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Old Sep 14, 2007, 02:28 PM // 14:28   #21
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I perfer 20/20 wand + 20/20 offhand focus or Engery +15/-1 Pip engery regen. It's not a bad green, just not my perfernce.

(The 20/20 wand can be crafted in factions for 5p)

I am a bit surprised at what skin they chose, considering how common that skin is.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 02:48 PM // 14:48   #22
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You forgot a few...

Koosun's Fire Staff has the bog standard fire staff skin but is green (ho ho) and can't be dyed

Amadis' Air Staff ... standard air staff skin

Galigord's Stone Staff... oh wth, I can't be bothered...


Here's a thought... why is it I can't dye my Wayward Wand, yet I can dye my Straw Effigy (endgame, not drop). Both are greens but only one dyes? And why is it I can dye that effigy which is a green... yet I can't dye my nice gold storm artifact ???

Ho hum.
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 12:10 AM // 00:10   #23
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What's a skin? No seriously, I don't understand why people care about the skin of their equipment. Unless it is something that will cause lasting damage looking at it, it's fine for me. I've never understood paying more for looks alone, either.
Well... there are people whom are like you, value items on it's actual "usage", rather then the item's appearences!

But yet, you have to understand, we're living in a world which often judge stuff on it's appearence. That's just the part of our human-nature. Hence I assume it's not hard to understand why people care about their In-game virtual item's appearences eh? *Especially a RPG online game where people can show off their unique weapon, armors etc.*

Its simple, and you can't say any of them are wrong, it's just how every people having different preferences.

P.S: Oh about the new skin weapon.... I agree with the topic, a lot of green in GWEN are re-skin and I'm upset with it. The only 2 ele green staff I like are Lord Glacious Staff and Eisnil's Fridgeheart, they both have new Icicle Weapon skin with different color shade! Oh and... not just Ele have bad green skin, Mesmer in Illusion side got bad looking weapon..... Most good or rare-design weapons are not greens, they're rare weapon whom rarely drop in dungeon or chests in GWEN.

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Old Sep 15, 2007, 03:22 AM // 03:22   #24
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Simple Rule of Thumb.

Buy Greens for Affordable stats
Buy Golds for cool skins and variable stats.

I think giving Greens rare skins (Cough, Murakai's Reaver, Cough) sort of insults the players that farmed so hard for that skin. But There ARE other fire wands out there with better stats:

Hajkor's Flame (Semi Cool Skin, sweet Stats)
Golden Boar Wand (Cool Skin, nice Stats)
Wayward Wand (O.K. skin, nice stats)

I'm not going to list all the fire wands and thier skins in this game...

Seriously, bitch about one green wand and the fact that it's a reskin. I have news for you, buddy, About 7/8's of EoTN is Reskinning. Monsters, Some weapons, Armors, greens, not many new things to see.


And it's not just elementalists... you'll find that there are OTHER greens that use the same skins as common weapons....
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 04:11 AM // 04:11   #25
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I'm confused, I like the skin, personally. OK, so its common as hell... so!? Just because it drops like water, and can be crafted/exchanged from collector doesn't make the skin any less cool.

Remember, how 'cool' a skin is = entirely subjective.


Though I agree with the stats being crap. Meh. Hero food, IMO.
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 10:56 AM // 10:56   #26
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Do you really have to make 1 thread for every new complain you have about gwen? :/
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 01:10 PM // 13:10   #27
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If I didnt tell you that fire wand was a green called 'Lok's Sceptor' you would think I was just holding a normal, average, boring Tyrian fire wand! Why? because Anet went to all the trouble of re-using one of the most bog-standard skins in the entire game on a GWEN green!

If that doesnt reach the bottom of the barrel I really dont know what does! We already! I would now like to point your attention to guildwiki..

Fire wand
Lok's sceptor
Rago's flame wand

Frost Artifact
Flint's artifact

...see any similarities? Does Anet really hate elementals?

I accept that elementals do have alot of nice greens ingame, throughout all the campaigns, but why do they have to throw in these duds? That was my first green drop in GWEN and I was excited until I looked at and read its stats!

You should be able to spot a green weapon a mile off and know whether a person is using one!
Correct me if I am mistaken please.

But weren't you the one that said that the weapons were great, the armor was good, there wasn't grind in GWEN, ect?

Just wanted to make sure that we are talking about the same game.

This weapon is no worse then the rest. If you are gonna change one, you might as well change the rest.

While doing that, why not actually make armors?

Why not eliminate the need to grind?

Oh yeah, that would eliminate the WHOLE EXPANSION!

Please remember...

I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32   #28
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Some greens will (and do) have pointless mod combinations/skins. This has been a fact ever since the green was introduced. Anet didn't even have to introduce these, they chose to. Whine if you want, but you look pretty silly to me, whining about (sometimes) useless vanity items that most people don't give their left ear about.
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 02:36 PM // 14:36   #29
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Correct me if I am mistaken please.

But weren't you the one that said that the weapons were great, the armor was good, there wasn't grind in GWEN, ect?

Just wanted to make sure that we are talking about the same game.

This weapon is no worse then the rest. If you are gonna change one, you might as well change the rest.

While doing that, why not actually make armors?

Why not eliminate the need to grind?

Oh yeah, that would eliminate the WHOLE EXPANSION!

Please remember...

I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
Lord when did I ever say I thought the weapons and armor were great? I've never once (until now) commented on the weapons, and I do think the armor is all re-hashes. How ever the one you see me wearing has grown on me!

But ive never once stated when you say I have! Either way, how does that have any baring on my view about grind in GWEN?

I also never said there wasnt any grind, there is. My entire point was that the grind in GWEN and the rest of the game is not critical to gameplay and its optional! There is nothing ingame that you have to grind for, which is critical to gameplay and which you cant complete the game without.

Grind for elite armor, elite weapons, titles and ranks are all purely optional and do not effect whether you can or cannot play any aspectsof the game...

We have 1.5k armor for those who dont want to grind for elite armor.
We have weapon crafters who dont want to grind for greens or endgame weapons.
You dont need to use or have maxed out pve only skills to complete the game or play elite zones.
You dont need higher ranks in any titles to complete any part of the game.
You dont need huge amounts of gold to play the game.
You dont need 100% exploration to play the game.
You dont need protector or guardian to play the game.
You dont even need to complete all the mission or quests in some campaigns.

If a person chooses to grind those things to either look nice, or benefit themselves in some way then great. They can choose to do that! But no one if forcing them or holding a gun to their head! If they choose to grind to prolong the gameplay the great too, if they choose to stop playing because they dont like grind then fine!

All grind is optional and the game can be done without it! Look, Im not getting to this grind arguement again! Thats why I left those other two threads, so dont drag it into this one.

End of the arguement about grind in here!!

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Old Sep 15, 2007, 02:55 PM // 14:55   #30
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QQ.

Just stop ranting about Guild Wars and go enjoy the good parts.

One thing: They need to do something with the reskins.

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Old Sep 15, 2007, 05:09 PM // 17:09   #31
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Does Anet really hate elementals?
No, they really hate doing any more work than they have to to get your money.

Which, incidentally, includes designing new models for equipment.
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14   #32
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onoez itz a baed skin!!!11

Does the skin effect the way it is used? No.

You really need to stop complaining about everything in GWEN. At least complain about something that's worth complaining about, not the skin of a green.
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22   #33
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onoez itz a baed skin!!!11

Does the skin effect the way it is used? No.

You really need to stop complaining about everything in GWEN. At least complain about something that's worth complaining about, not the skin of a green.
Entirely agree.

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Lok's sceptor...

HSR 20%
+5 energy while enchated!

...its not even worth worshiping on its stats alone! The re-skin just makes that 100 times worse. Im honestly trying to get into the mind-frame of Anet and their design team and think "why should I add a weapon with an old skin and crap stats?", and I cant think of a reason why it was added!
Who worships a skin more or less the stats?
LIKE OMG! OGM! OMG! TEH PIXELS! *FAP*FAP*FAP*

Hmmm... a wand requiring 9 Fire, thus a wand for a fire ele.
Fire eles use Fire Magic to do their hard hitting work.
20% HSR on Fire Magic.
Occasional skill recovery on long recharges.... hmm. Yeah that's awful.
Ele's use Attunement.
Attunement is an enchantment.
Enchantment guarantees +5e without penalty.... hmmm. Yeah that's terrible too.

Yes, I have seen better and worse. It's not like the thing is +5v50 with 20% HSR Strength or AL +7 while hexed.

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Old Sep 15, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16   #34
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Nice.

Looks just like the collector Fire Wand I gave Zhed.... except Zhed's is better as it has 20/20 casting and recharge.

That green = fail.
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 07:34 AM // 07:34   #35
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theres nothing wrong with the stats at all, the stats on loks are the best stats you can get on a wand.... skin sucks, but thats all. dont complain.
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 07:59 AM // 07:59   #36
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That wand has perfect stats. A collector's blue would require you to spend extra platinum so you can get perfect mods...so even though the skin is very common, the wand your elementalist is wielding has excellent power. If you want vanity, I suggest you go for the destroyer wands or perhaps look into getting a perfect wand with another skin you can really enjoy.
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 11:32 AM // 11:32   #37
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Ya, im thinking of getting a different wand and focus cause rago's wand and the kindlerock just look so ordinary....
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 11:56 AM // 11:56   #38
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I play the following card:



And with that said and done with do we need a old complaint thread bumped up??? Why did you do it? lol

The wand has great stats, sure its a old skin, but do anyone really care?
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 12:37 PM // 12:37   #39
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You should kill yourself over it. It'd be funny.
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 12:45 PM // 12:45   #40
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Meh, it's a reskin but whatcha' gonna do?
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