Curse

moko · Jul 16, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meikleham of Tyr

I pretty easily achieved Tyrian Grandmaster just sticking to the walls and playing the game, but I'm having a lot more trouble with Cantha. Obviously I need to go back and stick a little closer in a couple places to get that last percent, but I do have a big chunk of map that I can't seem to get to.

Almost everyone posting in this thread so far has had it mapped, so there must be some way to get to it, I just can't figure it out.

It's the circle on the picture, but it's the piece of map in the southwest corner of House zu Heltzer. It could be part of Ferndale or Altrumm Ruins, but it honestly looks like the area is through the big double doors behind Count zH...

If anyone can help me out it would be much appreciated

^^ Altrumm was right..just the mission itself =P youll need to enter every challenge mission (except Dragons Throat i think..) once to get the areas =P

Shyft the Pyro · Jul 16, 2006, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meikleham of Tyr

I pretty easily achieved Tyrian Grandmaster just sticking to the walls and playing the game, but I'm having a lot more trouble with Cantha. Obviously I need to go back and stick a little closer in a couple places to get that last percent, but I do have a big chunk of map that I can't seem to get to.

Almost everyone posting in this thread so far has had it mapped, so there must be some way to get to it, I just can't figure it out.

It's the circle on the picture, but it's the piece of map in the southwest corner of House zu Heltzer. It could be part of Ferndale or Altrumm Ruins, but it honestly looks like the area is through the big double doors behind Count zH...

If anyone can help me out it would be much appreciated

That is the Altrumm Ruins mission area. Remember, all missions except Dragon's Throat count towards the Canthan Cartographer title.

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Originally Posted by Mokone

alright, been comparing maps now, tons of them, and realised i cant find anything anymore, no matter how close i look. im taking the main parts will be in the forest since i only found ONE spot there (which i couldnt even uncover..)

currently at 99%

again, any help will be greatly appreciated :P

You're missing:

-east wall of Haiju Lagoon;
-east wall of Vizunah Square mission
-west and east walls of Tahnnakai Temple explorable;
-NW corner and south wall of Shenzun Tunnels;
-west part of the burned-out area in Nahpui Quarter explorable;
-north part of the "farmland" east of Maatu Keep;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor (uncover from inside the outpost);
-NW corner of Sunjiang District explorable;
-north wall of Boreas Seabed outpost;
-SE corner of Pongmei Valley (horseshoe waterfall);
-NE corner of Boreas Seabed explorable;
-north wall of Ferndale;
-west wall of Kurzick Aspenwood Gate outpost;
-east and south walls of Fort Aspenwood battle area;
-NE corner and west wall of Jade Quarry battle area;
-west wall of Drazach Thicket;
-north wall of Morostav Trail;
-NW corner of Arborstone explorable (both on lower and upper levels).

Your screenshots of Shing Jea #1, 2, 4; City #5; Sea #6 and Forest #1 are refusing to load for me altogether, so you might be missing something there as well.

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Originally Posted by skretth

any help would be appreciated.
I'm currently at 98.0%

You're missing:

-east wall of Kinya Province;
-parts of the mountain spot west of Tsumei Village;
-SE corner of Panjiang Peninsula;
-SE corner of Shing Jea Monastery outpost (behind storage);
-east and north walls of Haiju Lagoon;
-north wall of Jaya Bluffs;
-north wall of Minister Cho's Estate explorable;
-west wall of Kaineng Center outpost;
-west wall of Bejunkan Pier;
-north wall of Imperial Sanctum (from Shiro's banishment area);
-east wall of Imperial Sanctum (from battle area);
-east wall of Vizunah Square mission;
-NW corner of Shenzun Tunnels;
-NW and SE corners of Tahnnakai Temple explorable;
-east wall of Zin Ku Corridor outpost;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor (uncover from inside the outpost);
-west part of the burned-out area in Nahpui Quarter explorable;
-the 'farmland' east of Maatu Keep;
-SE corner of Sunjiang District explorable;
-NE corner of Pongmei Valley;
-east wall, SW corner, NW corner of Arborstone explorable;
-north wall of Ferndale;
-west wall of Kurzick Aspenwood Gate outpost;
-east and south walls of Fort Aspenwood battle area;
-east and west walls of Jade Quarry battle area;
-east wall of Melanru's Hope;
-SW and NE corners of Mourning Veil Falls;
-north wall of Morostav Trail;
-NW corner and east wall of Unwaking Waters explorable;
-SE corner of Kurzick Unwaking Waters outpost;
-east wall of Rhea's Crater SW of Aurios Mines;
-north wall of Rhea's Crater;
-NE corner of Gyala Hatchery explorable;
-SE and SW corners of Maishang Hills;
-SE corner of Archipelagos.

/catchbreath

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Originally Posted by Arch of Triumph

Stuck on 99.2%, hopefully someone can help me

You're missing:

-north wall of Raisu Palace explorable;
-north wall of Imperial Sanctum (Shiro's banishment area);
-part of Dragon's Throat outpost (uncover from outside town);
-east wall of Vizunah Square mission;
-NW corner of Tahnnakai Temple explorable;
-NW corner of Shenzun Tunnels;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor (uncover from inside town);
-SW corner of Nahpui Quarter explorable;
-NW corner of Sunjiang District explorable;
-SE corner of the Undercity;
-south wall of Pongmei Valley;
-SE corner of Arborstone explorable;
-north wall of Ferndale;
-west wall of Kurzick Aspenwood Gate outpost;
-NW corner, east and south walls of Melandru's Hope;
-east wall of Jade Quarry battle area;
-SW corner of Drazach Thicket;
-SW corner of Amatz Basin (could be inside the outpost);
-north wall and NE corner of Morostav Trail;
-south and east walls of Mourning Veil Falls;
-SE corner of Kurzick Unwaking Waters outpost;
-NW corner of Boreas Seabed explorable.

I can't load the last two of your images, so you could be missing more.

Please excuse any mistakes in any of the above that my tired eyes might have made

Sergor · Jul 16, 2006, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Ok... i hope that this time my maps will be good... sry for other times. meanwhile i fund only a 0.1%, unlocking last part of Shiro banished lands and a small fog in rhea crater. now i'm at 99.8%, hope that some1 can give help for this title

Crushedskulls11 · Jul 16, 2006, 08:13 PM // 20:13

got grandmaster title - thx a lot for those that provided the alt-tab method and maps that actually made it possible for me to get this - now to work on tyria

moko · Jul 16, 2006, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro

You're missing:

-east wall of Haiju Lagoon;
-east wall of Vizunah Square mission
-west and east walls of Tahnnakai Temple explorable;
-NW corner and south wall of Shenzun Tunnels;
-west part of the burned-out area in Nahpui Quarter explorable;
-north part of the "farmland" east of Maatu Keep;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor (uncover from inside the outpost);
-NW corner of Sunjiang District explorable;
-north wall of Boreas Seabed outpost;
-SE corner of Pongmei Valley (horseshoe waterfall);
-NE corner of Boreas Seabed explorable;
-north wall of Ferndale;
-west wall of Kurzick Aspenwood Gate outpost;
-east and south walls of Fort Aspenwood battle area;
-NE corner and west wall of Jade Quarry battle area;
-west wall of Drazach Thicket;
-north wall of Morostav Trail;
-NW corner of Arborstone explorable (both on lower and upper levels).

Your screenshots of Shing Jea #1, 2, 4; City #5; Sea #6 and Forest #1 are refusing to load for me altogether, so you might be missing something there as well.

ok, got some questions though. when i first posted my maps somewhere at 97%, you mentioned Haiju already, and i cleared a spot there, now again..where exactly is it? is it at the beach a bit up or just at the gate? since i cant seem to get anything there :/ <----------------- got that one now, silly me ><

about T. Temple explorable..the WHOLE part of the east and west walls, or only those where the brotherhood is? since i did the 'hard' part earlier the day, spent ages wallhugging there, and thought it was complete. just did the bottom one and got nothing..

think i got the spot from Zin Ku outpost, but isnt it the same from Sunjiang explorable? since i cant figure out whats missing there. :s

checked the whole wall in ferndale, got nothing, no changes on the map. started from the aspenwood gate, went down to HZH and went back to the gate.

then, you mentioned pongmei valley..im quite confused there, since you named the name of the waterfall, but i cant find a shield of it? is it where arraassh (sp?) mountainclub is, or was that a typo (with all those mean names) and you meant Penjiang Pensinblabla on shing jae? i remember a waterfall there and the name sounds like its from there.

so far i only got spots from the Aspenwood gate and from Boreas outpost. still have to check the others i didnt list above :/ i think this title hates me, lol. its getting real mean in the end :P

sorry for all the questions, but its quite confusing.

and odd that the links dont work, all are fine for me. :S

*goes back to checking points* still 0.8 to go ^^

Shyft the Pyro · Jul 16, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23

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Originally Posted by Sergor

Ok... i hope that this time my maps will be good... sry for other times. meanwhile i fund only a 0.1%, unlocking last part of Shiro banished lands and a small fog in rhea crater. now i'm at 99.8%, hope that some1 can give help for this title

You're missing:

-west wall of Kinya Province;
-NW corner of Jaya Bluffs;
-SW corner of Panjiang Peninsula;
-east wall of Haiju Lagoon;
-north wall of Raisu Palace explorable;
-NE corner of Bejunkan Pier;
-SE corner of the Nahpui Quarter mission;
-east wall of Zin Ku Corridor outpost;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor (uncover from inside the outpost);
-north part of the "farmland" east of Maatu Keep;
-NE and NW corners of Arborstone explorable;
-north wall of Boreas Seabed outpost;
-NE and SW corners of Gyala Hatchery explorable;
-NW corner of Unwaking Waters explorable;
-SE corner of Kurzick Unwaking Waters outpost;
-SE corner of Amatz Basin outpost;
-NE corner of Eternal Grove explorable;
-north wall of Vasburg Armory outpost;
-north wall of Morostav Trail;
-north wall of Ferndale;
-south and east walls of Fort Aspenwood battle area;
-SW and NE corners of Jade Quarry battle area.

You don't need all of the above since you're missing so little.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crushedskulls11

got grandmaster title - thx a lot for those that provided the alt-tab method and maps that actually made it possible for me to get this - now to work on tyria

Congrats

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mokone

ok, got some questions though. when i first posted my maps somewhere at 97%, you mentioned Haiju already, and i cleared a spot there, now again..where exactly is it? is it at the beach a bit up or just at the gate? since i cant seem to get anything there :/ <----------------- got that one now, silly me ><

about T. Temple explorable..the WHOLE part of the east and west walls, or only those where the brotherhood is? since i did the 'hard' part earlier the day, spent ages wallhugging there, and thought it was complete. just did the bottom one and got nothing..

think i got the spot from Zin Ku outpost, but isnt it the same from Sunjiang explorable? since i cant figure out whats missing there. :s

checked the whole wall in ferndale, got nothing, no changes on the map. started from the aspenwood gate, went down to HZH and went back to the gate.

then, you mentioned pongmei valley..im quite confused there, since you named the name of the waterfall, but i cant find a shield of it? is it where arraassh (sp?) mountainclub is, or was that a typo (with all those mean names) and you meant Penjiang Pensinblabla on shing jae? i remember a waterfall there and the name sounds like its from there.

so far i only got spots from the Aspenwood gate and from Boreas outpost. still have to check the others i didnt list above :/ i think this title hates me, lol. its getting real mean in the end :P

sorry for all the questions, but its quite confusing.

and odd that the links dont work, all are fine for me.

I assume that if someone is asking for help, they've already checked all the resources available to them. If you read back through the thread, you'll see that I used to point out specific directions to the spots people were missing. I stopped because of the volume of the requests, and because I'm not going to type the same thing in ten times since people are usually missing the same spots but unwilling to read through the thread. So instead, I'm giving you the general area where to look for the missing bits, and hoping that you do the smart thing: check your map against Leighwyn's as I have, using the ALT+TAB method he suggested way back on page 2 of this thread instead of blindly setting off without having any idea where precisely the spot you're missing is located.

Since you've already taken screenshots of your "U" window, you have no excuse not to compare them to Leighwyn's complete map.

Arch of Triumph · Jul 17, 2006, 03:03 AM // 03:03

Shyft, Thanks to you I was able narrow down everything down to 99%! The last 1% was SE chuck of Durheim Archives (Explorable), quite tricky if you ask me.

Thank you for your time and effort for helping everyone reach their Grandmaster title.

Cheers!

Mournblade · Jul 17, 2006, 04:50 AM // 04:50

I'm at 99.95%

I'm at 99.95 freaking % lol

*goes fetal*

Shyft the Pyro · Jul 17, 2006, 05:07 AM // 05:07

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Originally Posted by Mournblade

I'm at 99.95%

I'm at 99.95 freaking % lol

*goes fetal*

Before you go fetal, mind taking screenies of your "U" window and posting them here so fresh eyes (mine, others') can compare them to Leighwyn's map?

Crisostomo · Jul 17, 2006, 10:27 AM // 10:27

I want to thank everyone. To the contibutors and analyzers (especially to Dougal and Shyft). This is the area where i found the last .1%. Its quite impossible really to spot w/o being analyzed. It is in Haiju Lagoon (North of Zen Daijun)

Guinevere Ac · Jul 17, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20

need help guys. stuck at 99.6% for a long time now... i know there's a part of the banished area i havent explored but hdh can i go there?

if anyone can help with the banished area i'd appreciate

Mournblade · Jul 17, 2006, 01:59 PM // 13:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro

Before you go fetal, mind taking screenies of your "U" window and posting them here so fresh eyes (mine, others') can compare them to Leighwyn's map?

You're very kind to offer, but I feel the need to do this myself. The suffering makes the success all the sweeter. =)

Thank you!

*goes back to fetal position*

moko · Jul 17, 2006, 04:46 PM // 16:46

just got mine while exploring unwaking waters where i found 3 parts 0_o

thanks a bunch to Shyft for all the mapchecking and Leighwyn for the map

funny how i finished 2 titles at Unwaking Waters now. :P cursed area i bet =p

and maybe ill be decent enough to help out some people by comparing maps now.

Shyft the Pyro · Jul 17, 2006, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guinevere Ac

need help guys. stuck at 99.6% for a long time now... i know there's a part of the banished area i havent explored but hdh can i go there?

if anyone can help with the banished area i'd appreciate

To get to Shiro's banishment area, what you should do is find a "banishment buddy" - someone who also needs the area for the cartography title. Then, the two of you should go into the mission with one person switching armor to lower HP total than the other's. The person with lower HP should get banished first, and to reverse the order just make sure to reverse the HP totals between the two characters. Make sure to bring a running skill of some sort so that if your partner is banished you can lose both Shiro's and the bound boss's aggro. Snares and all-out defensive skills like Mist Form and Shadow Form help immensely.

To get to the specific spot you're missing, you should hug the north edge of the cliff inside Shiro's banishment area. Make sure to bring some way of healing yourself so that the lone spirit at the very start of the banishment path doesn't kill you.

Other than the above, you're still missing:

-NW corner and north wall of Minister Cho's Estate explorable;
-NW corner of Kinya Province;
-SW corner of Panjiang Peninsula;
-north wall of Jaya Bluffs;
-east wall of Haiju Lagoon;
-north wall of Raisu Palace explorable;
-east wall of Nahpui Quarter mission;
-east wall of Dragon's Throat outpost (uncover from outside the outpost);
-NE corner of Tahnnakai Temple explorable;
-NW corner of Shenzun Tunnels;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor (uncover from inside the outpost);
-SE corner of Nahpui Quarter mission;
-south wall of Shenzun Tunnels;
-the "farmland" east of Maatu Keep;
-north wall of Boreas Seabed outpost;
-north wall and NE corner of Arborstone explorable;
-north wall of Ferndale;
-west wall of Kurzick Aspenwood Gate outpost;
-SE and NE corners of Aspenwood Gate battle area;
-SW, NW and NE corners of Jade Quarry battle area;
-SW corner of Saint Anjeka's Shrine outpost (behind henchies);
-east wall of Melandru's Hope;
-SW corner of Drazach Thicket;
-north wall of Morostav Trail;
-NW corner of Unwaking Waters explorable;
-SW and NE corners of Mourning Veil Falls;
-SE corner of Kurzick Unwaking Waters outpost;
-south wall of Archipelagos;
-SW and NE corners of Maishang Hills.

Since you have the Monastery Overlook open, you don't need to uncover all of the above to get the title.

On a side note, how did you uncover the spot NW of Saint Anjeka's Shrine? It doesn't show on Leighwyn's map, which is why I'm asking

Sergor · Jul 17, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38

Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergor
Ok... i hope that this time my maps will be good... sry for other times. meanwhile i fund only a 0.1%, unlocking last part of Shiro banished lands and a small fog in rhea crater. now i'm at 99.8%, hope that some1 can give help for this title

You're missing:

-west wall of Kinya Province;
-NW corner of Jaya Bluffs;
-SW corner of Panjiang Peninsula;
-east wall of Haiju Lagoon;
-north wall of Raisu Palace explorable;
-NE corner of Bejunkan Pier;
-SE corner of the Nahpui Quarter mission;
-east wall of Zin Ku Corridor outpost;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor (uncover from inside the outpost);
-north part of the "farmland" east of Maatu Keep;
-NE and NW corners of Arborstone explorable;
-north wall of Boreas Seabed outpost;
-NE and SW corners of Gyala Hatchery explorable;
-NW corner of Unwaking Waters explorable;
-SE corner of Kurzick Unwaking Waters outpost;
-SE corner of Amatz Basin outpost;
-NE corner of Eternal Grove explorable;
-north wall of Vasburg Armory outpost;
-north wall of Morostav Trail;
-north wall of Ferndale;
-south and east walls of Fort Aspenwood battle area;
-SW and NE corners of Jade Quarry battle area.

You don't need all of the above since you're missing so little.

Thx a lot Shyft,when i find you, we'll drink some sake

Now i'll focus on fourth title (2 coop remaining) and then the fifth... for KOBD title. See ya

Guinevere Ac · Jul 17, 2006, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro

To get to Shiro's banishment area, what you should do is find a "banishment buddy" - someone who also needs the area for the cartography title. Then, the two of you should go into the mission with one person switching armor to lower HP total than the other's. The person with lower HP should get banished first, and to reverse the order just make sure to reverse the HP totals between the two characters. Make sure to bring a running skill of some sort so that if your partner is banished you can lose both Shiro's and the bound boss's aggro. Snares and all-out defensive skills like Mist Form and Shadow Form help immensely.

To get to the specific spot you're missing, you should hug the north edge of the cliff inside Shiro's banishment area. Make sure to bring some way of healing yourself so that the lone spirit at the very start of the banishment path doesn't kill you.

Other than the above, you're still missing:

-NW corner and north wall of Minister Cho's Estate explorable;
-NW corner of Kinya Province;
-SW corner of Panjiang Peninsula;
-north wall of Jaya Bluffs;
-east wall of Haiju Lagoon;
-north wall of Raisu Palace explorable;
-east wall of Nahpui Quarter mission;
-east wall of Dragon's Throat outpost (uncover from outside the outpost);
-NE corner of Tahnnakai Temple explorable;
-NW corner of Shenzun Tunnels;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor (uncover from inside the outpost);
-SE corner of Nahpui Quarter mission;
-south wall of Shenzun Tunnels;
-the "farmland" east of Maatu Keep;
-north wall of Boreas Seabed outpost;
-north wall and NE corner of Arborstone explorable;
-north wall of Ferndale;
-west wall of Kurzick Aspenwood Gate outpost;
-SE and NE corners of Aspenwood Gate battle area;
-SW, NW and NE corners of Jade Quarry battle area;
-SW corner of Saint Anjeka's Shrine outpost (behind henchies);
-east wall of Melandru's Hope;
-SW corner of Drazach Thicket;
-north wall of Morostav Trail;
-NW corner of Unwaking Waters explorable;
-SW and NE corners of Mourning Veil Falls;
-SE corner of Kurzick Unwaking Waters outpost;
-south wall of Archipelagos;
-SW and NE corners of Maishang Hills.

Since you have the Monastery Overlook open, you don't need to uncover all of the above to get the title.

On a side note, how did you uncover the spot NW of Saint Anjeka's Shrine? It doesn't show on Leighwyn's map, which is why I'm asking

ty. gone up to 99.8 just in the outposts u mentioned. gonna be 100% soon.
i guess the shrine one was the exclusive area we controlled once

Shyft the Pyro · Jul 17, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by Guinevere Ac

ty. gone up to 99.8 just in the outposts u mentioned. gonna be 100% soon.
i guess the shrine one was the exclusive area we controlled once

Ah, I figured as much. Thanks for confirming.

I know we don't need to have the WHOLE map uncovered for the title, but I am an insane completionist...

Erasculio · Jul 17, 2006, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro

I know we don't need to have the WHOLE map uncovered for the title, but I am an insane completionist...

Speaking about that...Here's the full map

My friend did a pretty sucky job at the scanning - granted, the map is far bigger than his scanner, but there's still a huge gap between two parts of the map. I'll see if I find another way of scanning, but in the mean time, here it goes.

Mega Upload link to full map

(And thanks, Pyro, with your help I got 100%

You noticed a few areas that I would have never seen, I think.)

Erasculio

Shyft the Pyro · Jul 18, 2006, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Thank you very much for getting the map scanned and uploading a stitched version of it. It's neither current nor complete (see south of Panjiang Peninsula and west of Shenzun Tunnels) but it provides a rare look into Factions during the development stages, when the city icons still looked like their Tyrian counterparts.

It would have been nice if they kept all the banishment portals functional, however

Evilsod · Jul 19, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

Upto 99.7% here. Just explored Vizunah and hugged it entirely for 0.2%. I'm still lost with this 0.3% though. Where are places that are missed easily? And yes i have the banishment area with Shiro.