Curse

Tahlia Tane · Aug 14, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20

So I've been trying to do this but it seems impossible. The way I tried to do it (with people, not hench/hero) is split up the team 3/3 and go at the bosses while the others stay with the Ghost Hero. Even then, it's nearly impossible. I don't do enough damage at the bosses and the Ghost Hero is taking way too much damage even though there monks who are with him.

Did anyone complete this mission on hardmode? If so, what was your team like? Mine was W, R, R, Mo, Mo, E.

The first boss I encountered was the monk boss. A level 30 monk. Jesus Christ, how do you defeat that, even with a full 6/6 team going at it? Ughhh.

payne · Aug 14, 2007, 03:46 PM // 15:46

did this missions quite easily actually...had 3 monks 1 nuker ele 1 BHA ranger (me) and a rit!

had the rit running as a WoR restoration healer, and 1 monk running as bonder (both these stayed behind with the hero and kept him alive) while the nuker me and 2 monks went and did the bonus...monks with me were LoD and healing light hybrids!

worked very well and completed it easily without the 'hero taking really any threatening damage!

Tarkin · Aug 14, 2007, 04:34 PM // 16:34

This one chill my spine...

I make 21/25 missons with just henchs...

I need:

Aurora Glade, easy with a second human (but i have my pride, i will make with with henchs)

D'Alessio Seaboard, discover how make it easy last nite, fail because confesor die from a nowhere attack...

Thirsty River, this one chill my spine...

and

Dunes of Despair, a bit hard because the bonus...

First make the mission all stay with ghost easy...
Return with a bonder, the bonder stay with ghost the other make the bonus, better if the bonder a human but you can do it with a hero...

I try the teleport trick, but i cant see no more scarbs close of the walls to pull and use necrotic...

i can join you, but now i and my heros make 21/25, i will try 15/15 with them...

wiki is your friend http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Dunes_o..._%28Mission%29

Tahlia Tane · Aug 14, 2007, 04:50 PM // 16:50

I tried the thing with the bonder staying at the ghost hero, it didn't work either. Eventually the monk took too much damage and died, and then the ghost hero died too.

Tarkin · Aug 14, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34

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Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane

I tried the thing with the bonder staying at the ghost hero, it didn't work either. Eventually the monk took too much damage and died, and then the ghost hero died too.

O.O

get the ward staff at west and put it in ramp this will slow foes, use the enchant to boost healing in ghost and use the enchant to boost your healing and use heal party... or daynas kiss... and run back... healing seed...

Tahlia Tane · Aug 14, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04

Well, nevermind that, I can't find people anymore.

This shit is just too hard. JESUS CHRIST!!!

the_jos · Aug 14, 2007, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Well, try doing mission and bonus seperate.
First bonus with necrotic traversal (on self and all heroes).
When you have bonus you prepare a team dedicated to protecting the ghost.
That's bonder (barrier and life bond) and healer with mending and other +health maintainable enchantments.
Put the ghostly on the altar with the enchantments on and stay far on the ramp while the ghostly tanks all damage.
A human monk with Seed of Life will ease things even more.

Shyft the Pyro · Aug 14, 2007, 10:28 PM // 22:28

I love Tyria. I love it so much that, back before Factions came out, I decided to walk the corners of all areas and do all bonuses to have the best possible map of the continent. Unfortunately, this meant that I had to map and do bonus in Dunes of Despair, all before there were ever heroes or henchman controls. I can't say how many times I've gone through the mission, but I know it's been a lot. Most of the stuff I've noticed is probably already recorded elsewhere (try guildwiki.org), but here are the relevant parts of it nonetheless.

1. After you clear the boss mob that comes charging through the west gate, you are pretty much free to do as you please. Nothing else will come unless you move far enough south to do the bonus. This means you can try to catch the boss somewhere along its route to take it out early and give yourself even more time to rush off south, but you'll probably spawn scarab popups outside the west gate if you do so and cost yourself more time, which I wouldn't recommend.

2. The biggest problem with the HM bonus is the mob of necromancers that will charge the Ghostly the moment you kill the first general. What you basically need is a way to kill the remaining two generals before the necromancers overwhelm the healer you left to tend for the Ghostly Hero. Needless to say, in HM this window of opportunity is even smaller due to the innate damage resistance and speed boosts.

3. After trying and failing to accomplish the HM bonus the way I did the normal one - by outracing that necromancer mob - I resigned myself to using the corpse exploit approach. I brought a bow and a vampiric weapon; I flagged my henchies back and pulled the first general; I flagged my monk hero closer so I wouldn't die and my SF hero next to me on the cliff so I'd have more firepower, and the boss went down. Then, I used Necrotic Traversal, disabled all skills on both my monk and MM heroes, flagged them close and watched them bleed out with the one vampiric weapon I "passed around" through my inventory. I believe I may have spawned a scarab which was quickly killed and allowed my MM hero to join me outside the fort, but the two others had to be Rebirthed (Sunspear Rebirth Signet is awesome). I then proceeded to move north along the eastern wall of the fort, flagged my henchies into some scarab popups, and had them rebirthed as well. With a few minions from scarab popups on my own side of the cliff, the remaining generals went down quite easily.

Mind you, I did not succeed on my first try. The first time, I pulled and killed the boss but forgot to disable my MM's skills, so he made a minion right after I re-flagged everyone onto the cliff. The second time, the boss was too far for me to pull with the bow. So, as they say, "your mileage may vary."

Tahlia Tane · Aug 14, 2007, 11:20 PM // 23:20

This is lame. The necro traversal nonsense is almost like cheating. It's just LAME!

Shyft the Pyro · Aug 15, 2007, 03:39 AM // 03:39

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Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane

This is lame. The necro traversal nonsense is almost like cheating. It's just LAME!

Yes, I know, and it makes me sad to think I had to resort to it in order to complete the mission on HM... but on the other hand, this is probably what you'll have to do if you're stuck with heroes and henchmen.

Think of it as a "necessary evil" if you must

Sophitia Leafblade · Aug 15, 2007, 10:16 AM // 10:16

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Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane

This is lame. The necro traversal nonsense is almost like cheating. It's just LAME!

Unfortually i do agree is like Cheating but unfortually Anet wont "fix" the mission to make it easier in Hard Mode (eg adding an extra couple of minutes onto the timer by killing the Boss in the Attack Waves) The bonus is a Stretch in Normal mode with the newly Aied Wurms but is still fairly do-able, Hard mode is also still do-able (ive suceeded on it with atleast twice doing it normally) but its next to impossible without Heroes and alot of AL ignoring damage.

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Originally Posted by Tarkin

This one chill my spine...

I make 21/25 missons with just henchs...

I need:

Aurora Glade, easy with a second human (but i have my pride, i will make with with henchs)

Auroura Glade isnt too hard solo but ull need Alot of Firepower and Alot of Damage taking and somesort of slowdown skill if your going. Try to get the enemy to target the middle Point while not having it as the lack captured point, they normally target the last point you captured) this makes the mobs more spread out and managable and less chance of the large mob accentally being pulled.

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Originally Posted by Tarkin

D'Alessio Seaboard, discover how make it easy last nite, fail because confesor die from a nowhere attack...

Delessio is too hard sounds like you almost acomplished it. After the mission updates after protecting Dorian and you continue on after a few minutes there is a group that will attack him weather your there or not and they suceed in overpowering him fairly fast if your dont return to him. The Best thing to do is once the mission updates take the other path (to the right on the map) and clear out any spawns/Pop ups. Then continue on as normal and if You see Dorians health drop slightly (you shouldnt if youve cleared all the pop-ups etc.) then run run run to join him.

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Originally Posted by Tarkin

Thirsty River, this one chill my spine...

Thirsty River isnt hard, we suceeded on it with 2 Monks (1 heal 1 protect), 2 Rangers (1 Barrage 1 Glass Arrows) and 2 Necros ( 1 MM and 1 SS) my friend hadnt yep capped any elite other than Barrage and had only about 12 skills unlocked in total (all Tryian) If he had glass arrows or Broad Head it would have been even easier.

Simply Take out as much of the patrols as you can, then with about 40 secs to go Target Everything on the priests and then mop up. In area 2 go to the left group 1st, then at 1:45, or 3:45 (depending on how long you take) move onto the next group.

In the last area take on the right hand group 1st (the one at the top of the map) move closish to the King to Cover him but make sure your on the Hill so you dont agroo the patrol from the Monks group. As before Kill Patrols till about 40 secs before respawn, take out priest, mop up. Next go for the Monk Group to remove the Threat of the Patrol, Attack them at 1:45 or 3:45 depending on your speed, kill the 1st patrol group, them move inside, get someone to target the Monk Boss to keep him ocupied healing himself and then use everything on the priest. Once the preist is down mop up, normally by taking the Boss out next. Then at 3:45, 5:45 or 7:45 move on to the last group using the same tactics as before.

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Originally Posted by Tarkin

I try the teleport trick, but i cant see no more scarbs close of the walls to pull and use necrotic...

The Scarab Trick does still work, Wall crawl the Place and try to find a spawn, The Scarabs dont always spawn close enough if they dont restart ot try the normal way. Sometimes you can get a strange bugged spawn where the Scarab spawns from the where the bridge lowers to (it appears from thin air) and then it proceeds to run through the Gate and into the compound, making him unusable for teleporting.

Lastly If your gonna go for the true way of doing it, Stock up on Alot of AL ignoring damage, have some kind of interupts in the party make sure u flag a Hero monk near the Ghost. Kill the 1st 4 groups that attack, move to the archers that wait by the north, kill them asap then move out of the fort kill the 1st Boss and his minions and any scarabs. Then run back in kill the last attack wave, then the boss group and then the extra group send by killing the Boss. You should have 4-5 minutes on the clock if your quick. Attack the bosses in the fort, kill any Scarabs ASAP and if possible kill them without Agrooing the bosses. Kill one of the Bosses and his minions, then inmediatly move onto the next. By the time youve killed the bosses the Ghost will be under attack. If you want the mission too, move back inside and guard him for the remaining minute or so.

Hope some of this helps.

the_jos · Aug 15, 2007, 11:12 AM // 11:12

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This is lame. The necro traversal nonsense is almost like cheating. It's just LAME!

Well, it works, even with H&H.
Your choice if you want to use it or not.

Or you could get together a decent full human team.
In my guild team (mind you, we are experienced HM guild), I stayed behind as barrier bonder to protect the ghostly.
The rest of us (5) went of for the bonus. Piece of cake.

Tarkin · Aug 15, 2007, 07:36 PM // 19:36

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

Unfortually i do agree is like Cheating but unfortually Anet wont "fix" the mission to make it easier in Hard Mode (eg adding an extra couple of minutes onto the timer by killing the Boss in the Attack Waves) The bonus is a Stretch in Normal mode with the newly Aied Wurms but is still fairly do-able, Hard mode is also still do-able (ive suceeded on it with atleast twice doing it normally) but its next to impossible without Heroes and alot of AL ignoring damage.

Agree...

You need a human bonder to make it... while the rest go for the bonus...

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

Auroura Glade isnt too hard solo but ull need Alot of Firepower and Alot of Damage taking and somesort of slowdown skill if your going. Try to get the enemy to target the middle Point while not having it as the lack captured point, they normally target the last point you captured) this makes the mobs more spread out and managable and less chance of the large mob accentally being pulled.

Agree, you tell my tatic do make this mission solo here this work, but, finish it last nite, lost patience and call a friend we make it faster, while he run crystals i past behind foes, kill bonus and return to help with crystal, very easy...
You can teleport in this mission too, if a pig closer the last gate... i read the foes dont spwan you can kill the bonus and finish mission...

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

Delessio is too hard sounds like you almost acomplished it. After the mission updates after protecting Dorian and you continue on after a few minutes there is a group that will attack him weather your there or not and they suceed in overpowering him fairly fast if your dont return to him. The Best thing to do is once the mission updates take the other path (to the right on the map) and clear out any spawns/Pop ups. Then continue on as normal and if You see Dorians health drop slightly (you shouldnt if youve cleared all the pop-ups etc.) then run run run to join him.

Agree

lol
Made it last nite before read it, the trick is dont go for bonus path go for no bonus path, this trigger a diferent foe spaw, easier... if you go for bonus path this trigger a spaw closer of dorian, this kill the NPC warrior and you will must run to save dorian...
Ok you finish this part, now kill all foes around... to avoid the further attack to dorian, return and go for bonus way... better if you clean path to bonus before get the urn, if you die you will drop urn and it not spaw again and you must start again... easy i you kown how... everrrrrr focus monks... and spread team to avoid aeo spells...

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

Thirsty River isnt hard, we suceeded on it with 2 Monks (1 heal 1 protect), 2 Rangers (1 Barrage 1 Glass Arrows) and 2 Necros ( 1 MM and 1 SS) my friend hadnt yep capped any elite other than Barrage and had only about 12 skills unlocked in total (all Tryian) If he had glass arrows or Broad Head it would have been even easier.

Simply Take out as much of the patrols as you can, then with about 40 secs to go Target Everything on the priests and then mop up. In area 2 go to the left group 1st, then at 1:45, or 3:45 (depending on how long you take) move onto the next group.

In the last area take on the right hand group 1st (the one at the top of the map) move closish to the King to Cover him but make sure your on the Hill so you dont agroo the patrol from the Monks group. As before Kill Patrols till about 40 secs before respawn, take out priest, mop up. Next go for the Monk Group to remove the Threat of the Patrol, Attack them at 1:45 or 3:45 depending on your speed, kill the 1st patrol group, them move inside, get someone to target the Monk Boss to keep him ocupied healing himself and then use everything on the priest. Once the preist is down mop up, normally by taking the Boss out next. Then at 3:45, 5:45 or 7:45 move on to the last group using the same tactics as before.

lol man again my tatic... i will chance my team for rangers... and try it... mission is not hard but... but the timer at end...

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

The Scarab Trick does still work, Wall crawl the Place and try to find a spawn, The Scarabs dont always spawn close enough if they dont restart ot try the normal way. Sometimes you can get a strange bugged spawn where the Scarab spawns from the where the bridge lowers to (it appears from thin air) and then it proceeds to run through the Gate and into the compound, making him unusable for teleporting.

Lastly If your gonna go for the true way of doing it, Stock up on Alot of AL ignoring damage, have some kind of interupts in the party make sure u flag a Hero monk near the Ghost. Kill the 1st 4 groups that attack, move to the archers that wait by the north, kill them asap then move out of the fort kill the 1st Boss and his minions and any scarabs. Then run back in kill the last attack wave, then the boss group and then the extra group send by killing the Boss. You should have 4-5 minutes on the clock if your quick. Attack the bosses in the fort, kill any Scarabs ASAP and if possible kill them without Agrooing the bosses. Kill one of the Bosses and his minions, then inmediatly move onto the next. By the time youve killed the bosses the Ghost will be under attack. If you want the mission too, move back inside and guard him for the remaining minute or so.

Hope some of this helps.

LOL LOL LOL again my tatic but its hard... but i will make Thirsty River first and wait for weakend... and finish this one to show everyone... look my name in log

...

Well now i get 23/25...

What i can say reading your post Sophitia... i have pride of my heros and henchs, but i need give up and try new heros... i have 3 earth ele... i will try now rangers... for damage... hope its work...

ty Sophitia by tips, nothing new to me ( i dont kown you must crawl for scarabs now ty)... but i will try change my damage output to rangers... if you can i can

ty a lot by reply...

sorry english not my native language...

Sophitia Leafblade · Aug 16, 2007, 08:40 AM // 08:40

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Originally Posted by Tarkin

What i can say reading your post Sophitia... i have pride of my heros and henchs, but i need give up and try new heros... i have 3 earth ele... i will try now rangers... for damage... hope its work...

Rangers Work wonders for damage output, in Clustered missions like Vizuah a Ranger/Rit with Barrage and Brutal Weapon can do alot of damage, and on most other missions Rangers with Glass Arrows, Dual shot, Forked Shot Triple shot(human only) and Needling they can do some serious damage.