Curse

PhantomNL · Aug 25, 2007, 12:18 PM // 12:18

Hi,

I have to get a few things off my chest about GW:EN.
I am a long time player of GW - have already over 3000 hours in it and i love it.
So I was very thrilled about GW:EN.
Now I played the preview and I am very disappointed.
Why ? Read on ...
1. Hall of Monuments
I liked this idea a lot ... but it is a complete joke.
I have 14 titles on my charracter and I can't use none because not all are maxed. For example I got Vanquisher of Tyria.
Cleared 54 maps on HM and it took a great deal of effort.
I can't do nothing with it.
Every title U earn (if its maxed or not) takes a great deal of work.
And now I feel its useless.
2. Hall of Monuments (again)
Watch out : DON'T put your minipets in there .... they will get costumized !
Why ?
This is complete bullocks ....
I hoped i could put them there, save inventory space which isn't all that great and can hand a pet to one of my other 7 charracters when I want to.
NO can't be done anymore.
A guildmate of mine (didn't know this) borrowed a few minipets of another guildmate and now he can't give them back.
3. Copy & Paste
I was eager to meet the new enemies ...
I saw some whisps .. waht could they be ???
It were Djinns with another name !
Whats that ?????
Got no inspiration left ?
4. Minigames
They are fun ... no complaint there.
I realize this is only a preview and we havent seen everything but this preview doesn't leave me shattered with impatience until the release next week.
I hope there will be changes especially about the Hall of Monuments.
But as I see it now, guild wars will be over for me soon.

Iuris · Aug 25, 2007, 12:26 PM // 12:26

First, if you're only playing EotN for the hall of monuments, you're in for a series of disappointments. HoM is NOT the point of EotN. A new story with new areas to play is.

HoM will at best be a simple "Hey guys, I played GW1 too" in GW2. And perhaps the equivalent of a preorder pack - some nice items of average stats.

As for minipets: of the minipets are not customized, how do you prevent people from simply borrowing pets and immortalizing then giving them back?

Keifru · Aug 25, 2007, 12:35 PM // 12:35

Right, focus on the little dervish wisps who have different noises. Let us ignore the destroyers, the jotuns (giants), the-weird-things-that-are-like-smaller-grenth's-voice...

ember2inferno · Aug 25, 2007, 01:25 PM // 13:25

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Originally Posted by PhantomNL

Hi,

2. Hall of Monuments (again)
Watch out : DON'T put your minipets in there .... they will get costumized !
Why ?

Because A-Net is trying to fix the economy.

seller: "WTS Mini Pet Gwen!"
pest: "i give u 100k 4 it"

five mins later...

pest: "Hi i sell j00 minpet gw3n 4 teh 100k+40ectoz"
buyer: "ok"

Yep, it happens. Not exclusivley to minipets, but mainly.

Blkout · Aug 25, 2007, 02:01 PM // 14:01

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Originally Posted by Keifru

Right, focus on the little dervish wisps who have different noises. Let us ignore the destroyers, the jotuns (giants), the-weird-things-that-are-like-smaller-grenth's-voice...

He's right though, most of the creatures in the preview event are just reskinned versions of other campaigns. I am dissapointed by this also.

Overall, I am greatly dissapointed in GW:EN so far. I have played all three campaigns through and been playing since the GW beta and this is so far, the least imaginative campaign/expansion yet in my opinion. So far, this one is worse than Factions to me, and that's really saying something since I thought Factions was VERY mediocre. I realize the whole campaign is not unlocked and I'm sure there is more to see, God I hope so.

wilderness · Aug 25, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

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Originally Posted by Blkout

since I thought Factions was VERY mediocre.

I think Factions has the most original and striking designs of all three campaigns, shing Jea Island an the Kurzick areas being my two absolute favorite IG.

It was also the most innovative in terms of initial ideas - even if they weren't pulled off the way we all hoped they would - and it deserves credit for this, imo.

Let's wait to see how EoTn shapes up on proper release before we start with all the complaints.

acidic · Aug 25, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

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Originally Posted by Blkout

He's right though, most of the creatures in the preview event are just reskinned versions of other campaigns. I am dissapointed by this also.

Overall, I am greatly dissapointed in GW:EN so far. I have played all three campaigns through and been playing since the GW beta and this is so far, the least imaginative campaign/expansion yet in my opinion. So far, this one is worse than Factions to me, and that's really saying something since I thought Factions was VERY mediocre. I realize the whole campaign is not unlocked and I'm sure there is more to see, God I hope so.

and this cost $39.99 , no new profession, no new slots, no new elites and no storage upgrade

wilderness · Aug 25, 2007, 02:24 PM // 14:24

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Originally Posted by acidic

and this cost $39.99 , no new profession, no new slots, no new elites and no storage upgrade

How about 18 multi level dungeons, 40 new sets of armor, 100 new skills, 50 new PvE only skills, 10 new heroes, and (regardless of what you think of it atm) the HoM? Not that you sound ungrateful at all...

You've known the above were not to be included for some time, why whine about it now?

DeBron · Aug 25, 2007, 02:45 PM // 14:45

I agree with your 3rd point completely. WAY to many reskins, the wisps aren't even slightly different when compared to the djinn.

The new mandragors are pathetic too, because they're reskined mandragors, which in turn are reskined mantids.

Why can't Anet make the enemies looks as new and astounding as the locations in this game?

Ctb · Aug 25, 2007, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Not that you sound ungrateful at all...

Umm....

Why should anybody be "grateful"? They're not giving us a nice gift, they're selling us a product. I'm not "grateful" to them for taking my money for a video game. That's a very bizarre way to look at a monetary transaction o_0

I agree with the other guy though. They put some new records in a few databases and laid out new dungeons with a map tool. If any of that was at all complicated, they utterly fail at compartmentalizing code. Nothing that was added in this release is really unique to the game engine, it's just new skins, db records, etc. The real work was in the art and planning.

$40 is complete crap. All that tells me is that maybe their no monthly fees gimmick isn't working out quite like they thought it would and now they need some cash to develop GW2.

(Don't mind me, I'm pissed off about the tourney because I made the mistake of playing a Warrior... and we all know Warriors aren't allowed in any high level content...)

Kuldebar Valiturus · Aug 25, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55

I never got that excited about HoM.

I look forward to GW2 and am not really interested in having a static vanity shrine based on a GW character. It's great that ANet is trying to address that particular segment of players that feel displaced by the new game, but it always seemed like a clunky idea to me.

I am hard pressed to find anything I am disappointed in, but it is only a preview event so the jury is still out.

Qual · Aug 25, 2007, 04:15 PM // 16:15

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Originally Posted by wilderness

How about 18 multi level dungeons, 40 new sets of armor, 100 new skills, 50 new PvE only skills, 10 new heroes, and (regardless of what you think of it atm) the HoM? Not that you sound ungrateful at all...

You've known the above were not to be included for some time, why whine about it now?

Easy now Fan Boy....
All of those things are like nothing compared to what we got from Facton & Nightfall.

I remember when I played the NF preview event, I was very tired of GW and thought about quitting, but the NF event got me hooked, I loved it after only a few hours.
This preview - well I guess it's okay...

wilderness · Aug 25, 2007, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by Qual

Easy now Fan Boy....
All of those things are like nothing compared to what we got from Facton & Nightfall.

I remember when I played the NF preview event, I was very tired of GW and thought about quitting, but the NF event got me hooked, I loved it after only a few hours.
This preview - well I guess it's okay...

I suppose I'm coming across that way a little. Cheap shot, though.

I don't by any means consider these games to be perfect; there's plenty of room for improvement and some of the additions Anet promised have come up feeling half-heated, but the manner in which the disappointments are being presented is far too aggressive.

And this is an *expansion* not a full chapter, so why should we expect the content to out-do what we've had before?

And grateful? I'm very grateful to Anet for providing a cheap solution to online pay2play, and for any content they add to a game I thoroughly enjoy playing. I don't think playing £20 for the content they've given us is that big a price to dispel all notions of thanks.

Ctb · Aug 25, 2007, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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And this is an *expansion* not a full chapter, so why should we expect the content to out-do what we've had before?

Because they're charging $40 for it, which is the price of a lot of brand new games?

They inserted a few database records and drew a few textures and icons. That's not $40 worth of material in my book.

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I don't think playing £20 for the content they've given us is that big a price to dispel all notions of thanks.

Well, you're weird. Sorry, but "thanking" someone for taking your money for a product is just bizarre.

WinterSnowblind · Aug 25, 2007, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Because a few of the enemies are reskins, you don't think the game is worth the money? What about the awesome looking new environments, or the great new quests, missions, and dungeons?

If you really don't think the game is worth the money, then don't buy it. I think we'd all be happier that way.

Cavaliera Nero Guts · Aug 25, 2007, 10:10 PM // 22:10

The worst thing for me are the new titles, you need to get a high one to buy armors and other stuff, it wont be that boring getting them if they were as the Kurzick/Luxon ones for example, for the account, but doing all the same factions farming with all mine 13 characters would be bloody boring, hope they gonna change this.

OlMurraniKasale · Aug 25, 2007, 10:25 PM // 22:25

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Originally Posted by Cavaliera Nero Guts

The worst thing for me are the new titles, you need to get a high one to buy armors and other stuff, it wont be that boring getting them if they were as the Kurzick/Luxon ones for example, for the account, but doing all the same factions farming with all mine 13 characters would be bloody boring, hope they gonna change this.

Its all about accomplishment this new expansion, with the HoM and such. I don't think having to farm 56,000(!) Norn points, however, is appropriate for an armor set. Of course, I can't see how all the other quests and missions will work being stuck in this smaller area, but I'm thinking this particular thing should be adjusted down a little (2/3 is OK since I think the way the Norn fight and tell stories and rumble is pretty ok, but NOT THAT ok).

Otherwise, good job ANet. Now just fix the intense lag in EoTN. I was in a practically empty EoTN last night late, and you still moved like you were on ice.

Swift Thief · Aug 25, 2007, 10:39 PM // 22:39

Dude, the Hall of Monuments have really no effect on us until GW2 comes out, which is two years. That will be a huge amount of time for ArenaNet to fix the HoM.

TsunamiZ · Aug 25, 2007, 10:45 PM // 22:45

i agree so far the expansion seems like its overpriced for what we will be getting...

Malakai1977 · Aug 25, 2007, 10:47 PM // 22:47

agreed, having to grind 56000 points just to be able to buy new armor is a a bit too much. Rank 3(8000) or rank 4(16000) would work

other then that in very happy with EotN so far, cant wait to see more