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Old Oct 26, 2007, 09:19 AM // 09:19   #1
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Default Probleme to achieve cantha guardian title (shiro)

Hi ,
After complete the prophecies guardian title and before go to elona im actually trying to complete cantha.
but i have lot of trouble with shiro who i have killed whithout any problem in normal mode.
We are 2 humans(Necro and monk) players and 6 henchies/heros , do you have some tips to achieve this mission?

I've tested with 2 necros (SS+IS and SV) one mesmer with empathy and grenth balance and the rest in henchies (Warrior and ele)
But no résults :/
the probleme is the banishing and meditation of the reaper which heal him completely and kill all my team.
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Old Oct 26, 2007, 09:51 AM // 09:51   #2
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Use Henchmen instead of Heros. They recieve celestial skills (although they can also be banished).

I was Ranger, and found skills such as Symbosis and Fertile Season relly help keeping you alive while it had little effect on Shiro (his HP is high enough that it doesnt really make a diff). We also had a lot of warriors in the team as thier Celesital skill (forget the name) tears through Shiro like nothing lol

It should be possible to do it with 1 monk, we managed it it with one henchie monk (there were only 2 of us as well, an ele and a ranger), but we were going for masters and the fastest time so maybe 2 monks would be a safer option?

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Old Oct 26, 2007, 09:59 AM // 09:59   #3
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If you have 2 real players use all heroes and spread them out by flagging them so he can't hit everyone at once. The ones with lowest health will get banished, so plan accordingly. 2 Necro (SS + SV), 2 Ele, 1 Monk, 1 Warrior ( to keep aggro on shiro). Necros use SS or SV & Insidious parasite and Reckless Haste to quickly degen himself to death. Ele's use high damage and wards.
When we used this build Dunkoro got banished and Shiro was dead before he came back.
HTH
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Old Oct 26, 2007, 10:03 AM // 10:03   #4
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I wouldn bother with the heros.

The celestial skills are so overpowered its worth bringing henchies.
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Old Oct 26, 2007, 12:43 PM // 12:43   #5
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THe henchmen don't use thier celestial skills intelligently and some don't seem to use them at all. I'd reccomend using SPoil Victor and Spiteful Spirit to wear him down, using your celestial skills and hero damage dealers to break meditation and once he gets to about 1/3 health, use Pain Inverter. He'll activate IO and pop himself. Your heroes will not return to battle on thier own. If you feel like you need them you must kill the Bound spirit that comes, this also recharges your skills.
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Old Oct 26, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34   #6
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They did for me :/ On HM Masters lol

Also im nearly sure your Heros dont get banished? So that shouldn be a worry.

On a side note to this, if your finding your having trouble with being Banished yourself, the skill that Shiro uses is a Shout, so technically Vocal Minority could be used to prevent Shiro from using it.

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Old Oct 26, 2007, 01:46 PM // 13:46   #7
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Default shiro mission in factiosn in hardmode!

shiro is not that har it might take a few attempts tp tweak the right builds to beat him, i did it with me as a BHA/interupt ranger, i had koss, Jora and zemai(heroes) koss and jora were set up as riposte warriors, zemai was setup as vigourous sin with death blossom/moebuis strike combo,and i used the necro henchie, monk henchie, and cant remember last henchie, i think mesmer, took me like 3 trys and i got it.
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Old Oct 26, 2007, 05:57 PM // 17:57   #8
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I have finally achieved to beat Shiro in HM my composition :
Me (Monk/N with Spoil Victor and Awakanen the blood)
friend (N/ with SS + IS)
One hero monk (classic LoD hybrid)
And henchies (Domination, blood, warrior , earth ele)

Thanks for yours advices
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Old Oct 26, 2007, 06:40 PM // 18:40   #9
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My ele sometimes hangs around sanctum and helps people.

Arcane echo, echo, celestial storm, echo, celestial storm, celestial storm

Kill banished thing for morale boost

celestial storm, celestial storm, celestial storm.

Dead in about a minute, normal or hard mode.

EDIT: Handy to take deep freeze so he doesn't move as much
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Old Oct 27, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20   #10
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Use 3 heroes and 4 hench.

Each hero only needs 4 skills on their bar...
1 Echo SS Necro w/ rez sig and signet of lost souls
1 Echo SV Necro w/ rez sig and signet of lost souls
1 Echo Ineptitude Mes w/rez sig

2 Warrior hench
1 Ranger hench
1...your choice, dont need another monk but its your choice

Echo the SS / SV / Ineptitude, watch as he kills himself quickly

Dont need real people :P

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Old Oct 27, 2007, 05:26 PM // 17:26   #11
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Originally Posted by Ghryphon
Use 3 heroes and 4 hench.

Each hero only needs 4 skills on their bar...
1 Echo SS Necro w/ rez sig and signet of lost souls
1 Echo SV Necro w/ rez sig and signet of lost souls
1 Echo Ineptitude Mes w/rez sig

2 Warrior hench
1 Ranger hench
1...your choice, dont need another monk but its your choice

Echo the SS / SV / Ineptitude, watch as he kills himself quickly

Dont need real people :P

-Tiki
Wow, thanks for that. I took Rt henchie and on my ele all I used was Empathy, Echo, Pain Inverter, and Celestial Storm. He was dead in about 30 seconds.
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Old Oct 27, 2007, 05:33 PM // 17:33   #12
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Quote:
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Wow, thanks for that. I took Rt henchie and on my ele all I used was Empathy, Echo, Pain Inverter, and Celestial Storm. He was dead in about 30 seconds.
Your welcome And I didnt mention pain inverter since I didnt have EoTN when I did it, but good add on to deal more! Thanks.

Cheers,
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Old Oct 27, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42   #13
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for more fun use arcane echo -> echo -> celestial storm -> echo (from arcane echo) -> celestial storm (from echo) -> celestial storm (from arcane echo). Target the shiro'ken that's summoned from one of your hench getting banished -> glyph of sacrifice -> meteor shower. Killing the summoned Shiro'ken will give you a morale boost and refresh your skills including those 3 copies of celesital storm you have...guess who you use them on?
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