Curse

thunderai · Aug 28, 2007, 06:33 PM // 18:33

I am getting ready to purchase EoTN this friday and although i enjoyed the preview weekend and everything EoTN has to offer I was dissapointed that the HoM did not recognize my PvE titles with the exception of the KoaBD title track (which could have been achieved with the PvP titles too, so thats mutt).

with all of the hoopla surronding the event i figured someone would have heared something by now as to what may be in the HoM on friday. Do we know anything in addition to what we already know from the preview?

SetsunaSamurai · Aug 28, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

They are still trying to word their official announcement so that nothing they have done is wrong, and that everything is "Working as Intended."
Give 'em until Friday.

CyberMesh0 · Aug 28, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37

I'm still waiting for them to say that it was presented incomplete in the first place.

Loviatar · Aug 28, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by SetsunaSamurai

They are still trying to word their official announcement so that nothing they have done is wrong, and that everything is "Working as Intended."
Give 'em until Friday.

i did not have a single game playing bug or problem playing what was available of the game to try out.

you think Anet did something wrong??......if so what was it?

every thing in playing the game seemed to be *Working as Intended* for me so if you had something in playing the game that wasnt ....what was it?

Metal Herc · Aug 28, 2007, 10:05 PM // 22:05

I doubt they will say anything about it untill after GW:EN is realeased. Why risk pissing more people off before selling it. This way they keep some sales, and when they make a statement after it either gets people back on board meaning more sales, or it doesn't and they haven't really lost anything.

TabascoSauce · Aug 28, 2007, 10:18 PM // 22:18

Loviatar, based on the thread and the authors post, I'd bet he is talking about the Hall of Monuments. If you have not read the 14 thousand posts about how it is disappointing, then please do so now so that we do not have to rehash all the arguments about locking minipets, ignoring PvE titles in a PvE monument, how no weapons or armor from the 3 preceeding games can be used, how only the new heroes can be used, or in general how it is underwhelming.

Well dang, by my count I listed almost half of the complaints.

Thanks!
TabascoSauce

thunderai · Aug 28, 2007, 10:42 PM // 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by TabascoSauce

Loviatar, based on the thread and the authors post, I'd bet he is talking about the Hall of Monuments. If you have not read the 14 thousand posts about how it is disappointing, then please do so now so that we do not have to rehash all the arguments about locking minipets, ignoring PvE titles in a PvE monument, how no weapons or armor from the 3 preceeding games can be used, how only the new heroes can be used, or in general how it is underwhelming.

Well dang, by my count I listed almost half of the complaints.

Thanks!
TabascoSauce

Yeah, for which this thread is not ment to cover. I just wanted to know if there had been any official or un official comments about the PvE titles in HoM. I am seriously considering not purhcasing it until i know more information as the HoM is probably the only thing i care about and carrying over my accomplishments into GW2. The only saving grace about EoTN is that everything else is so good.

Its like the team from nightfall made the content and the team from factions made the HoM. which I suppose considering that the team from factions is supposedly making GW2 i am not surprised.

SirDigi · Aug 28, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56

Gaile Gray is supposedly going to be in Kamadan ID 1 when GW:EN releases. I remember her saying something like that when she was there last.

Silly Warrior · Aug 29, 2007, 03:03 AM // 03:03

Meh, HoM will change MAYBE like 2 to 3 months from now.

Even though 80% of the community wants MAJOR changes, I doubt it will happen.

GG Anet, GG.

And still no word from Gaile, at all.

Tarus From Taros · Aug 29, 2007, 03:41 AM // 03:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by SetsunaSamurai

They are still trying to word their official announcement so that nothing they have done is wrong, and that everything is "Working as Intended."
Give 'em until Friday.

I think that's pretty close. If they give a statement before EotN (which would be a very intelligent move), I can see it going something like this:

"Thank you for the feedback on the Hall of Monuments! I just want to let everyone know that we are looking into it right now and I have no new information on what will be done. I have sent out e-mails and hope to get a response back soon. We always look towards making Guild Wars a fun and exciting game and we welcome input from our players on how to make it even better ! Remember that it was just a preview event and you will be able to experience the completed version of the monument upon finishing Eye of the North. I hope to see everyone in the north! Now let's conga! "

I then foresee the release of EotN coming out and only a day or two later the forums will be flooded again with anger over the little improvements to the monument. Gaile will then throw more sugar coat on it and maybe after a few month's we will actually see some improvements. I don't expect we will ever see the Hall improved to the point that the majority of the playerbase expects it to be at however. You can almost compare this with the DoA disaster that was the NF release but the exception here is DoA wasn't glorified and used as a selling point in every single interview and preview the way that the Hall of Monuments was.

I could be completely wrong here but after playing for so long there are trends that I have noticed.

VitisVinifera · Aug 29, 2007, 04:03 AM // 04:03

one of the last posts about HoM before Gaile went live was, many of our questions will be answered when we are able to see it for ourselves. Well, that was about as miscalculated as you could ask for. And since then, she's been completely silent on it. Strange.

I'm virtually certain she knows our grievances and our reasons why, and she's brought them to the dev team which has banished her, leaving her in an impossible position.

Personally, I won't buy gwen until I hear from her about this.

Tarus From Taros · Aug 29, 2007, 04:12 AM // 04:12

I figured there are many players like you Vitis where this would affect your purchase of the game hence the Intelligent move remark. Personally, I'll still be buying it on day 1 but I think it will be slightly improved as time goes by. I admit I've become agitated by these incomplete products from Anet. I have very high expectations for this expansion seeing as both teams have been working on it for nearly a year now.

Midnight08 · Aug 29, 2007, 05:20 AM // 05:20

Latest from Gaile (on the Wiki)

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Talk:Hall_of_Monuments#Update_on_Hall_of_Monuments

Hi. I grabbed a couple of minutes of James Phinney's time just now and he would like you to know that we are still working on the Hall of Monuments. Some of the concerns that players have voiced have been or are being addressed, although obviously not every change that players have requested will be made.

Adding to that a bit, I think it's important to remember that Guild Wars is a constantly-evolving game. What you saw in the Sneak Peek Weekend is not what you will see upon release this Friday. And what you see upon release may be different than the HoM a few weeks or months down the line. Your thoughtful and constructive comments are welcome, and you know that we do listen to feedback and suggestions. There are certain core design objectives -- "visions," if you will -- that I sense will not be changing, even if there are a number of players who wish it so. However, there are other elements that may very well change, although I do not have specific information about that right now.

I hope this info is helpful, and that you are reassured to know that you are being heard and that your input is being considered. --Gaile 23:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Sasuke The Betrayer · Aug 29, 2007, 05:53 AM // 05:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnight08

Latest from Gaile (on the Wiki)

God. Thanks for the quote. Good to hear what we all expected from ANET

Rhedd · Aug 29, 2007, 06:08 AM // 06:08

"Now let's conga!"

I'm not really cutting on it, but does anyone else find it hilarious how close the actual statement is to what Tarus from Taros predicted?

Cracks me up. ^_^

VitisVinifera · Aug 29, 2007, 06:24 AM // 06:24

"There are certain core design objectives -- "visions," if you will -- that I sense will not be changing, even if there are a number of players who wish it so"

HUH?@???!?#$@?%?@#%
that's the LEAST of our concerns
more of Gaile's straw man arguments

ayame ftw · Aug 29, 2007, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros

"Thank you for the feedback on the Hall of Monuments! I just want to let everyone know that we are looking into it right now and I have no new information on what will be done. I have sent out e-mails and hope to get a response back soon. We always look towards making Guild Wars a fun and exciting game and we welcome input from our players on how to make it even better ! Remember that it was just a preview event and you will be able to experience the completed version of the monument upon finishing Eye of the North. I hope to see everyone in the north! Now let's conga! "

Im telling u Gail has here responses in a word document template
and pastes them at random times on the forums...

the only usefull 3 words comming out of her is "good bye everyone!"

cthulhu reborn · Aug 29, 2007, 06:49 AM // 06:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by TabascoSauce

Loviatar, based on the thread and the authors post, I'd bet he is talking about the Hall of Monuments. If you have not read the 14 thousand posts about how it is disappointing, then please do so now so that we do not have to rehash all the arguments about locking minipets, ignoring PvE titles in a PvE monument, how no weapons or armor from the 3 preceeding games can be used, how only the new heroes can be used, or in general how it is underwhelming.

Well dang, by my count I listed almost half of the complaints.

Thanks!
TabascoSauce

Not entirely true...you can add armours from the previous 3 games... in fact I already did. My warrior has Kurzick, Glads and Pirmeval Elite armours and all 3 addded to the monument. The main gripe there is that it doesn't actually add your armour (eg my warrior is female but it shows the male warrior version and female ele primeval...how random is that?)

Aint She Fancy · Aug 29, 2007, 06:56 AM // 06:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

i did not have a single game playing bug or problem playing what was available of the game to try out.

you think Anet did something wrong??......if so what was it?

every thing in playing the game seemed to be *Working as Intended* for me so if you had something in playing the game that wasnt ....what was it?

Except the huge Intel graphics chipset problem...which chain of events leading to my computer being inoperable. Well, yeah, a lot of people can afford nice graphics card....I'm not one of them. Bought a kinda cheap but decent one.... and crap happened. But, good things come from bad and I'm building a bad ass gaming system tomorrow. Just in time for GWEN's official release.

Rhys · Aug 29, 2007, 07:53 AM // 07:53

Wonder what "core design objectives" will not be changing...