Curse

arbiter · Sep 14, 2007, 02:22 PM // 14:22

duncan makes oynx farmable, and the most this run does is lower the oynx prices. Other than that its kinda a cheap way to get money and anet will probably nerf it pretty soon

Darkfoxx · Sep 14, 2007, 04:03 PM // 16:03

I agree with the OP.

This elite mission should not be taxi-able. This is just another way for people to overfarm an area and ruin it for other people. My guild and I have been working at completing this mission boss by boss, the way you're suppose to do it.

And if you do it the right way, you get 7 chest drops, compared to 2 and the armor drop. I swear there are people who play this game that really couldn't give a damn whether they have fun or not. My guild and I play this game to have fun, not to consistantly farm an area just to say we have alot of wealth in game.

It's sad that Anet has to nerf things like this because some bad apples always find a way to exploit something that shouldn't be exploited.

allience · Sep 14, 2007, 04:41 PM // 16:41

taxi to duncan is the best thing in GW:EN imo. if u don't like it, just do the full quest and let other ppl have their fun. it's the only dungeon that has a decent reward so stop whining.

Engel the Fallen · Sep 14, 2007, 04:45 PM // 16:45

The bug is not why people want this closed. The issue is that you can repeatedly and easily do Duncan and get his rewards from the chest. I doubt anyone cares that other bosses are credited if you kill Duncan, or about the quest reward itself. Using the bug to hide behind is where people can make their argument.

And yeah I got no profit off this myself eitherway. After the rape I got trying to do this legit, the other bosses will suffer when I get my build down for it. For me, why do one reward, when the dungeon itself offers much more as a whole. Also it will save me pugging with idiots and leetists who I will need to finish this after the runner leaves.

Mordakai · Sep 14, 2007, 04:47 PM // 16:47

The question is: Is it an exploit or not? Answer truthfully.

Then the next question is: Will Anet consider it a bannable exploit?

korcan · Sep 14, 2007, 05:07 PM // 17:07

if you havent killed a single boss but get credit for the entire quest after killing only duncan, its definitely a bug.

but ferrying people directly to duncan for looting may or may not be a bug. it actually reminds me of people ferrying others to the docks for max armor in kamadan. im sure anet didnt intend for it to be that way but they havent changed it. guess well just have to wait and see.

EternalTempest · Sep 14, 2007, 05:17 PM // 17:17

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Originally Posted by korcan

if you havent killed a single boss but get credit for the entire quest after killing only duncan, its definitely a bug.

but ferrying people directly to duncan for looting may or may not be a bug. it actually reminds me of people ferrying others to the docks for max armor in kamadan. im sure anet didnt intend for it to be that way but they havent changed it. guess well just have to wait and see.

Same thing goes with the bugged guild ambasdor that allows you to Lions Arch bypassing the Nightfal -> Triya Quest. And they have people ripping ppl off on it.

payne · Sep 14, 2007, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

You should care because 20k an hour will lead to an overfarming and an influx of gold (read inflation) if it isn't stoped.

nothin nothin..but 20k per hour is nothing special. I can get around 50k per hour excluding my running service (which you've probaly seen) its easier to farm a boss or do say a vanquish or chest runs...much more likely to make a far greater sum then 20k for completeing a dungeon :P just my thoughts !

Charr · Sep 14, 2007, 05:37 PM // 17:37

I have done Duncan 2 times so far, and both times I have done all four bosses before confronting him, and now why should some guy who just payed a runner to run him to Duncan get the same reward as I?

Darkobra · Sep 14, 2007, 05:51 PM // 17:51

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Originally Posted by allience

taxi to duncan is the best thing in GW:EN imo. if u don't like it, just do the full quest and let other ppl have their fun. it's the only dungeon that has a decent reward so stop whining.

And rewards should be worked for, not handed to you.

AlienFromBeyond · Sep 14, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55

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Originally Posted by Charr

I have done Duncan 2 times so far, and both times I have done all four bosses before confronting him, and now why should some guy who just payed a runner to run him to Duncan get the same reward as I?

Technically he isn't because you got an extra 4 chest drops from taking out the other bosses.

Omega X · Sep 14, 2007, 08:15 PM // 20:15

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

The question is: Is it an exploit or not? Answer truthfully.

Then the next question is: Will Anet consider it a bannable exploit?

I would say, No and No.

No, its a bug not necessarily an exploit. Its simply a bug where a user could finish the thing without beating the other bosses first.

AND I say No again because its not monumental. Its nothing like the dupe exploit which artificially created items, could have been pretty devastating if gotten out of hand.

Evilsod · Sep 14, 2007, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by korcan

if you havent killed a single boss but get credit for the entire quest after killing only duncan, its definitely a bug.

but ferrying people directly to duncan for looting may or may not be a bug. it actually reminds me of people ferrying others to the docks for max armor in kamadan. im sure anet didnt intend for it to be that way but they havent changed it. guess well just have to wait and see.

That was so insignificant it doesn't really matter though. Its the simpler NF version of the Droks run. You couldn't do Consulate Docks straight away, which is probably 1 of the main reasons they never stopped it. It just gave you max armour for the start of the game.

But this is the whole purpose of doing the dungeon. Would anyone waste there time doing Foundry of Failed Creations in DoA if they could just skip straight to Mallyx? If the rewards become overfarmed there is little reason to do it. Other dungeons are just as fun.

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Technically he isn't because you got an extra 4 chest drops from taking out the other bosses

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True, but its not far off. The other chests drop 1 thing each... more often than not some crappy gold. Duncans chest drops 3 things or much greater value. His zone is also quite a short 1 in comparison, so you could probably do his quest using a runner 3 or 4 times before the person doing all 5 bosses has even reached him.

Mordakai · Sep 14, 2007, 08:46 PM // 20:46

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Originally Posted by Omega X

I would say, No and No.

No, its a bug not necessarily an exploit. Its simply a bug where a user could finish the thing without beating the other bosses first.

AND I say No again because its not monumental. Its nothing like the dupe exploit which artificially created items, could have been pretty devastating if gotten out of hand.

Well, didn't Anet ban some people for farming XP back when Doppleganger was repeatable, or was that an urban myth?

No doubt it's probably not there by design (a bug); but we'll see if Anet fixes it or not. If not, then I guess Anet approves!

Evilsod · Sep 14, 2007, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Anet wouldn't have bothered preventing you from accessing Duncans dungeon before you've killed the other 4 if it was suppose to happen. Thats also why they gave it a greater reward than the other chests.

It is been exploited, i really can't see it been bannable, but its definatly been exploited.

hallomik · Sep 14, 2007, 09:08 PM // 21:08

This reminds me of the Urgoz Warren Vampire farm when HM was introduced. It is definitely not what Anet intended and should be fixed. Calling it an "exploit" or a bannable offense is a bit much. It just needs to be fixed.

People cried a river of tears when they fixed Urgoz. No doubt, we'll see a lot of "pre-searing cadets" threatening to not buy GW2 after this gets fixed.

jimmyboveto · Sep 14, 2007, 09:22 PM // 21:22

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Originally Posted by Sasuke The Betrayer

20k an hour is honestly nothing. it won't affect the economy that much dude. You can always do Glint's Challenge and sell the armor piece of 10k ea. It takes 20 minutes. That's 30k an hour. And if you're talking about the decrease value of onyx gemstone, I'm sure everyone would welcome it for the destroyer weapons

This guys right, i made around 100k at glint's in a few hours. However, the price of these armor remanents are going way down. I wouldn't worry too much, the 20k or 30k per hour won't last. I'm really enjoying it while it does though.

demonatx · Sep 14, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11

Hey guys

I just wanted to comfort everyone who is posting in this forum. I know for a fact that Anet is well aware of this exploit and they are currently working on implementing a way to fix it.. It should be done sometime within the next few weeks.

But being the original runner in the American District, I'm sure gonna miss the money..ah well

CyberNigma · Sep 14, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49

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Originally Posted by demonatx

Hey guys

I just wanted to comfort everyone who is posting in this forum. I know for a fact that Anet is well aware of this exploit and they are currently working on implementing a way to fix it.. It should be done sometime within the next few weeks.

But being the original runner in the American District, I'm sure gonna miss the money..ah well

I imagine. One of the guys throwing out running invites was there all day yesterday. He came forward saying he had amde over 1 mil yesterday running people (was there in morning and still there running people last night). I'm guessing he had to stop to exchange for ecto or something at that point.

The Visitor · Sep 14, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58

guys the duncan chest is the only decent on all GWEN, why u want nerf it? U want always do a dungeon with a fantastic reward like a battlepick req 13?