Curse

demonatx · Sep 14, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56

actually it was more like only half a mil lmao

/Wont Dies This Time

jamal · Sep 15, 2007, 12:29 AM // 00:29

I'm in definate agreement that this needs to be fixed, and for more than the its an exploit or prices line. I'm ussually logged on later at night than most of my guildies due to time-zone difference except on weekends. So that 5 days were i would normally PUG this dungeon, and was with great succsess. Then thanks to the taxis groups dryed up fast like. Only 7 people in a group, least vauble person removed, aka the 3rd ele normally me as i wait for a group to get going before i join. So even if i get into a group before its filled up, i have to pay for the right to be in this party? thats not cool at all.

Gli · Sep 15, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

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Originally Posted by The Visitor

guys the duncan chest is the only decent on all GWEN, why u want nerf it? U want always do a dungeon with a fantastic reward like a battlepick req 13?

I don't think anyone here wants to nerf the chest.

Evilsod · Sep 15, 2007, 12:56 AM // 00:56

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Originally Posted by demonatx

actually it was more like only half a mil lmao

/Wont Dies This Time

Lol, makes me wonder why you didn't charge more. The quest reward is a definate 2.75k.

Mister O · Sep 15, 2007, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by The Visitor

guys the duncan chest is the only decent on all GWEN, why u want nerf it? U want always do a dungeon with a fantastic reward like a battlepick req 13?

We don't want to nerf it, but we want to fix the 'exploit'

CyberNigma · Sep 15, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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Originally Posted by demonatx

actually it was more like only half a mil lmao

/Wont Dies This Time

lol nice.. It was actually another runner that was in there (he was a necro) and can't state his name because of forum rules. 1/2 mil, 1 mill, it's still a butt-ton more than I have lol :-)

cthulhu reborn · Sep 15, 2007, 08:36 AM // 08:36

Considering this was the only way to get the armour remnants and that most casual players may not be interested in doing elite quests to get the armour remnants it is perhaps good they are becoming more common. But to say that this is the way it should be achieved is another thing.

Zunzun · Sep 15, 2007, 09:54 AM // 09:54

Duncan's chest gives 3 items because you're supposed to kill the other bosses before opening it. It's a reward for the whole dungeon, just as the quest. If one gets the chest + the quest reward without defeating any of the other bosses, then it's an exploit.

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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn

Considering this was the only way to get the armour remnants and that most casual players may not be interested in doing elite quests to get the armour remnants it is perhaps good they are becoming more common. But to say that this is the way it should be achieved is another thing.

Armor remnants are supposed to be a reward for completing the elite mission. If anyone can get some for 5k, they're not a reward anymore.

lord dragon · Sep 15, 2007, 10:37 AM // 10:37

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

No this will ruin the entire point of going to this dungeon. The point was the reward at the end was worth doing it for. If this keeps up before the end of the month Deldrimor Armour Remnants will be worthless because everyone and there dog will have 10 heroes in that armour (if they so desire), and Onyx Gemstones will be more worthless than Diamonds are now are because they only have 1 use and drop regularly from Duncans chest.

It spoils this dungeon... just like the ability to skip all 4 areas of DoA and just go straight to Mallyx would've that (DoA sucked anyway but its the same concept).

Overfarming never helped anyone.

Watching the prices come down for everything is welcome in my eyes. There is no reason to expect or keep certain things artficially high. As for the service, they will fix it eventually, but in the mean time, let them have thier fun.

As with anything it is supply and demand.

Remember, you are not entitled to get high prices on things. If it makes your stuff worthless, oh well. I have watched things over the years go up and down.

You will never get me to agree with high prices as an argument.

Please remember...

I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.

lord dragon · Sep 15, 2007, 10:38 AM // 10:38

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Originally Posted by Zunzun

Duncan's chest gives 3 items because you're supposed to kill the other bosses before opening it. It's a reward for the whole dungeon, just as the quest. If one gets the chest + the quest reward without defeating any of the other bosses, then it's an exploit.

Armor remnants are supposed to be a reward for completing the elite mission. If anyone can get some for 5k, they're not a reward anymore.

So, easy answer then. Make it so you can't sell it. LOL (joking)

The ones complaining are the ones that want the high prices.

Please remember...

I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.

Lightwave · Sep 15, 2007, 10:56 AM // 10:56

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Originally Posted by Gli

You should've stopped at:

The "bug" is that it gives you credit for the other bosses.

If you didn't kill them, there shouldn't be a reward for killing them. Everything else is just mincing useless words.

QFT. Whether skipping the other bosses (if u didn't get the reward for the quest) is a feature or an exploit is another matter.

Sarevok Thordin · Sep 15, 2007, 11:44 AM // 11:44

Fix the bug, Duncan's chest isn't to be given to you or anyone else on a silver platter.

VorianVader · Sep 15, 2007, 12:10 PM // 12:10

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Originally Posted by lord dragon

I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.

I always preferred the Honored Matres over the Bene Gesserit but this was a catchy phrase!

Zunzun · Sep 15, 2007, 12:25 PM // 12:25

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Originally Posted by lord dragon

So, easy answer then. Make it so you can't sell it. LOL (joking)

The ones complaining are the ones that want the high prices.

Please remember...

I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.

I really don't care about prices for thoses items. I used most of the remnants I got on my heroes, and used onyxes to craft weapons.

If prices go down, that's because the items are easy to get. If these items become harder to get, prices will raise, but people selling them won't make more money.

And grinding is actually killing only Duncan without killing the other bosses. Cleaning the whole dungeon is called "playing".

Pwny Ride · Sep 15, 2007, 12:27 PM // 12:27

Well i'm off the abuse this while i can. Toodles.

CHunterX · Sep 15, 2007, 12:28 PM // 12:28

Currently a runner myself, I wouldn't care if they nerfed the ability to be ran to the gate. But honestly, if they testers didn't catch this GIGANTIC loop hole, it almost seems they left it in intentionally. However, if they were to make it that the whole party had to complete the dungeons, very few players would bother. I don't want to see this turn into another DoA. The drops from the chest just aren't good. Last time I actually fought Duncan I got a req. 13 Spear, I shit you not. If they force entire parties to complete it, they better up the rewards for it.

EDIT: I agree, the quest should not credit you with completing the other bosses. Still, running isn't that big of a deal seeing the rewards from that chest.

lord dragon · Sep 15, 2007, 01:04 PM // 13:04

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Originally Posted by CHunterX

Currently a runner myself, I wouldn't care if they nerfed the ability to be ran to the gate. But honestly, if they testers didn't catch this GIGANTIC loop hole, it almost seems they left it in intentionally. However, if they were to make it that the whole party had to complete the dungeons, very few players would bother. I don't want to see this turn into another DoA. The drops from the chest just aren't good. Last time I actually fought Duncan I got a req. 13 Spear, I shit you not. If they force entire parties to complete it, they better up the rewards for it.

EDIT: I agree, the quest should not credit you with completing the other bosses. Still, running isn't that big of a deal seeing the rewards from that chest.

I agree with ya!

Next they are gonna start yelling that the runners to droks is unfair, the runners to consulate docks is unfair.

If someone found a way to do it, great. I have no issue with people getting the stuff they want.

Gwen has enough grind already. No need to add more

Please remember...

I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.

Evilsod · Sep 15, 2007, 02:38 PM // 14:38

What do you mean they'd better up the rewards for it? Skipping to Duncan gives you 3 items from his chest in an incredibly easy fight that an SV hero can win for you ALONE. Compared to Frostmaw this is a godsend, it takes longer than 30-50 minutes to go through Frostmaw (safely) to get 2 items as a reward, 1 of which is always a Diamond if i recall. This chest IS the upped reward.
Get a decent team and go through all 4 areas, takes ~3 hours, not even close to DoA. If that doesn't suit you, go through each seperately when you have the time.

If you call this dungeon a grind then why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO are you even playing GWEN. Max Ebon Vanguard points is a grind, this is a repeatable quest objective with a reasonable reward that NOBODY is making you do. The fact that you BOUGHT GWEN pretty much says you wanted to do dungeons in the first place.

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But honestly, if they testers didn't catch this GIGANTIC loop hole

We ARE the testers! Because the ones they employ do a shit job. Wasn't the duping exploit incredibly similar to exploits in Diablo2 and they missed that.

Uber Mass · Sep 15, 2007, 04:03 PM // 16:03

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Originally Posted by CHunterX

Currently a runner myself, I wouldn't care if they nerfed the ability to be ran to the gate. But honestly, if they testers didn't catch this GIGANTIC loop hole, it almost seems they left it in intentionally. However, if they were to make it that the whole party had to complete the dungeons, very few players would bother. I don't want to see this turn into another DoA. The drops from the chest just aren't good. Last time I actually fought Duncan I got a req. 13 Spear, I shit you not. If they force entire parties to complete it, they better up the rewards for it.

EDIT: I agree, the quest should not credit you with completing the other bosses. Still, running isn't that big of a deal seeing the rewards from that chest.

Players can discover bugs/loopholes also thats why people make these topics. I got shit drops from Deep chest also x100 "i shit you not" its all about luck. The mission has a simmilar build as DoA so the requirments should be equal imho.

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Originally Posted by lord dragon

I agree with ya!

Next they are gonna start yelling that the runners to droks is unfair, the runners to consulate docks is unfair.

If someone found a way to do it, great. I have no issue with people getting the stuff they want.

Gwen has enough grind already. No need to add more

Please remember...

I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.

Running to droks and skipping 3/4th of an elite mission/dungeon is a big difference imho.

Gwen has some "title" grind you choose to do it or not to do it thats your own choice. Doing an elite mission with friends/guildies/pugs doesnt suit as grind in my dictionairy....

Sword Liger · Sep 15, 2007, 04:08 PM // 16:08

It's about time these dungeons dropped some "REAL" money. I honestly don't care. We bought GWEN, Anet screwed us over on most of the "NEW" armour *cough* BS *cough* so I shall class this as a repayment to spend on some worthy armour like fow and a big shiney hammer.