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Bane of Worlds · Aug 03, 2006, 12:12 PM // 12:12

has anyone reach the corner of the map where you see the end of the actual map?

now I'm at 99.5% and I'll post my map so that someone can help me out to find the missing percentage the game refuses to award

the 1st file is the end of the actual map I reached thru my alliance

the second and 3rd files are the maps that I need an analysis

freekedoutfish · Aug 03, 2006, 07:56 PM // 19:56

It can be done by a Tyrian explorer

Both canthan and Tryian grandmaster!

Myster Grim · Aug 03, 2006, 11:29 PM // 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik

Myster Grim, I only analyze full maps, and your Canthan Full map is just a thumbnail.

If you could repost a full map, I will analyze it for you.

full map view Full fixed thanks in adavance Dougal

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3...m991catae7.jpg

Kook~NBK~ · Aug 04, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27

Howdy folks! I've scrapped my knees along every rock, tree, jade wave, and tennament building I can find. I'm now at 99.7% and can't seem to find that last little bit. (Isn't that the way it goes, tho?) Here's my map if someone could check it out and find those bits of fog I've missed. Thanks!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/kookNBK/99.jpg

Dougal Kronik · Aug 04, 2006, 05:32 AM // 05:32

Myster Grim, that link doesn't have a map at the other end.

Kareem · Aug 04, 2006, 06:58 AM // 06:58

How do you compare two maps in photoshop? Anyone care to explain how?

Thanks...

freekedoutfish · Aug 04, 2006, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kareem

How do you compare two maps in photoshop? Anyone care to explain how?

Thanks...

The way I did it......

Assuming photoshop uses a similar method to Paint Shop Pro X (which I use), then my advice is:

Go into your map view, remove the interface (left ctrl+left shirt+h), zoom out and screen capture.

Open both your captured map and a 100% zoomed out map in your photo editing software (try to ensure your map was captured at the same resolution as the 100% one your comparing).

OPTIONAL: Increase the brightness on both images by the same amount to make it easier to see details.

Copy the entire 100% map.

Paste it as a layer your map.

Now im going to assume there will be a "layers" toolbar which will apear or which can be viewed, so you can edit the layers properties within an image.

Go to, or open, the layers toolbar. Select the top layer (which should be the 100% one), and adjust its visibilty.

Meaning if you reduce it to 0 visibility, you can see the layer underneath, which is you map. Then when you increase it back to 100 visibilty it will only show the 100% map.

So keep playing with it like that, until you notice any differences between them.

Dougal Kronik · Aug 04, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25

Here is LuXa's guide to creating Difference maps with Photoshop.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LuxA
Difference Map Tutorial

You'll need:
- Photoshop (any version will do)
- A 100% uncovered map:
1024x768 (thanks to Asrial)
1280x1024 (thanks to Leighwyn)

1) Take a screenshot of your zoomed-out map in Guild Wars. Be sure to press Shift+Printscreen to remove all icons.

2) Open up Photoshop and load in both the 100% map (link above) and your current map (found in your Guild Wars\Screens folder). (picture)

3) If your map is at a different resolution to either of the 100% maps, you'll need to resize it.To do this, go to Image -> Image Size..., make sure Constrain Proportions is checked, and type in 768 for the height. Click OK (picture). Go to Image -> Canvas Size..., click the centre square, make sure Relative is unchecked, and type in 1024 for the width. Now your map should line up perfectly with the 100% map. (picture)
(note: this step assumes you're using the 1024x768 map as reference)

4) We're done with your map. Press CTRL+A to select your entire image, CTRL+C to copy, move over to the window with the 100% map (you did have both maps open in Photoshop, right?) and press CTRL+V to paste. In the Layers box down at the bottom right, you should see two layers - the 100% map at the bottom and your map above that. (picture)

5) Now we'll compare the differences. In that same Layers box, you'll see a dropdown menu saying "Normal." Click on it, and select "Difference." Before doing this, make sure you have your layer with your map selected (by default it's called Layer 1). (picture)

6) You should now have a difference map, consisting of mostly blacks and little spots of colour. Dark areas denotes places which are the same in both maps (i.e. places you've uncovered), and bright areas shows the places which are different (i.e. places you haven't uncovered). (picture)

7) If you want to check on any area manually, just go to the dropdown menu again (in the Layers box) and select "Normal." In the same Layers box, you'll see an eye to the left of your layers. Clicking it will turn your layer invisible, and clicking it again will make your layer reappear. Just zoom in on the area you want to inspect, and click the eye over and over again in quick succession. This will toggle your map on and off and will allow you to see exactly where the difference is. (picture)

A note about the 100% map. There are a couple of uncovered areas I know of:
- Dunes of Despair bonus area
- A spot in Tangle Root, just west of Henge of Denravi
- North-west corner of Mineral Springs

If those areas show up as bright spots in your difference map, do a manual comparison described in step 7.

There ya go. If GIMP is anything like Photoshop, the steps won't be too different. The important things are: Resizing/cropping (if necessary), layering your map on the 100% map and setting the Blending Mode (as it's called in Photoshop) to Difference.

Shyft the Pyro · Aug 04, 2006, 06:24 PM // 18:24

I haven't had the time lately to reply to this thread, but I'll try to cover the non-Photoshop-related posts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eve The Sorceress

has anyone reach the corner of the map where you see the end of the actual map?

There are many places you see a similar image on your minimap, but to my knowledge there is only one place in Tyria where you can actually walk to the very edge of the map:

I can post the precise directions to reach that spot, but it's so much nicer to have people figure the location out for themselves (or see them squirm because they can't

)

Quote:

Originally Posted by saix

Ok I just spent time going through about 15 pages and grew tired, so I hope nobody asked this question already.

I am a Tyrian character and I cant get to the portal for the Vizunah Square (local) It is blocked off and I tryed with a canthan character backwards and it seems like its remapped for tyrian. Any advice?

As stated before, to enter the Local Quarter of Vizunah Square you have to walk a Canthan character who has the quest to the gate and have them talk to the guard. All gates in Cantha open only to characters who have the appropriate quest, so you should go to the Marketplace and tag along with someone who needs the quest. As most Canthans are lower than level 20 at that point, you should find it easy to get into a party.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myster Grim

Can someone please take a look at my maps and let me know what I missed. Thanks in Advance.

If you want Dougal to compare your first image (full map) using his Photoshop method, you should take a "clean" screenshot of your map, without all the map markers.

As for the rest, you're still missing:

-north wall of Boreas Seabed outpost;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor outpost (uncover from inside the outpost);
-NW and NE corners of Arborstone explorable;
-north wall of Ferndale;
-west wall of Kurzick Fort Aspenwood outpost;
-NE corner of Fort Aspenwood battle area (Luxon side);
-NE corner, SE corner and west wall of Jade Quarry battle area;
-east wall of Melandru's Hope;
-north wall of Morostav Trail;
-SW corner of Amatz Basin outpost;
-SE corner of Kurzick Unwaking Waters outpost;
-NW corner of Unwaking Waters explorable;
-east wall of Rhea's Crater (east of Seafarer's Rest);
-north wall of Rhea's Crater;
-SE corner of Aurios Mines battle area;
-SW corner of Gyala Hatchery explorable;
-east wall of Archipelagos;
-SW corner of Maishang Hills;
-NW and NE corners of Tahnnakai Temple explorable;
-north wall of Imperial Sanctum mission (Shiro's banishment area);
-east wall of Kinya Province;
-SE corner and center of Panjiang Peninsula;
-the mountain spot west of Tsumei Village;
-east wall of Haiju Lagoon.

Your first Shing Jea link opens up into a thumbnail, not a screenshot, so you could be missing more. Since you have the Monastery Overlook uncovered, you don't need to hit all the spots listed to get your title.

Quote:

Originally Posted by River

Analyse my map please, im am now at 98.7 %.

Wrong forum. This is the Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer thread in the Canthan Explorer's League forum. If you want help with your Tyrian map, please find the appropriate thread in the Tyrian Explorer's League forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eve The Sorceress

I'm stuck at 99% on my character lol but I'll use TC Fish's map to see what I'm missing despite I did wall hug like crazy the first time thru the areas except for Unwaking Waters lol

Unless you're missing a particular area like Jade Quarry or Monastery Overlook, you probably need to uncover a lot of tiny spots in multiple zones. I highly suggest using Leighwyn's map and ALT+TAB method of map comparison posted on page 2 of this thread. Leighwyn's map is stitched together from screenshots of his "U" window, so there are no map markers that can obscure terrain on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeno Breaker

I need a little help, cant seem to defog this area, i dinno how to access it.

As stated, that is the explorable Minister Cho's Estate. In Factions, most mission areas can be entered backwards after completing them as explorable areas. In many cases, most notably Tahnnakai Temple and Nahpui Quarter, the explorable contains areas you can't access while on a mission due to the locked gates, and the two above zones in particular have additional area almost equal to the mission path.

Of course, most are much smaller - Zen Daijun only netted me an extra 0.3% when I walked its edges after helping some Canthans do the Unwelcome Guest quest - but each little bit counts when you're going for an exploration title.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leighwyn

Know how you feel...there is a spot in Cantha that so many people seem to have, but that I've been unable to achieve no matter the time invested or the carefulness with which I walk the walls. Sometimes the game just seems very random in when and if it will reward you.

Then perhaps the mighty Leighwyn needs to post a screenshot of his "U" map so we know which area you're talking about and can give you tips on uncovering it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

But ive hugged the corners countless times after being bannished and it just doesnt seem to reveal the bit I need.

I had the same problem with a few spots I found while comparing people's maps to Leighwyn's, spots that weren't on his map. When I went back to the spots I thought I'd find the missing piece, I realized that I just gave up too early or wasn't wall-hugging the right spot or facing the right way to uncover the bit.

Positioning - where you're trying to uncover something from - seems to matter as much as facing does in Guild Wars. I've approached spots I though would get uncovered right away only to have them clear up when I turned around, away from the wall. My best piece of advice to you is to be persistent and make absolutely sure you can't uncover something before saying it can't be done

Quote:

Originally Posted by krann shin

hmmm.. ive gotten to 98.1 and dont seem to find any obvious that i can spot anymore. any help is appreciated

You're still missing:

-SE corner of Kinya Province;
-north wall of Jaya Bluffs;
-east wall of Haiju Lagoon;
-east wall of Zen Daijun;
-north wall of Raisu Palace explorable;
-north wall of Imperial Sanctum mission (Shiro's banishment area);
-east wall of Vizunah Square mission;
-west wall of Tahnnakai Temple explorable;
-south wall, NW corner and center of Shenzun Tunnels;
-SE corner of the Undercity;
-NW corner of Sunjiang District explorable;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor outpost (uncover from inside the outpost);
-SE corner of Nahpui Quarter mission;
-the "farmland" spot east of Maatu Keep;
-north wall of Boreas Seabed outpost;
-south wall and NE corner of Fort Aspenwood battle area;
-west wall of Kurzick Fort Aspenwood outpost;
-SW corner of Maishang Hills;
-NE corner of Gyala Hatchery explorable;
-north wall of Rhea's Crater;
-center of Silent Surf;
-south wall of Unwaking Waters mission;
-SE corner of Kurzick Unwaking Waters outpost;
-SW corner of Amatz Basin outpot;
-NW corner, NE corner and south wall of Mourning Veil Falls;
-NE corner of Morostav Trail;
-east wall of Ferndale;
-NW corner of Arborstone explorable (top level west of Tanglewood Copse).

Quote:

Originally Posted by NesQik

Thx for advice hera are may "U" map, I'm tryaing alt+tab method but i only finde 0.3% I can't finde more

You're still missing:

-NW corner of Bejunkan Pier;
-Dragon's Throat outpost (uncover from outside the outpost);
-north wall of Imperial Sanctum mission (Shiro's banishment area);
-south wall of Vizunah Square mission;
-NW corner, NE corner and east wall of Tahnnakai Temple explorable;
-south wall of Nahpui Quarter explorable;
-SE corner of Nahpui Quarter mission;
-the "farmland" spot east of Maatu Keep;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor outpost (uncover from inside the outpost);
-east wall of Sunjiang District explorable;
-north wall of Boreas Seabed outpost;
-north wall of Arborstone explorable (top level west of Tanglewood Copse);
-SE corner of Arborstone explorable;
-north wall, east wall and center of Ferndale;
-west wall of Kurzick Fort Aspenwood outpost;
-SE and NE corners of Fort Aspenwood battle area;
-SE corner and west wall of Jade Quarry battle area;
-east wall and SE corner of Melandru's Hope;
-NW corner of Drazach Thicket;
-north wall of Morostav Trail;
-NW corner of Mourning Veil Falls;
-NE corner of Amatz Basin outpost;
-south wall and NW corner of Unwaking Waters explorable;
-south wall of Silent Surf;
-south wall of Rhea's Crater;
-east wall and NE corner of Gyala Hatchery explorable;
-SE corner and north wall of Maishang Hills;
-east wall of Archipelagos;
-north and east walls of Haiju Lagoon;
-north wall of Jaya Bluffs;
-north wall of Minister Cho's Estate explorable;
-north and west walls of Kinya Province;
-SW corner of Panjiang Peninsula;
-the mountain spot west of Tsumei village.

Since you have the Monastery Overlook open but are missing so much on Shing Jea Island, I suggest you open up all of it first.

Phew. That's all for today. Off to elite missions!

MasterZ · Aug 05, 2006, 07:27 AM // 07:27

Can anyone help my Tyrian character to get this title? I am stuck at 99.6%and used every method suggested. My character had been to part of the monastery overlook during dragon festival, but not the arena

.The following are screen shots of my U map. Help is greatly appreciated.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9117/gw001st5.jpg
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/903/gw002zz9.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6492/gw003dp4.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6389/gw004pb6.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/461/gw005nt0.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9941/gw006dh0.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3406/gw007ll0.jpg
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6688/gw008eu4.jpg
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9800/gw009ig1.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8666/gw010jl5.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9712/gw011gs1.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/783/gw012rl8.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6499/gw013zf4.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1538/gw014va5.jpg
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5096/gw014ayy9.jpg
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6296/gw015og3.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9910/gw016ns9.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1745/gw017mq8.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/861/gw018tc5.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/21/gw019gf1.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5427/gw020wh5.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3625/gw021wn5.jpg

ElRey · Aug 05, 2006, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Does anyone have a build for running thru Cantha? Im a Warrior atm with 53% completion.

jtchans · Aug 06, 2006, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Hi, I was wondering if you could analyze this 1280x1024 Cathan Map. I am only at 92.2% but I am already getting lost.

Places that I know I need:
Imperial Sanctum (banishment areas)
Jade Quarry

Thanks for your help.

Bane of Worlds · Aug 06, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

oh went to almost every single area and only got to 99.8% explored and I really need help on finding the last .2%

as far as I know I'm sure I have uncovered the Monastery Overlook a long time ago and have explored it on the Dragon Festival to make sure nothing was missing.
the attached map is at 1024x768

Please analyze the map
here's the updated map

Leighwyn · Aug 06, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro

Then perhaps the mighty Leighwyn needs to post a screenshot of his "U" map so we know which area you're talking about and can give you tips on uncovering it?

Good idea, I'll put one up as soon as I can (wednesday). Can't wait for this move to be over with

Mr.Destruction · Aug 06, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Hi I'm only at 97.0% of exploring Cantha but I really need help to get the rest.
And I don't have the Monastery Training Area

Plz help!

BloodyHeap · Aug 07, 2006, 05:46 AM // 05:46

Um yeah how is everyone getting into the Jade Quarry I can never muster seeing enough people to join up...reckon you are just finding friends to help out.

Mournblade · Aug 07, 2006, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElRey

Does anyone have a build for running thru Cantha? Im a Warrior atm with 53% completion.

I'd say check the Farming forum for chest-running builds.

Bloodyheap: It's luck and timing... or patience. Or initiative. All I did was play normally, and in-between missions/quests/farming I would pop in and see how many people were there. Eventually I showed up when lots of people were there and I joined in. Didn't take me very long really.