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pkodyssey · Sep 17, 2007, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by bloodvayne

Proof?

You can't give proof, as any image you post I will just say is photoshopped, and it's not like you can show me in-game. I explored everything, even after I got the 100 points I found more to explore, and it still didn't go up by that 101st point, so I don't believe that there are currently 316. Call it my loss if you want, but I don't believe it until there is solid proof.

I NEVER reply to stuff like this, but with the constant spam of negativity, I had to put my thoughts down.

It's always safe to assume that everyone lies and is trying to deceive the community. Just because "you" can't do it, then it can't be done. Talk about arrogance!

How about giving credit where credit is due. Lord Feathers, gratz on getting what others are having difficulty with.

bloodvayne · Sep 17, 2007, 08:59 PM // 20:59

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Originally Posted by pkodyssey

I NEVER reply to stuff like this, but with the constant spam of negativity, I had to put my thoughts down.

It's always safe to assume that everyone lies and is trying to deceive the community. Just because "you" can't do it, then it can't be done. Talk about arrogance!

How about giving credit where credit is due. Lord Feathers, gratz on getting what others are having difficulty with.

Or maybe, just maybe...

I don't want to believe it, because if I do believe it, and it ends up being wrong... I would end up exploring forever, yet not getting anything because that extra 1 point doesn't exist?

I'm not being negative, I'm being smart.

Like I said, I'll gladly change my side of things if/when proof is available

Evilsod · Sep 17, 2007, 09:06 PM // 21:06

How picky is this Cartographer title? As it as picky as the old Cartographers were where you had wall hug every square inch to get what you want.

I'm currently on 306 points... i was first thinking that maybe it just hadn't counted something i did before Gwen or somet, because looking at the map there is no way in hell i've missed 10% of GWEN without wall hugging every square millimetre...

Carinae · Sep 17, 2007, 09:42 PM // 21:42

I'm thinking there's a bug, because I've finished GWEN, done all the quests, edgewalked the whole thing and I have 271 + 4 dungeons left to do. That comes to 311.

I suspect there is a bug with a quest and may possibly have something to do with the preview weekend.

cyber88 · Sep 18, 2007, 01:16 AM // 01:16

Actually, I may know where the 5 points may come from. There is 2 Gwen exclusive quests & 1 of them is only available to prophecies characters. The "Fire & Pain" quest which just need a preserved iris flower or iris flower or tattered cape. This is available to all characters.

However, the "Then & Now, Here & There" is only available to the prophecies characters & the additional conditions are that character must received a tapestry shred from Gwen herself at pre-searing & must pass a tapestry shred to her @ Hall of Monument for that quest.

I am not too sure this could be the "bugged" 5 pts. Hope it helps though.

Matrix · Sep 18, 2007, 01:35 AM // 01:35

I am at 305 at the moment and still have to do one dungeon.
I wall huged every area. So i am not sure why it doesnt let you gus get a full set of points.
Maybe check wiki for quests that give points. As well i dont remeber doing any quests with Iris flowers, maybe i am missing something:S

Carinae · Sep 18, 2007, 01:50 AM // 01:50

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Originally Posted by cyber88

Actually, I may know where the 5 points may come from. There is 2 Gwen exclusive quests & 1 of them is only available to prophecies characters. The "Fire & Pain" quest which just need a preserved iris flower or iris flower or tattered cape. This is available to all characters.

However, the "Then & Now, Here & There" is only available to the prophecies characters & the additional conditions are that character must received a tapestry shred from Gwen herself at pre-searing & must pass a tapestry shred to her @ Hall of Monument for that quest.

I am not too sure this could be the "bugged" 5 pts. Hope it helps though.

Yea, I've already done both, still 5pts short. Thx tho

crazybanshee · Sep 18, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51

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Originally Posted by cyber88

Actually, I may know where the 5 points may come from. There is 2 Gwen exclusive quests & 1 of them is only available to prophecies characters. The "Fire & Pain" quest which just need a preserved iris flower or iris flower or tattered cape. This is available to all characters.

However, the "Then & Now, Here & There" is only available to the prophecies characters & the additional conditions are that character must received a tapestry shred from Gwen herself at pre-searing & must pass a tapestry shred to her @ Hall of Monument for that quest.

I am not too sure this could be the "bugged" 5 pts. Hope it helps though.

although I play a tyrian char, I never did any of the gwen quests in pre because I didn't know about them. I bought a tapestry shred off a guildie who was running them from pre, and I did the quests from the hall of monuments. it would be interesting to see if other chars could buy shreds and do the quests.

cyber88 · Sep 18, 2007, 06:43 AM // 06:43

No problem. It is always good to share infomation.

Meat Axe · Sep 18, 2007, 08:32 AM // 08:32

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Originally Posted by Charge Thunder

I got 304 now but i still need a dungeon so its 314 ectualy... sinds it was 304 i explored allot of pieces... making use of a texture mod i swore not 2 use but i realy couldn't find things to explore anymore i think if i do a bit more i wil get 305... but i still wonder if you can get on the big spike spine like thing in the middle of charr homeland... and what bothers me even more... WTH is it!

As far as I know, you can't get on the spiney thing in the Charr homelands. I think that the maps you've seen with it full uncovered would be maps that have been modified to not have the fog overlay (I'm pretty sure you can pull one out of the .dat file, or use texmod to get rid of the fog or something). As to what it is, no one really knows for sure, but the concept art on the official site for this has something to do with a dragon in the title (at least, that's what it's called in the fansite concept art kit you can download).

Phoenix Tears · Sep 18, 2007, 08:45 AM // 08:45

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Originally Posted by TyrianFury

I have ended up with 315, wall hugged each area. It must be leeway since the only way to max the title track further is by completing the primary quests and dungeons in hardmode.

false ..

316 points is the absolute maximum any player can reach atm.
No one can reach 350 points for R3 in GW:En in the moment, because nothing lets you reach it, Anet has to put in more dungeons or more Quests for this per next Add on or by a FoS like update ... so that the title can be maxed, and who know, if r3 is even max ?
i personally would find this title cheap, when we could max it with 350 lousy points...

I see this as perfect way to introduce some dungeons to into south tyria (proph) and to cantha/elona, what woukld be nice, when al over the world are some dungeon.
through netx add on anet could use this then to give us again new explorable areas and to make certain areas on the old maps that were before untravelalbe > travelable, like they did in GW:EN
then do in again some new PvE only skills and normal/elite skills, which lower a bit the big difference in # of skills for the newer classes (core classes have enough skills per class), or maybe introduce 2 new profs with like 100 start skills each.

However, it brings nothign to discuss in the moment about master of the north title, because its atm simple unmaxable, you can all read this in the official Guil Wiki

PS: GW:EN has/gets no hardmode, because GW:EN is still like hardmode .... or what want you see, that monsters in GW:En get even more tougher ? thta you have to fight vs. hundreds of lvl 35+ monsters, where destroyers get like certain monsters of the underworld > unbeatable, unti u kill something special, or that they can double themself, short before they die or that more come, when you kill them ike the big titans ?
that dungeons have then no rezz shrines anymore and that rezz skills wont work in dungeons in HM ?
guy, please think first on, that casural players want to play GW:En too, and not only the absolute hardcore freaks, with love to get perma instant full party wiped -.-

mcsumo · Sep 18, 2007, 09:00 AM // 09:00

Phoenix, I like your thought of more content coming our way. It is something I have been thinking about since finishing the game so quickly. But some of your ideas are plain wrong.

We already know that there are no new classes coming and we were told from the start that not many new PvP usable skills were coming. It is all to do with the current business model making everything too bloated and hard to balance.

Oh and there is a thread somewhere, in which Gaile has confirmed hard mode is coming to GWEN.

Phoenix Tears · Sep 18, 2007, 09:34 AM // 09:34

hmm, can you link me this thread ?
i would love to know, what we can really expect from the GW:EN HM, when GW:EN is still like HM of the 3 campaign's HM.

I personally don't want to see, how more unbalanced this in HM for GW:EN should become, when mosnter groups get even more bigger, mosnter levels get even more unfairer vs us. that we stay ever at stupid max of 20, where i would see for fairness finally a rise of to at least max lvl 25 to get in a bit more balance again, when we would have to fight then vs. enemies that are far beyound the strength of lvl 30 bosses.

HM for GW:En would be only a big kick into the ass for casual players, which would be forced to play with other players, becasue with H/H you can still forget like 75% of the dungeons in "NM" of GW:EN, because H/H is simple too weak for GW:En or the AI is as ever simple too dumb ...
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about content for me personally is sure, that there wil follow something, look only on the tyria map, do you find those 2 big ugly black sides nice?
When i want to look on a world map, then i want so see everything and not such 2 huge black holes.
on the right for for example is space for a NF Add on and on the left maybe then a FA Add on, which will bring in maybe some new continents ...
The wrold of GW could have still some continents more

Cantha > Asia
Elona > Africa
Tyria/Kryta > Europe/Greenland

We've nothing for North/South America, nothing for Australia and nothing for the Antarctic/Arctic, would be 3-4 new continents/campaigns to make our world complete. i pesonall< would love, when next continents would receive some names, that end not with "a", what could also be some new professions.
But i think alos, that most new stuff will surely come with GW2

freekedoutfish · Sep 18, 2007, 11:38 AM // 11:38

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Originally Posted by Exoudeous

you only get points for completeing something once, which is why every other post in this topic says you can only get 315-316 points now

Do you? I was under the impression you got points again (but less) for redoing dungeons. My mistakes.

Charge Thunder · Sep 18, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11

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Originally Posted by Meat Axe

As far as I know, you can't get on the spiney thing in the Charr homelands. I think that the maps you've seen with it full uncovered would be maps that have been modified to not have the fog overlay (I'm pretty sure you can pull one out of the .dat file, or use texmod to get rid of the fog or something). As to what it is, no one really knows for sure, but the concept art on the official site for this has something to do with a dragon in the title (at least, that's what it's called in the fansite concept art kit you can download).

ok then i guess that is what i saw...

for the one asking about how picky it is... its the same as other chapters... i compare it to tyria an cantha... but there is less area so less scapping but it is realy picky you need to stand on spots and turn a few time before it unfogs!

puffzilla · Sep 18, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34

If you noticed wiki and gw had the title at a rank 5 or 6 with like 750 points.

I'm guessing that since there's no specific vanq or quardian title track that we'll have to vanq and do all the dungeons in hm to finish off that title track

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thunderai · Sep 18, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02

I currenthly have 296 points or so. I have every dungeon but Slavers completed and my maps looks pretty complete.

So my question is:

Does exploring in dungeons count towards these points. I know completing them does but does unvocovering every last hidden part count?

Terra Xin · Sep 19, 2007, 02:06 AM // 02:06

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Originally Posted by bloodvayne

Or maybe, just maybe...

I don't want to believe it, because if I do believe it, and it ends up being wrong... I would end up exploring forever, yet not getting anything because that extra 1 point doesn't exist?

I'm not being negative, I'm being smart.

Like I said, I'll gladly change my side of things if/when proof is available

Smart? So you have proof that getting 316 is not possible? Let's just see your screenie that you have 315 along with every relevant screenshot that you have explored every area... oh no wait, that could be done with photoshop!! You can't prove that people are wrong just because you refuse their proof to be right.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Talk:... r_exploration

If you're still not convinced then don't worry, 315 is a good achievement *cough* nah j/k.

bloodvayne · Sep 19, 2007, 02:13 AM // 02:13

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Originally Posted by Terra Xin

Smart? So you have proof that getting 316 is not possible? Let's just see your screenie that you have 315 along with every relevant screenshot that you have explored every area... oh no wait, that could be done with photoshop!! You can't prove that people are wrong just because you refuse their proof to be right.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Talk:... r_exploration

If you're still not convinced then don't worry, 315 is a good achievement *cough* nah j/k.

Lol, did I say I was right?
Just like you can believe the 316 people if you want to, you can believe me if you want to.
I'm not trying to influence anyone's choice, just speaking what choice I'm making, and that choice is to not believe that it's possible to get 316 as there is no proof. I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong, just saying there is no proof that they're right.

Brega · Sep 19, 2007, 07:45 AM // 07:45

well here is my proof. One other person in my guild also has 316pts on this title. Wether or not you choose to believe is up to you.