Curse

Simath · Aug 30, 2007, 04:53 PM // 16:53

I'm not going to even bother reading more that the first three...lines. If you want people to agree with your ideas you may want make your post readable and at least somewhat educated. Otherwise, it's not worth anyones time.

/notsigned x 100

zwei2stein · Aug 30, 2007, 05:10 PM // 17:10

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Originally Posted by OlMurraniKasale

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A majority of the populace on the Internet uses shorthand and that's good to go; people who use shorthand are not trying to insult you by using it. Leave the "learn English" comments out of the thread and simply respond to the OP's petition. Most of the world doesn't speak English, but the odd thing is quite a few Internet savvy folks do indeed know English shorthand..

Ur liek teh god, dfndin teh leet ppl who r h8td by lamers.

The way comunicatin is set up, you should make at least attempt to form coherent sentence. This is not SMS, nor is it IM. You have all the time in world to write post and no technical dificulties that prevent you from writing full worrdage of each world. Especially people not spaking native english should do it.

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I think that is is QUITE obvious that OP spelled it way he did deliberatelly to annoy and insult hell of people.

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BTW: I am moderator on one quite big forum. Deliberate usage of words like "teh", "wut" (plus a lot things in language in which that forum is) nets individual lovely penalty:

* Deletion of all posts (and i mean it, ALL)
* Account termination.
* One week IP-ban on creation of new accounts.
* Nick in hall of shame.

Philosohpy thing is: If they dont care about it enough to write it properly, why the hell should anyone want to read it?

You would be suprised how well this works.

Free Runner · Aug 30, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14

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Im usually not the type to be defending Anet but..... this petition is basically to counter the changes that people want in the other petition (The thread named - Petition: Hall of Monuments Changes)

The First point i want to make before i get into specifics is...2 years people!
we have about 2 years to add to our Halls.

People are upset because they couldnt fill it up in 3 days?!? (The Preview Weekend) hmmm...if we could fill it up in 3 days, what are we going to do for the next 2 years til Guild Wars 2 is released?

1. Making the HoM Account Based
What happens when you have duplicate heroes? and duplicate titles?
are you going to be able to show your monument of fellowship to have 5 statues of Koss?

My Monuments would get so bloated, meaning i wouldnt have enough places to display everything but a character-based HoM gives me mroe places to show the things i want.

If they do decide to make it account-based....then more space please!
(Which is unlikely unless they remake the entire Explorable Area)

One of the things i would like to see is access for PvP Characters.Im going to stress this alot through this entire post...but PvE Players? are saying they are getting screwed over on the Honor monument for titles. But what about PvP Players who dont even get access to it?

2.Changes to the Monument of Fellowship

Keep the requirement for upgraded hero armour,since its not really an achievement to just obtain an hero.

I would like to see the hero statues with their upgraded armour please,and also a way to place which heros are in which spot on the monument. The rearrange button isnt practical for me due to the requirement of having to click it a hundred times and still have heros in the wrong place.

3.Changes to the Monument of Devotion

Its called the Monument of Devotion people! not the monument of trade!.
Devotion! love! comittment! you have to have these things for your Miniatures. If your not willing to customize the miniature to a character then your not devoted to it!

Trading Miniatures to put onto a Monument is not an accomplishment. Do you really want a shrine for having no meaning or value?

4.Changes to Monument of Honor
Let me see.....PvP Players get 1 Monument? and PvE players get 5 Monuments...and the PvE Players are complaining?!

PvP Players cant put their high end weapon skins and Armour onto the Monument can they? (Which by the way i think they should)

Dont forget we have another 2 years of grinding to obtain these ranks and with the new Gladiator point system leak i'm sure they are rethinking alot right now and playing with values.But if the PvE Players were able to get the Champion title i think serious GvG Players would be pissed.

Everyone wants to be a "God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals" but sorry.....it doesnt work that way. You cant be the best at everything and have every single thing given to you. People forget that title-grinders do just that....work on titles without doing anythign else.

5.Changes to the Monument of Valor
Well its suposed to show gained weapons but puttign any weapon i nthere isnt really an achievement.I would like to see Offhands customized and be given the ability to put Offhands onto this Monument. (I'm assuming that everything put onto this Monument needs to be customized)

6. Changes to the Monument of Resilience
Well yes it should show your character or at least the profession/gender.Its quite obvious but i think Anet just ran out of time.

Honestly all i can say is that Anet have been pretty smart this time around,planning ahead and thinking long term.(Which to be honest they have not got right alot in the past)

Or maybe they really did just f*ck up...though i dont think so.They're usually planning big things but dont get to implement them as planned (For example those statues were, in my opinion, placeholders due to lack of time).

People are just forgetting that they have more than a year to fill their HoM ans Anet have a year to provide it with enhancements to it. They are constantly improving the game. (Even with Guild Wars 2 to work on)

So please be patient and give the HoM time.

/notsigned.

On the Honor Monument:
Why do PvP players care about how many monuments they have? if they did care surely they would have a PvE character and therefore be able to fill the other monuments aswell?

Every PvP title is account based. PvE titles are not.

On the fellowship monument:
Its not really an achievement to me to go around buying Mini Pets but some people do and see it as an achievement in their own way. Its the same with Heros. And just to kick people in the face even more....the Heros you put up are wearing their normal attire!

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Originally Posted by OlMurraniKasale

Leave the "learn English" comments out of the thread and simply respond to the OP's petition.

Its hard to respond to something we dont understand. Though i understand the OP may not be fluent in English.

Icepic · Aug 30, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14

/not signed. I would like to see changes.

OlMurraniKasale · Aug 30, 2007, 05:22 PM // 17:22

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Philosohpy thing is: If they dont care about it enough to write it properly, why the hell should anyone want to read it?

It is written properly. It uses proper shorthand. lol

One might apply those same rules to your own post then, which has some problems; I guess all the time in the world didn't help ensure correct spelling or grammar, but I won't go into that . . ..

So, what about the OP's intention though, what do you think? That's the important part!

mazik · Aug 30, 2007, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by OlMurraniKasale

Nothing GREAT ever came from language rules.

...preventing posts like this would be a great thing from language rules.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlMurraniKasale

A majority of the populace on the Internet uses shorthand and that's good to go; people who use shorthand are not trying to insult you by using it. Leave the "learn English" comments out of the thread and simply respond to the OP's petition. Most of the world doesn't speak English natively, but the odd thing is quite a few Internet savvy folks do indeed know English shorthand.

He must speak English quite fluently in order to deliberately butcher it to that extent. It's disgusting, and he does it with intent, which makes it all the more annoying. As someone said before, if he thinks his ideas are good enough to make a petition out of them, then he should care enough to write it in proper English, not the moron equivalent.

I agree with the OP on one point, and that is the Monument of Fellowship. You should have to acquire new armour for the hero, but I would like for the armour I acquired in order to show said hero, to appear on said hero.

but thus..../notsigned.

Yawgmoth · Aug 30, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Trolling attempt detected.
I don't have much time now so I'll just feed the troll with a

/not signed

thezed · Aug 30, 2007, 05:51 PM // 17:51

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Originally Posted by OlMurraniKasale

It is written properly. It uses proper shorthand. lol

One might apply those same rules to your own post then, which has some problems; I guess all the time in the world didn't help ensure correct spelling or grammar, but I won't go into that . . ..

So, what about the OP's intention though, what do you think? That's the important part!

In all fairness, Zwei is not a native English speaker, so his grammar mistakes can be forgiven.

The OP appears to be native to the English language but chose to use "l337 speek", some odd IM shorthand, or simply had a total disregard for English and propper communication.

Torino Cowell · Aug 30, 2007, 05:52 PM // 17:52

/notsign

i can only just understand what your trying to say but from the title i can safely say i disagree with this . HoM does need changes

OlMurraniKasale · Aug 30, 2007, 06:05 PM // 18:05

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Originally Posted by mazik

I agree with the OP on one point, and that is the Monument of Fellowship. You should have to acquire new armour for the hero, but I would like for the armour I acquired in order to show said hero, to appear on said hero.

Dear lord! It doesn't show heroes in the armor (I can never get anyway)?! I am definitely not using that portion until they fix it. I know my elite armor set showed someone else, and that is obviously going to be fixed.

The HoM should definitely show the specific hero in the armor. My Elite armor should show ME and my armor.

Atlas Ravens · Aug 30, 2007, 06:09 PM // 18:09

/unread
Therefore:
/notsigned

^^There's some l33tspeak for you.

Mordakai · Aug 30, 2007, 06:16 PM // 18:16

Maybe Anet shouldn't have even attempted to have the HoM in the preview...

better to not do it all, if they aren't going to do it right.

geriand · Aug 30, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

BOOOOO
/notsigned

this is the worst topic ever. Your ideas suck and i take them as an insult! Everything you have said is anti my playing style.

wilderness · Aug 30, 2007, 06:38 PM // 18:38

/signed for one aspect:

HoM should never be account based. Account based HoM = bloated and diluted in achievement, imo.

However, I do think that many changes need to be made: PvE titles included, lowering PvP title min, making minipets account custom etc..

blah

blahblahblah

Tempy · Aug 30, 2007, 06:48 PM // 18:48

/not signed!!!

What few words that were understandable, were nauseating!

Unconventional Man · Aug 30, 2007, 06:50 PM // 18:50

GOD THE EYESS!

Seriously if you want people to even care about your topic learn to spell.

It's like a stalking street petitioner to me right now, ya just got to punch him lol

/notsigned

bloodvayne · Aug 30, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by snaek

edit: i never meant no changes wutsoever >___<
i meant anti-"teh other petition called 'hall of monument changes' "...not anti-changes
i do want changes, i jus dun agree wit a lot of teh ones in teh other petition

Because you weren't reading into them right (see my other post)
It's fine to disagree with things, unless you have no idea what you're disagreeing to.

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and, wuts wrong wit using internet slang on teh internet?
do u pronounce everything fully wit proper articulation and grammar when u speak aloud in conversation? 0__o
jus cuz i write like this, doesnt mean i cant write properly
its jus a concious choice i choooose to make
when i write essays, i use proper english...
but in case u didnt notice, this isnt an essay -___-'

ppl on teh internet tend to skim...
especially since readin on a monitor is much more straining than readin on paper
and they dun like wasting time
my petition is very skimmable imo...
jus read teh headers, and teh bold pts and ur done
10s to get teh gist of it
rather than take 2mins for a full proper-english post, where ur sorta forced to read teh whole thing

You're post was really big. That is not an essay, but it's still big enough to deserve to be typed correctly. Even short posts should all be typed correctly, so people skimming can understand the words the first time they come across them, instead of looking at them and having to guess.

I could understand if you were making mistakes, but you're doing every bit of it on purpose. If you just want people to read the headers and the bold print, that would still be easier to do if it was all typed correctly, the length of the post doesn't matter. And you're definitely not doing it for speed, because the whole post everytime you typed the as "teh", which isn't a faster way to type, you're just doing it to, well, do it. You my good sir, are a troll.

My Sweet Revenga · Aug 30, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by Etta

My god! Who was your English teacher? Mickey Rourke?

Not signed, by the way.

I thought it was wolverine. 'Nuff indeed.....

lucifer_uk · Aug 30, 2007, 07:21 PM // 19:21

I can't read more than 1 line of that, it made my eyes bleed.

/not signed going by the title

Red-Tide · Aug 30, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33

What a terrible post! Use your "essay" skills and drop the internet lingo. Not many people will take this seriously until you do.

/not signed due to bad english and over use of internet lingo.