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Old Apr 25, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39   #241
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im finding it harder and harder to get to the forest, i keep dieing at the skeletal/shadow mesmer and ele bit :/ before i would get there 90% now ive tried about 6 times and not got there once
that does suck... especially since your investment of 1k is down the drain
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Old Apr 26, 2006, 11:02 PM // 23:02   #242
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I have to echo kicks66's impression... But that may be just hasard. Does someone have a different feeling about it?
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Old Apr 27, 2006, 12:31 AM // 00:31   #243
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What is making them hard to run through? They tend to spawn in different positions each time, some which make it really difficult to run through and some really easy.

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Old Apr 27, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41   #244
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Just keep at it, eventually you will master pulling back the skellies into the shadow army for all the different spawns.

Also have patience.. Let them move into a good position before you start, don't just rush in. Keep at it, it might take you 5 mins more, but if you take care to back away at the smallest sign of trouble you will be alright.. Unless that trouble is a deep freeze of course

That said, sometimes you do get completely impossible spawns, though I find that rare.
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Old Apr 27, 2006, 01:14 AM // 01:14   #245
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sometimes if you can run past only the shadow army and stop to heal, you can lose about 240-250 hp by just tanking out the skeles.

Their main sources of damage are from E-surge (80), Deep Freeze (64ish), Shatter Enchantment (no enchants to shatter), Cry of Frustration (don't stop to Troll), and wanding.
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Old Apr 27, 2006, 01:46 AM // 01:46   #246
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sometimes if you can run past only the shadow army and stop to heal, you can lose about 240-250 hp by just tanking out the skeles.

Their main sources of damage are from E-surge (80), Deep Freeze (64ish), Shatter Enchantment (no enchants to shatter), Cry of Frustration (don't stop to Troll), and wanding.
Cry of Frustration: If target foe is using a skill, that foe and all foes in the area are interrupted and suffer 10...37 damage.

Troll Unguent: Skill. For 10 seconds, you gain health regeneration of +3...9.

I'm pretty sure CoF gets troll...and they also have maelstorm if you just happened to be standing still for no apparent reason. The elementalists never break aggro on me even when they're being Cof'd and e-surged. This ele group has costed me far too many plats.

I run in there with TU, get in range of skele group, TU again (now at like 2xx hp) shoot an arrow, run back, try to troll again, and if I get the troll off without incendiary bonds/fireballs going off, I have made the run. Usually it turns out with me on the floor but there's still satisfaction in watching my killers get raped by skeletons.
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Old Apr 28, 2006, 12:20 PM // 12:20   #247
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Well, heres is what I use.

Distracting shot
Dual shot
Poison arrow
Kindle arrows
Troll ungent
Storm chaser
Physical Protection
Favorable Winds

Expertise: 9+1
Wilderness: 11+1
Marksmanship: 10+1+1
Inspiration: 4 (or 3.. can't remember..)

I'm sure most of the skills have been mentioned here before, but not sure about the attribute points. Plus I'm way too lazy to re-read the entire 13 page thread

I'm sure that by going with less wilderness I'm killing sheperds and spirit woods slower, but with 12 into marksmanship, spiders are going down much faster.

As most here, I'm having a very tough time getting into chest run groups now... And have yet to see those 3+ shard runs... I'm still hopefull though!
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Old Apr 28, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41   #248
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You can always just stand and watch the skeleton group. If they're close enough you can guarantee there wanderings will eventually bring them into a brawl. Occasionally you can run straight past the shadows and down the side of the skeletons without having to draw agro at all.

Pulling them is a bitch though, normally ends up getting me very nearly killed, usually though if you agro the skels then run back instantly they don't follow you, but then after you've healed if you come close enough they run forwards anyway and run straight into the shadows and start fighting.
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Old Apr 28, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18   #249
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That was an odd run... 3 shards before i even got past the first lot of spiders, then 2 red dyes till the next group of spiders. Then due to shitty positioning all 3 shepherds in the next group spiked me without moving...

The nerf on Dual Shot is really getting annoying, it use to recharge perfectly with Savage Shot, now its just irritating.
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Old Apr 28, 2006, 11:03 PM // 23:03   #250
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Anyone else run into the glitch where shepards are actually farther/closer then their visual forms show? Too many times i've been killed when i think i'm really out of cast range, but magically, they're closer..
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Old Apr 28, 2006, 11:34 PM // 23:34   #251
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Anyone else run into the glitch where shepards are actually farther/closer then their visual forms show? Too many times i've been killed when i think i'm really out of cast range, but magically, they're closer..
I see that sometimes too. Not just with the Forest run, but against spiders on the beach too.
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Old Apr 28, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44   #252
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Well i knew flatbows had a long range, but thats just ridiculous. This always seems to happen with this group too.
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 02:15 PM // 14:15   #253
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It's just a positioning glitch. Happens all the time in there *shrug*
and why aren't you playing Factions? lol
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 04:19 PM // 16:19   #254
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Trying to save up for FoW armor for Factions chars mebbe? o.o
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 04:47 PM // 16:47   #255
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Cos Factions is the suxxor

That and i don't have the money spare to buy it.
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Old Apr 30, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58   #256
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Nice Vids and guide. Will definately use.
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Old May 01, 2006, 01:45 AM // 01:45   #257
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and why aren't you playing Factions? lol
Not everyone wants to buy it.
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Old May 01, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41   #258
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); sometimes i wish i hadn't bought factions. there's too much new stuff to learn and master
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Old May 01, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00   #259
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); sometimes i wish i hadn't bought factions. there's too much new stuff to learn and master
lmao tell me about it... i'm walking around place to place having no idea where i'm going or what i'm supposed to do... but it's soo much fun
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Old May 01, 2006, 10:29 PM // 22:29   #260
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lmao tell me about it... i'm walking around place to place having no idea where i'm going or what i'm supposed to do... but it's soo much fun
yup yup... it's a new feeling to not know anything about Factions when you've beaten Prophecies numerous times :P
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