you get level 16. then you do the quests.

thats probably the only way

Eviance · Nov 02, 2006, 08:22 PM // 20:22

*sighs and wishes more people would learn to read the thread* Fred.... Read the post RIGHT before yours and if that still doesn't help check back a page.

Jooshe · Nov 02, 2006, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by Warrior1986

Ok. I'm assuming then you have to make a choice between the Survivor title track and this one? Since in order to get this title, you have to do this thing called death-leveling.

or get a really generous friend to be your personnal saccer....or run 2 accounts, probably more likely

Count to Potato · Nov 03, 2006, 12:54 AM // 00:54

too bad presearing was sooooo oooooo ooooo long ago for me, even for black dyes i dont go to it

T1Cybernetic · Nov 03, 2006, 01:10 AM // 01:10

I keep a character slot free and keep a character in pre-searing

i have a ranger there at the moment at lvl 10 but i've been
considering bringin it through to old ascalon to unload all the stuff i've collected and then remaking it like usual

then making
another elementalist, they own pre-searing

firestorm ftw

Pre-searing is the only place you cant really go to unless you remake a character so it's nice to have
a prescence there and i'll definatly at some point be trying out this title there just for the hell of it...

runningfaraway · Nov 03, 2006, 01:35 AM // 01:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Kiwi

what you do is go around killing EVERYTHING untill you get level 16. then you do the quests.

thats probably the only way

Some people should really learn how to read before writing something useless.

Lambentviper · Nov 03, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32

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Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik

If you go over the wall and let the other guy Death Level the Charr, then you kill them.

It is possible to get Defender of Ascalon and Survivor in Pre Searing.

Anyone have any ideas on how long this would take?

and how would you manage to kill a group of level 20 charr before they killed you??

this would make a lot more sense on ANet's part if they made you pay-to-play. Talk about a money-sink!

Desires · Nov 03, 2006, 06:41 AM // 06:41

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Originally Posted by Lambentviper

and how would you manage to kill a group of level 20 charr before they killed you??

this would make a lot more sense on ANet's part if they made you pay-to-play. Talk about a money-sink!

Because theres no DP and you would be close to them in level if you took them to 20. Also pre searing mosters arn't bright in regards to AoE damage.

Hand of Shiva · Nov 03, 2006, 08:40 AM // 08:40

Huge waste of time or not its a title, and some folks want to experience every title. Sure its not for me but you know I gotta say for those people who manage to hit 20 in presearing Congrats. You have 1000x the patience I or probably most gamers have. I hope you enjoy your title, and probably the fortune in black dye you've collected by killing everything that moves in presearing

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n00kie · Nov 03, 2006, 11:44 AM // 11:44

What if you and your friend were rangers and you both had highlvl pets ?
I mean, Comfort Animal is the only hard rez in pre right ? Well, that can be very useful, just have the Charr kill the pets over and over, then you and your friend can just go in an kill the Charr.
This way is probably faster than soloing because the Charr get 2x XP from not one but 2 pets, AND you get a clean slate while attempting for the survivor title. Doable ?

dmndidjit · Nov 03, 2006, 02:24 PM // 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by n00kie

What if you and your friend were rangers and you both had highlvl pets ?
I mean, Comfort Animal is the only hard rez in pre right ? Well, that can be very useful, just have the Charr kill the pets over and over, then you and your friend can just go in an kill the Charr.
This way is probably faster than soloing because the Charr get 2x XP from not one but 2 pets, AND you get a clean slate while attempting for the survivor title. Doable ?

Good idea.

As long as they are getting XP from pet kills it will work. The first set of Char you run across over the wall stay in position so you could just get them to kill your pet (two at once might be too much for them, so you might want to send the second in after the first is dead) and then keep rezing them with nothing in BM for a quick death. Someone just needs to test it to see if beasties get XP from pet deaths.

Jiao Yang · Nov 06, 2006, 11:06 PM // 23:06

If I remember correctly, people a couple of months ago were moaning that thier characters were deleted becuase they reached a high level in pre sear.. don't know if this was true but if it was they're going to be pretty hacked off

amish lifeguard · Nov 07, 2006, 12:06 AM // 00:06

thats not true, god anti P has a mini pet, hes a year old and lvl 20

blood4blood · Nov 07, 2006, 12:10 AM // 00:10

Another confirmation - title is real, and you can death level the mobs. Here's a screen of my lvl 14 W/R in pre- leveling a strider, with title track visible - screen was taken about 5 minutes ago:

Bar Fight · Nov 07, 2006, 09:57 AM // 09:57

The title is possible and infact someone has it. i didnt ask permission to have their name out so i blacked all names out.

n00kie · Nov 07, 2006, 12:56 PM // 12:56

Ok, update.
The idea I had doesn't quite work as expected. I aggroed a lvl2 wolf and pulled it to an aloe, then I had my lvl1 strider attack the wolf. The wolf would not die because of the aloe's heals. This way I had my strider die at the wolf's paws something like 60 times (33 times would have been necessary for a lvl up). Conclusion: foes don't gain XP when they kill your pet.
It may be that I did something wrong, although I can't see what. Anyway, I'd really like for another person to test this, preferably in a different setting (other monsters). Just have a pet, aggro a monster, pull it to some healing, then heal yourself without attacking. Your pet will start attacking your attacker, the attacker will then turn its attention to the pet and kill it. Please count your pet's deaths, and make note of the lvl difference between your pet and the foe (to know how many deaths to count)

EDIT Another update: I tested it in scrimmage. Only the first time you kill a pet you get the xp. All the other times afterwards you get 0. Anyone have any ideas ?

BaconSoda · Nov 07, 2006, 08:59 PM // 20:59

Well, aside from legendary survivor, now we know who has too much time in GW.... Other thread says approximately 100 hours for this thing to happen, minimum. This and Legendary Survivor have to be the only grind in this game......

Tve · Nov 08, 2006, 12:53 PM // 12:53

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Originally Posted by BaconSoda

Well, aside from legendary survivor, now we know who has too much time in GW.... Other thread says approximately 100 hours for this thing to happen, minimum. This and Legendary Survivor have to be the only grind in this game......

If you are an unskilled person you've got to grind to Legendary Survivor, yep.

My mesmer got it by playing the game (questing, elite capping, playing through both [back then] chapters). And I know of plenty other people who have also earned it by playing properly. Didn't feel like grinding for a second. That would be "earning" the title by slaying minotaurs or "standing next to someone who slays minotaurs".

Jetdoc · Nov 08, 2006, 03:57 PM // 15:57

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Originally Posted by blood4blood

Another confirmation - title is real, and you can death level the mobs. Here's a screen of my lvl 14 W/R in pre- leveling a strider, with title track visible - screen was taken about 5 minutes ago:

Frenzy + Healing Signet FTW (in death leveling, at least)!!!