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pamelf · Aug 08, 2007, 05:29 AM // 05:29

Well we can probably close this thread since the video from E3 (look up the guildwars walkthrough video at gamespot.com) confirmed that GW:EN will have more customization for existing level 20 characters. While I'm not 100% sure what it entails, it did look from the video that it's new hair etc, with the addition of facial hair which will be great! So, there we go. Even if it's not quite what we expect lets at least wait to see what they come up with then re-open this thread or start a new one.

Thanks Anet, you've done us proud yet again!!!

Lady Lozza · Aug 08, 2007, 05:37 AM // 05:37

Oh that is good news (hope it's only hair/asthetic stuff)

Can someone post a link for this if there isn't already one in another thread - or point to the thread with the link in it.

pamelf · Aug 08, 2007, 05:39 AM // 05:39

http://au.gamespot.com/video/938739/...walk-through-1

They announce "new ways to change the look and appearance of your existing guild wars characters."

Nevin · Aug 08, 2007, 06:06 AM // 06:06

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

Just because someone wants to change their char by either changeing the hair,face,height,or skin tones, means its not the same char at all in which you created and accepted. I think there should be soem kind of penalty/sacrifice from either costing a lot or loseing armor as Bunny stated. I say if you want to be able to change your characters hair well do one of two things, remake the char or go work for Anet and implament the NPC your self.

To Snow Bunny and White Knight Lord

You and Bunny are wrong, and I'll tell you why. When ever someone changes their armor in game (Scar pattern, Tattoos) does it change their character in the server like you say it will? Everytime a necromancer uses a Canthan scar pattern that makes his eyes change color, does that make his character different in the server? If so, then the PROBLEM you're using as your argument, already EXISTS. If hair changes work as simple as buying armor that permanently fits to your character, the harm in it will be .000000000000000000000000001. A pebble of coding in the server's ocean.

Please be real, unless your computer lags and blue screens every time someone puts on a different helmet in game, this'll have no humanly visible affect on your game play at all, other then checking out that person's sweet new hair style. As long as Anet conducts the new customization through the same way they code armor (a physical change to your character), things will be fine, and they'd be stupid not to do so.

To make sure I don't heave any holes, we've already seen that Anet can handle character size changes and things like that based off how they do so with armor, hair styles get bigger or smaller. And heres one of the many physical trait changing scars if you've never seen one for yourself.

Bryant Again · Aug 08, 2007, 06:32 AM // 06:32

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Originally Posted by pamelf

http://au.gamespot.com/video/938739/...walk-through-1

They announce "new ways to change the look and appearance of your existing guild wars characters."

It might've been referring to armors. I wouldn't hold your breath just yet.

trielementz · Aug 08, 2007, 11:38 AM // 11:38

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Originally Posted by pamelf

Well we can probably close this thread since the video from E3 (look up the guildwars walkthrough video at gamespot.com) confirmed that GW:EN will have more customization for existing level 20 characters. While I'm not 100% sure what it entails, it did look from the video that it's new hair etc, with the addition of facial hair which will be great! So, there we go. Even if it's not quite what we expect lets at least wait to see what they come up with then re-open this thread or start a new one.

Thanks Anet, you've done us proud yet again!!!

um i went through the video, checked the monk hairstyle and beard in it.. it's actually a nightfall option so i don't think it's confirmed yet.

White knight lord · Aug 08, 2007, 03:48 PM // 15:48

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Originally Posted by Nevin

To Snow Bunny and White Knight Lord

You and Bunny are wrong, and I'll tell you why. When ever someone changes their armor in game (Scar pattern, Tattoos) does it change their character in the server like you say it will? Everytime a necromancer uses a Canthan scar pattern that makes his eyes change color, does that make his character different in the server? If so, then the PROBLEM you're using as your argument, already EXISTS. If hair changes work as simple as buying armor that permanently fits to your character, the harm in it will be .000000000000000000000000001. A pebble of coding in the server's ocean.

Please be real, unless your computer lags and blue screens every time someone puts on a different helmet in game, this'll have no humanly visible affect on your game play at all, other then checking out that person's sweet new hair style. As long as Anet conducts the new customization through the same way they code armor (a physical change to your character), things will be fine, and they'd be stupid not to do so.

To make sure I don't heave any holes, we've already seen that Anet can handle character size changes and things like that based off how they do so with armor, hair styles get bigger or smaller. And heres one of the many physical trait changing scars if you've never seen one for yourself.

Fyi armors don't change the char. Armors are a simple cover like every day clothes like soemone would wear. Please answer this, when you put on clothes does it change your hair.height,face or skin tones? the face scars don't change your char eye they simply cover them as does the armor. So the only thing that I could see Anet doing is a wig system (like the holiday hats) and simply cover the old one up. So might wanna do more research.

Bryant Again · Aug 08, 2007, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

Fyi armors don't change the char. Armors are a simple cover like every day clothes like soemone would wear. Please answer this, when you put on clothes does it change your hair.height,face or skin tones? the face scars don't change your char eye they simply cover them as does the armor. So the only thing that I could see Anet doing is a wig system (like the holiday hats) and simply cover the old one up. So might wanna do more research.

Like I said: if they're able to change your gender, which is changing quite a few variables, I think that changing your hair shouldn't be too difficult. I guess we'll wait and see.

Darksun · Aug 08, 2007, 04:12 PM // 16:12

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Originally Posted by pamelf

...video from E3 (look up the guildwars walkthrough video at gamespot.com) confirmed that GW:EN will have more customization for existing level 20 characters. While I'm not 100% sure what it entails, it did look from the video that it's new hair etc, with the addition of facial hair which will be great!

sorry pamelf but the video doesn't show any new facial hair options. It's just a NF monk.

Cineris · Aug 08, 2007, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

Fyi armors don't change the char. Armors are a simple cover like every day clothes like soemone would wear. Please answer this, when you put on clothes does it change your hair.height,face or skin tones? the face scars don't change your char eye they simply cover them as does the armor. So the only thing that I could see Anet doing is a wig system (like the holiday hats) and simply cover the old one up. So might wanna do more research.

In terms of actual effects, I'm reasonably certain that changing armor does "change the char." Most armors are not just skins overlaid onto an existing body model (tattooed armor such as for Monks and Necromancers may be an exception). Exceptions aside, each armor is itself a distinct model. If you do a comparison in game you can see many physical characteristics (e.g. waist, hips, legs, bust, etc) that are noticeably different depending on what armor your character has equipped. Supporting evidence can be seen in how characters load in outposts (often piecemeal), how pieces of characters are missing with certain armors, etc.

Nemeth · Aug 08, 2007, 05:33 PM // 17:33

I've just stumbled across this thread but only skim-read the last page or so...

I find myself agreeing with both sides. I've had my elementalist since Prophecies came out, and I would welcome the chance to change hair. This isn't something new, I began disliking her hair about a year ago.

However I disagree with the "aesthetics" of a character. Hair is one thing, but body shape and face etc is another...

Someone mentioned the point about immersing oneself in the story and the character. I'm like that. However I disagree with the option to change your hair being unrealistic. Following the same principle one could imagine being an Elonian vain and proud mesmer who quite welcomes a visit to the hair stylist every so often...

Perhaps there should be a limit. I agree with it costing a fair amount (but not SO insane). Perhaps implementing a time limit would also be wise, so hair could be changed just once every 30 days for example.

And as for clones, I hold Guild Wars and Arena Net in high esteem for making it able to have a lot of diversity. Other RPGs I tried were a breathless rush to the "high levels" (if ever there was end to the ladder) and obtaining the "best" armour and weapon, ending up in everyone wearing the same things, wielding the same things, and just being a complete mesh of ... well... amorphity.

Guild Wars doesn't really have that. You pick and choose armour depending on what suits you, pick and mix on what looks good, and what serves well. Or at least I do. You don't really see a LOT of 2 people looking exactly the same, except perhaps those who farm and use black dye on their armour as a sign of 'status'/ego boost/'penile comparison'...

I don't believe that hair will cause such mindless trends, that is assuming that all styles are priced the same. Were there a hierarchy in cost, granted, people would want the more expensive ones...

I think that a hair stylist is a good idea, though it should be used in moderation and the person has to earn it.
I've created quite a few characters, by the time they reached level 8 I had already decided whether or not I was happy with them. And level 8 isn't such a great loss as level 20...

Nevin · Aug 08, 2007, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

Fyi armors don't change the char. Armors are a simple cover like every day clothes like soemone would wear. Please answer this, when you put on clothes does it change your hair.height,face or skin tones? the face scars don't change your char eye they simply cover them as does the armor. So the only thing that I could see Anet doing is a wig system (like the holiday hats) and simply cover the old one up. So might wanna do more research.

I would've explained but Cineris beat me to it, very well done so I might say. "FYI" you never want to use a witty statement to close your post unless you're 100% positive you're right.

Silly Warrior · Aug 08, 2007, 06:47 PM // 18:47

Guys I'm sorta wondering what to do with this thread as it is.

Theres a lot of arguing going on...some not so civil.

A few of you are saying that it has been confirmed? Has it? I've been pretty updated on this information, and I haven't heard anyone say "yes, hair style can change".

Can anyone provide some links showing official statements?

Silly Warrior · Aug 08, 2007, 06:48 PM // 18:48

Guys I'm sorta wondering what to do with this thread as it is.

Theres a lot of arguing going on...some not so civil.

A few of you are saying that it has been confirmed? Has it? I've been pretty updated on this information, and I haven't heard anyone say "yes, hair style can change".

Can anyone provide some links showing official statements?

White knight lord · Aug 08, 2007, 06:55 PM // 18:55

The Closest thing to any positive news on this topic is in the video (I believe) provided by pamelf around the part when the guy says there will be more costimization options for existing lvl 20 chars.

Operative 14 · Aug 08, 2007, 07:02 PM // 19:02

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The Closest thing to any positive news on this topic is in the video (I believe) provided by pamelf around the part when the guy says there will be more costimization options for existing lvl 20 chars.

Yeah, that's pretty much all I've seen in this topic that might point towards official news either way. I'm waiting for;

A) Gaile or someone to come here and either say it's impossable
B) Gaile or someone to come here and say it is possible
C) Gaile or someone to come here and say that it's in GW:EN
D) August 31st when we will all find out.

MithranArkanere · Aug 08, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Remember those magma hands in the video?
I think they refered to things like that, armors usable by all professions, isn't it?

Cathode_Reborn · Aug 08, 2007, 11:18 PM // 23:18

When browsing through the necro armor on the official wiki, I always wished I made an elona nec because the male nec shown in the pictures looks really cool, but then I noticed something:

The 1st face is the one on the official wiki.
The 2nd is a Prophecies nec.
The 3rd is an Elona nec.

Look closely at the Wiki and Prophecies nec - their face is exacly the same, except that the Wiki nec also has an Elona hairstyle. Another thing is that the pic of the Elona nec I took is the lightest skin, yet the Wiki nec has Elona hair with what looks like much lighter skin, but that could just be the lightning on the character menu.

It seems that it is possible for Anet to do, but may or may not be possible to add in for players.

EDIT: The female nec shown on the official wiki clearly has a prophecies face with canthan hair. The elemenatalist's shown on their also seem to have a mix

Nevin · Aug 08, 2007, 11:50 PM // 23:50

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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

When browsing through the necro armor on the official wiki, I always wished I made an elona nec because the male nec shown in the pictures looks really cool, but then I noticed something:

The 1st face is the one on the official wiki.
The 2nd is a Prophecies nec.
The 3rd is an Elona nec.

Look closely at the Wiki and Prophecies nec - their face is exacly the same, except that the Wiki nec also has an Elona hairstyle. Another thing is that the pic of the Elona nec I took is the lightest skin, yet the Wiki nec has Elona hair with what looks like much lighter skin, but that could just be the lightning on the character menu.

It seems that it is possible for Anet to do, but may or may not be possible to add in for players.

EDIT: The female nec shown on the official wiki clearly has a prophecies face with canthan hair. The elemenatalist's shown on their also seem to have a mix

Nice find, I noticed that to. Perhaps you simply didn't make the Prophecies necro pale enough, they can get pretty pale.

MithranArkanere · Aug 08, 2007, 11:54 PM // 23:54

Not only that. You can see many hairstyles are used between different professions.

I'm pretty sure some professions could share hairtiles, probably all females and all males can share them.

Some Warrior faces would look horrible on a mesmer, but not their hair.