Curse

Carboplatin · Sep 18, 2007, 04:36 AM // 04:36

Other then the number of drops and the Greens that drop out of them, are the gold items that CAN drop from the dungeon chests all the same?

I've being doing a few dungeons lately and this particular dungeon, i've ran it about 20 times, cave me 15 caster items, 1 gold shield, 1 green, 2 onyx and 1 diamond.

so are all the dungeons chests the same or are some better then others? Will rare items such like saurians, pyoclastics, runics only drop in "elite" dungeon chests? i don't want to farm a dungeons that will never drop a certain skin.

anyone notice any patterns?

Lord Natural · Sep 18, 2007, 05:05 AM // 05:05

The pattern I've been noticing is that I get a useless wand from the chests 100% of the time.

Sergeant of Marines · Sep 18, 2007, 06:10 AM // 06:10

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Originally Posted by Lord Natural

The pattern I've been noticing is that I get a useless wand from the chests 100% of the time.

QFT, seems you and I are in the same boat!

bungusmaximus · Sep 18, 2007, 06:29 AM // 06:29

Hmm, help me on this one, if one chest drops a req 13 purple inspiration wand of pruning and the other chest drops a req 13 divine favor purple monk staff are they equal then?

I would say they both equally suck :P

trielementz · Sep 18, 2007, 06:39 AM // 06:39

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Hmm, help me on this one, if one chest drops a req 13 purple inspiration wand of pruning and the other chest drops a req 13 divine favor purple monk staff are they equal then?

I would say they both equally suck :P

nah. pruning rocks. u deal ~3 damage more to those frisky aloes when you wand them.

where'd u get it from?

Melkorium · Sep 18, 2007, 08:47 AM // 08:47

I got a Runic Blade from Bloodstone chest (it was Req 13 though, still looks neat on my mesmer with the rose focus). I consider Bloodstone one of the easiest dungeons so i don't think the rare skins are restricted toe elite areas.

Phoenix Tears · Sep 18, 2007, 09:04 AM // 09:04

drops in GW:En are simple not worth to be called "high end"
GW:EN disappoints in that point massively imo, i expected to see in dungeon chests only maxed gold items which have a req standart of 7-10, then it would be imo high end items and under these also green items with some nice special new skins, maybe some under them animated.

but what do we get ? purple useless shit, gold items that can be even not max damage and shit that has a req. of 13 ?, Come on, such shit is not "high end", this shit ends only as "high garbage"

Then such drops like 1 Diamond or 1 Onyx, imo a bit cheap, when there would drop more of them per player, it would be at least logical.
Look at the dungeon cheast, how big it is and then there comes out 1 small Diamond ? i please u, that sucks.

me personally interests in the moment, how big the drop chances are for the golden polymock figures ?

or i've got once dropped 1 piece of alcohol and a snowman maker in the snowman dungeon, wow, thats really valuable shit, and only 1 ea.

Anet is really very tight-fisted in kind of drops, why has everything valuable ever to be only 1, where the player could really expect to get a bit more from the things

bungusmaximus · Sep 18, 2007, 09:14 AM // 09:14

Yup, for 1.5k a lockpick I expect more then a purple req13 spawning power PWNER of Suckage. Usually I get useful hero weapons out of chests, but even my heroes bitch-slap me and go on strike until they get better gear. Back to TOPK then :P

anshin · Sep 18, 2007, 09:42 AM // 09:42

i got a Tall Shield req 13 tactics +27hp from Frostmaw's, besides the diamond...

i don't actually think there are better chests... i just think there are VERY unlucky people who God simply thinks: "If this guy is that unlucky maybe a bit more of unluckyness might do the trick for him." (that's me btw)

good luck on the other chests... as my boss says: "You're condemned to success!"...

RTSFirebat · Sep 18, 2007, 09:56 AM // 09:56

I've had some nice drops from Dungeon chests, and yes some Dungeons drop worst stuff then others. Still that is the name of the game, its all about luck.

Cebe · Sep 18, 2007, 10:03 AM // 10:03

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Yup, for 1.5k a lockpick I expect more then a purple req13 spawning power PWNER of Suckage.

COOL! Was it a Max Damage PWNER of Suckage? All I've been getting are non-max ones. Oh well, I keep telling myself it's "lvl 20 content"...maybe one day I'll believe it.

bungusmaximus · Sep 18, 2007, 10:06 AM // 10:06

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Originally Posted by anshin

i got a Tall Shield req 13 tactics +27hp from Frostmaw's, besides the diamond...

i don't actually think there are better chests... i just think there are VERY unlucky people who God simply thinks: "If this guy is that unlucky maybe a bit more of unluckyness might do the trick for him." (that's me btw)

good luck on the other chests... as my boss says: "You're condemned to success!"...

Hmm not just chance, Doing TOPK on normal mode yields much better rewards then clearing Frostmaws Burrow, which takes longer and is harder imo.

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

COOL! Was it a Max Damage PWNER of Suckage? All I've been getting are non-max ones. Oh well, I keep telling myself it's "lvl 20 content"...maybe one day I'll believe it.

It was max yes, now don't tell me I have to consider myself extraordinary lucky :P

SotiCoto · Sep 18, 2007, 11:35 AM // 11:35

Shards of Orr chest....
It provided me with One Diamond.... for the week or whatnot that I was hopelessly trying to fight my way through it.... When I eventually made it through I was rewarded with one measly diamond.

NEVER again.

tyche7 · Sep 18, 2007, 01:05 PM // 13:05

I am and have been THOROUGHLY disappointed myself with ALL drops - from dungeon chests, from locked chests, and in general ALL drops in GWEN. I get better drops playing nightfall's low end areas than I do in GWEN. So I don't have THAT bad of luck because I get decent items there. It's just in GWEN I get crap 99.99999% of the time. Regardless of whether it's an elite area/dungeon or just a drop. They need to fix this if they're going to hold people's interest. Personally one of the reasons I played nightfall so long was b/c the rewards you get periodically from playing it. I felt like I accomplished something by getting X item, etc. I don't feel that way in GWEN. I feel more like it's a grind-fest with VERY LITTLE reward. I got ALL of my characters through nightfall (mind you I have about 15)...I don't know if I'm going to do more than 2 in GWEN. *sigh*

HayesA · Sep 18, 2007, 01:11 PM // 13:11

Man, you guys must have been really unlucky. I've got greens, q9 Runic Blades, q10 Ele Swords, Onyx Gemstones, Diamonds.... etc etc etc.

Xitoahc · Sep 18, 2007, 01:12 PM // 13:12

Gah. I'll just quote what I said on another forum on a related topic:

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While Duncan is now properly "balanced", the incentive to try out many of the other dungeons is actually very low, unless purely for fun.

Let's take a look at the dungeons:

Key:/ = or

Cathedral of Flames:
Incentive: Diessa Chalice- The only way to get these for the Blindfold headgear.

Frostmaw's Burrows:
Incentive: Diamonds- Guaranteed Diamond drop + either a Rare Item/Unique Item/Diamond/Onyx/Polymock piece.

Fronis Irontoe's Lair:
Incentive: Dwarven Ale/Aged Dwarven Ale- Quick/Fun way to get these ales to expand on Drunkard title/PvE-Skill use without resorting to buy either.

Secret Lair of the Snowmen:
Incentive: Best place to farm Dwarven reputation points, and a nice chance at Candy Canes and Spiked Eggnog.

Slavers' Exile:
Incentive: Four Chests of the Slaver. Each giving a chance for Diamond/Onyx or Rare Item/Unique Item. And the final Hierophant's Chest with a guaranteed Onyx and Deldrimor Armor Remnant + a Rare item/Unique Item/Polymock piece/Diamond/Onyx.

The rest:

-Catacombs of Kathandrax
-Rragar's Menagerie
-Ooze Pit
-Darkrime Delves
-Sepulchre of Dragrimmar
-Raven's Point
-Vloxen Excavations
-Bogroot Growths
-Bloodstone Caves
-Shards of Orr
-Oola's Lab
-Arachni's Haunt
-Heart of the Shiverpeaks

Only Incentive: A chance at a Random rare item or Polymock piece or Unique Item or Onyx or Diamond from the chest at end.

5/18 Dungeons give a rather profitable incentive and are worth the time, while 13/18 are not truly worth the time unless you're only after the Unique at the end and even then the chance at the Unique is low because its a 1/5 chance. And even then even the Unique's lack in original skin, even Duncan's Unqiues are basically just a random Rare Item dyed black. If they had given more thought to each, and gave each dungeon at least one original skin, as seen in other campaign "dungeons" like Urgoz Warren's: Urgoz Longbow or The Deep's: Kanaxai's Axe, it would of given a greater incentive to do each. As it is now, the only GW:EN dungeon that will let you walk out with your pockets feeling full is still and only Slavers' Exile.

darktyco · Sep 18, 2007, 01:27 PM // 13:27

My first dungeon boss chest (the excavations) dropped an Onyx gemstone... sweet!

But the 6 other boss chests I have opened since then have just dropped either diamonds or crappy golds

ChoKILLate[FDG] · Sep 18, 2007, 01:54 PM // 13:54

The poster was talking about dungeon chests...not locked chests.

and Xitoahc answered it perfectly! You will always get max damage if a gold drops, but the drop is random. One dungeon will not drop a higher percentage of swords/axes...etc.

Pompeyfan · Sep 18, 2007, 02:28 PM // 14:28

I don't buy this some people are lucky/unlucky thing - from what I can see it appears as if some people are just earmarked for the good stuff whatever and others aren't - if it were down to 'luck' or totally random it should even out over time, but it dosen't.

So far in GW:EN I've done nearly every quest, filled the hero book, and done 19/20 in the dungeon book - yet I've not had a single green drop or a decent gold for that matter and I've given up on locked chests as I had 48 purples and 4 golds from 52 chests opened and of the golds they're nearly always for paragon, mesmer, ritualist, monk or assassin - all the 5 professions I don't play and invaribaly req 12 or 13, and none max so only merchant material.

In the 27 month's I've been playing GW in which I've completed all 4 campaigns - 3 of them with 5 different characters I've yet to see a white dye, only had 5 blacks drop and had zero hign-end max weapons drop. The best the new hidden chests in GW:EN dungeons have produced is 2 monster claws with the rest just a few gold coins. My last FoW trip saw 7 of the party members get gold drops and 5-6 shards each yet none for my character, and in all my UW trips, my ranger has never had an ecto drop ever.

Yet, I've been in parties where others get lets of good drops and it's usually the same players who get them. Npw I could understand if my drops were poor due to farming and constantly re-doing areas, but I don't farm at all (too boring) and just do missions and quests usually in a party.

Carboplatin · Sep 18, 2007, 02:39 PM // 14:39

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Originally Posted by ChoKILLate[FDG]

The poster was talking about dungeon chests...not locked chests.

and Xitoahc answered it perfectly! You will always get max damage if a gold drops, but the drop is random. One dungeon will not drop a higher percentage of swords/axes...etc.

yes i am not talking about locked chests. we all know locked chests are not worth it. I am talking about END OF DUNGEON CHESTS.

so the end of dungeon chest for slavers = end of any other dungeon chest of much much easier dungeons. except the greens and # of drops.