Curse

Strider Howlfang · Sep 02, 2007, 09:32 PM // 21:32

OK this maybe seen as a rant but what I say is thought by more than just me.

First is the Armours, they are (bar a couple [Norn Ranger for instance]) re-skins of exsisting armours. Did ANet really think that we wouldn't notice? Asura armour looks like a remake of Kurzick Armour And the Norn have gone all braveheart with the woad. What really annoys me is that to get any of these armour you need to rank upto Rank 5! Thats 26,000 points in any of the titles and unless your willing to grind for a long time that ain't coming soon. Now think of doing that with EVERY character you want to get the armour with... But ANet was finished insulting us there! Here are the Heroes:

Now you no where all the good armour went...

My next gripe is that Lack of a Hard mode. I actually e-mailed ANet about this and the reply I got was "Due to the high level of the monsters in the game we would need to make them about lvl 30+ to make a Hard Mode." This amybe fair enough but the fact I've gone through two areas already with just Heroes and Hench I wouldn't say it was that tough.

Collector Items. Well these are just plain stupid to be hounist. Yes I agree they are cool but they are stupidly "priced".

I mean 75 Ectos for something that is simply going to make your hands glow?

I just really feel that ANet have lost touch with gamers. I mean the game isn't difficult, it isn't that fun and the amount of time it takes to grind is unbearable so I say poo to you ANet!

Sasuke The Betrayer · Sep 02, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39

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Originally Posted by Strider Howlfang

OK this maybe seen as a rant but what I say is thought by more than just me.

First is the Armours, they are (bar a couple [Norn Ranger for instance]) re-skins of exsisting armours. Did ANet really think that we wouldn't notice? Asura armour looks like a remake of Kurzick Armour And the Norn have gone all braveheart with the woad. What really annoys me is that to get any of these armour you need to rank upto Rank 5! Thats 26,000 points in any of the titles and unless your willing to grind for a long time that ain't coming soon. Now think of doing that with EVERY character you want to get the armour with... But ANet was finished insulting us there! Here are the Heroes:

Now you no where all the good armour went...

My next gripe is that Lack of a Hard mode. I actually e-mailed ANet about this and the reply I got was "Due to the high level of the monsters in the game we would need to make them about lvl 30+ to make a Hard Mode." This amybe fair enough but the fact I've gone through two areas already with just Heroes and Hench I wouldn't say it was that tough.

Collector Items. Well these are just plain stupid to be hounist. Yes I agree they are cool but they are stupidly "priced".

I mean 75 Ectos for something that is simply going to make your hands glow?

I just really feel that ANet have lost touch with gamers. I mean the game isn't difficult, it isn't that fun and the amount of time it takes to grind is unbearable so I say poo to you ANet!

It isn't difficult? I'm pretty sure if they turned on hardmode we'd get several threads about how fricking crazy the monsters are, considering some even have two elites, and they all use good skill combinations.

26k is NOTHING to get at all, it's nothing. Everything you just stated is optional grind, so it really doesn't matter. Some reskins actually look good and I can turn a blind eye to them, because I don't have to buy if I don't want to. And dude, you need to stop complaining about chaos gloves, you don't have to buy that either. It just looks cool, nothing else. Do you expect everything handed to you? If they did that, you'd rant about how boring Guild Wars is because you could accomplish everything in a couple of days. Collector Items. They're for fun, you don't need them, so you don't need to complain. Take your rant somewhere else.

wolfwing · Sep 02, 2007, 09:48 PM // 21:48

I will admit that if they give great armour for hero's why can't they give the rest of us good?

brokenmonkey · Sep 02, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54

I can't wait for this on a Gaile log;

We have seen that players want new armor in GWEN, we are working on that now!"

Don't worry, we will see it,

And for the grind, go clear 3 zones and do some quests NOT HARD AT ALL!!

helldrik · Sep 02, 2007, 09:56 PM // 21:56

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Originally Posted by Strider Howlfang

Now you no where all the good armour went...

As I stated in the other thread, agreeing with you, All good armors went to heroes, I'd want all these for my characters not for my nearly useless heroes :-/

I think would have been better if Anet made a reskin of old hero armors and gived them to us for our characters...

Should we start a new petition like this?
"Dear Anet, most of new armors sux, please give to us a way to craft heroes armor for our own characters.
best regards, GW players."

...

Atom · Sep 02, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00

You people who say grinding to rank 5 is soooo easy are being ridiculous. How many of you have jobs? How many of you have to take care of kids yourself? I'm a part time student and have a full time job. I cant sit at a computer for 10 hrs straight, 2 days in a row. One of the reasons I bought GW:EN was for the new armor, but as a casual player, I dont even have the time to get it. Finishes the story in GW:EN is faster than getting rank 5 for armor. That makes NO sense to me at all.

And the argument "You don't have to get it" is such a juvinelle rebutal. I spent $40 on this game, new armor was advertised, days worth of grind for new armor wasn't. The way GW:EN is right now, if I could, I'd return it for my money back and buy bioshock, like I should have. It is lacking in real content.

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I do have to wonder what moron decided that putting all their art resources into really attractive hero armors while taking a giant shit on the player armors was a good idea. I would hope that person is no longer receiving a paycheck from Arena.net.

Seriously, who made the final decision on that? They should be fired so it doesn't happen in GW2. Most of the retextured combos dont even look good together. I almost hope GWEN get's bad reviews, just so they might actually fix this screw up.

X Ice Man X · Sep 02, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03

Let me get this right?

Your moaning that the armour isn't very good?

Then you moan that you have to grind to get it...

You don't like the armour, don't worry about the title. Simple As.

Atom · Sep 02, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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Originally Posted by wolfwing

Uhhh yeah whine some more, how about it taking a while to EARN something rather then expecting it day 1. Shesh what evr happend to some delayed gratttification.

It was called questing to get armor before. You know... doing missions to get to where the armor is. Not going around doing the same repetitive stuff for hours and hours. The main story of GWEN is SHORTER than the the amount of time needed to grind for armor. Does that not seem like BS to you?

street peddler · Sep 02, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08

the armor for heroes is better because they cant take it off, they cant mix and match, and they cant dye it. So this means anet can make it as nice as they want without worrying about problems stemming from the above things.

GloryFox · Sep 02, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14

Although, not everything of GWEN sucks. There are somethings that are just bad design issues like they had in Factions (I wonder if that was the same team who did GWEN).

The major things are.
1) Grind - I don't care how you look at it. ANET has changed its policy of Skill over Grind to Grind over skill.

2) HoM Valor - The weapons that my character currently has are the best there are. Gold with the right perfect mods for the right builds. Another Option should be the option of setting Green items in placeholders. Any perfect weapon with perfect mods should count towards this completion.

3) Armor reskins - That was sad of you ANET, NO HERO of mine should have better looking armor than me. Also you could have done some great armor sets that were all Magma or all Chaos or All crystal, etc. You chose NOT to do it.

4) PvE skill nerfs - Fact is you had over 4 months to public test these skills after release. Why now? You were so afraid of making your game easy so you nerfed the two best passive skills in the game. If your game was THAT HARD why did people who did not use these skills still beat the game in 13 hours or less? PvE only skills were for PvE fun, did you forget the fun aspect of the game? Also if you thought they were overpowered just don't use em. Set your own challenge.

5) No new guild Halls - nuff said

6) No new PvP - even though its right there in front of you. You could have had PvP Polymock arenas even timed Solo Norn Fight arenas where you gain faction or money for every random consecutive wins. You could have had another type of PvP team based Aspenwood CTF using Siege Devourers and such. You had all kinds of possibilities, but missed it.

Atom · Sep 02, 2007, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by street peddler

the armor for heroes is better because they cant take it off, they cant mix and match, and they cant dye it. So this means anet can make it as nice as they want without worrying about problems stemming from the above things.

Please. Making the models for armor is not that hard. Even if they just started with an already existing mesh and played with it. They dye thing is a lame excuse, it wouldnt be hard to change the color of the texture for each dye color. Heck, they retextured a bunch of old armors anyways.
Have they worried about clipping with mixing and matching before? Doesn't seem like it, since a lot of combos can create clipping issues.

Aint She Fancy · Sep 02, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Wow, if you don't like the game, don't play it. If you don't like the armor, don't get it.

I'm actually ENJOYING the game. I'm having fun with new goals to reach. People need to quit acting like 12 year olds. Oh wait, they are.

Atom · Sep 02, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23

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Originally Posted by X Ice Man X

Let me get this right?

Your moaning that the armour isn't very good?

Then you moan that you have to grind to get it...

You don't like the armour, don't worry about the title. Simple As.

I paid for this game. I'm completely entitled to criticize what I dont like about it. Especially since I can't get my money back.

1. Yes, I am complaining that most of the armors are bad, or just reskinned random combos of existing armor. Where is the new content? If the end game weapons are just reskins.

2. Yes, I'm moaning that I have to grind for armors. Repetition for hours is not fun for me. Do they assume I like watching paint dry? Some I like (dervish monumental armor for instance). It's not the time needed to aquire it, its how that time is spent. I dont find hours of repetition fun. If it was time spend questing and doing missions to get to the area where the new armor is (like they've done in the past) I would be fine with it.

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Originally Posted by Aint She Fancy

Wow, if you don't like the game, don't play it. If you don't like the armor, don't get it.

I'm actually ENJOYING the game. I'm having fun with new goals to reach. People need to quit acting like 12 year olds. Oh wait, they are.

Because attacking people and not their argument is really mature.

There's parts of GW:EN I like, there's a lot I dont, like I said, I paid for it, I can't return it, I'm going to complain about what I dont like. At least this way people on the fence about buying it can read other peoples opinons, good and bad, and make an educated decision.

wolfwing · Sep 02, 2007, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Okay to all you whiners about grinding. 1-2 hours a day, clearing a few zones you get the armour in less then a week, heck you could be just now finishing one of the armours.

But let me understand, grinding to get 26k reputation is bad, but grinding to get ehcto's/materials/gold isn't? You had to have already spent hours days weeks farming to be able to get some of this armour even if your doing something easy like Wurm farming.

Hyper Cutter · Sep 02, 2007, 10:28 PM // 22:28

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

2) HoM Valor - The weapons that my character currently has are the best there are. Gold with the right perfect mods for the right builds. Another Option should be the option of setting Green items in placeholders. Any perfect weapon with perfect mods should count towards this completion.

Yeah, that's my only remaining problem with the HoM. Greens should be able to be put in there, at the very least...

thunderai · Sep 02, 2007, 10:30 PM // 22:30

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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

Yeah, that's my only remaining problem with the HoM. Greens should be able to be put in there, at the very least...

What kinds of weapons can go in there?

Jamison0071 · Sep 02, 2007, 10:35 PM // 22:35

It's been confirmed they are working on a Hard Mode version of GW:EN, but just like the other Hard Modes, it will take a little time. Though I do agree with the hero armor being better than our armor. Hell, I would pay 10000000k (well maybe not that much) for the Hero's Necromancer armor. My Necro just wants to wear latex!

GloryFox · Sep 02, 2007, 10:39 PM // 22:39

Pifff, I'll just settle for Livia's normal armor for my Necro

Hyper Cutter · Sep 02, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49

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Originally Posted by thunderai

What kinds of weapons can go in there?

Destroyer weapons, and Destroyer weapons only.

hlc617 · Sep 02, 2007, 10:59 PM // 22:59

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

4) PvE skill nerfs - Fact is you had over 4 months to public test these skills after release. Why now? You were so afraid of making your game easy so you nerfed the two best passive skills in the game. If your game was THAT HARD why did people who did not use these skills still beat the game in 13 hours or less? PvE only skills were for PvE fun, did you forget the fun aspect of the game? Also if you thought they were overpowered just don't use em. Set your own challenge.

God, yes. 20 second recharge on TNtF? At 10 second recharge it was hard to keep up indefinitely anyway because it's friggin 15 energy!

Anyway, that's really what pissed me off the most. But the armors are a close second. It was actually shocking to me that they just rather blatantly reskinned them. ANet has some sickeningly FANTASTIC artists working for them.. or at least they used to! This makes me think they fired their concept teams or something! If not, then what the heck. Would it have costed Anet too much to get a few more designs made? Did they fire all their modelers? Is the president of Anet's kid a texture artist? What am I supposed to think, other than ANet didn't want to dish out a few extra bucks for new designs? As an aspiring concept artist myself, it just makes me shake my I head. My female warrior is especially upset. The reskin of the combo 1k and 15k templar armor is especially embarrassing.