Curse

schutz · Dec 01, 2005, 06:51 PM // 18:51

If gladiators defence wasnt so essential flourish would have been nice

striderkaaru · Dec 01, 2005, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by schutz

If gladiators defence wasnt so essential flourish would have been nice

the build doesn't really have any attack skills, so i doubt flourish would be too useful. the reason why you shouldn't use melee attacks on the aatxe, as racthoh mentioned, is because their own ripostes hurt.

racthoh, what do you think of insidious parasite or parasitic bond?

if you don't plan on taking on the smites (they will just smite it, no pun intended) and decide to go through one of the other ways, those might help for healing. if you're not getting hit for that much anyway, the healing from either one of those skills might help for an easier time.

those are always two skills i glance over when coming up with a build involving a necro.

Son of Dusto · Dec 01, 2005, 06:54 PM // 18:54

what would be a good place outside of uw to practice this build?

Hiryu · Dec 01, 2005, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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Although I told myself not to reveal this, there hasn't been one other person who was capable of even getting to the smites.

Haha, you know, I doubt it matters too much that you revealed your build. It takes so much more skill and, more importantly, patience to pull off than many other UW solo builds that a person who can't figure this build by themself out probably wouldn't be able to play it very effectively either.

Much props for the achievement.

lyra_song · Dec 01, 2005, 07:32 PM // 19:32

You should call this "Passive Destruction" ^_^

Lord Oranos · Dec 01, 2005, 09:19 PM // 21:19

You should also give yourself a little pat on the back. Youve got me interested in farming once again, and Im sure youve inspired others as well. Thank you for releasing these builds(currently trying the spider one out, with the physical resistance thing someone said). Iono what else to say... its genious... for the longest time I laughed at the people that asked if warriors could solo the uw.

Son of Dusto · Dec 01, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21

what he said

Senator Tom · Dec 01, 2005, 09:32 PM // 21:32

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

Well like I said, I've given the build to a few who asked (well, first I would drive them insane by letting them guess all my skills)

=me
i had to work for this build...i did complete the ataxes 4 or 5 times...then i was gettin on one day to go farm some uw and guess what, capitan sparrow (leet warrior) is gone

now ghostly sparrow is coming to kill some ataxes

heh maybe i'm just not a good reader but i know the one thing that is crucial to getting this to work that he didnt put

LiQuId StEeL · Dec 01, 2005, 09:53 PM // 21:53

Very nice Ractoh. I'm not going to even attempt this, even though eventually I might be able to do it. Any other tricks hiding in those obsidian plated sleeves?

damkel · Dec 01, 2005, 10:14 PM // 22:14

can i name my first born after you Racthoh?

EDIT: considered putting price of failure in there?

Price of failure: (Hex Spell) For 30 seconds, target foe has a 25% chance to miss with attacks and takes 6..25 [32] damage whenever that foe fails to hit in combat.

will work wonders with glads defence since the aatxes will take about 50 damage whenever they miss. oooooh.

also. you could go for death magic and swop glads for virulence.

Virulence: ELITE (Spell) If target foe was already suffering from a Condition, that foe suffers from Disease, Poison, and Weakness for 3..13 [16] seconds

will give 11 health degen when deadly riposte used. will only be useful against aatxes though, not smiters

Racthoh · Dec 01, 2005, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Insidious Parasite AND Parasitic Bond have both been on my skillbar as well. Great against the aaxte, 85 damage from Smite Hex + Zealot's Fire damage. I stayed away from hexes when I actually tried to get to the smites.

To practice it, find an area with a lone melee enemy that you can quickly access and use the same pattern of skills. Avicara Brave use Savage Slash so they're your best bet for replicating the situation. So just outside of droks would probably be best suited for testing.

Honestly I can't think of another way for a warrior to singlehandedly take out the smites without a sword (prove me wrong

). Constant Reversals of Fortune will pretty much offset any attack, Riposte, Deadly Riposte, and Gladiator's are all I could think of to take them out.

And yes, I will be around to show people. I'll pay the entrance since like most their reserves are dropping trying this out.

lyra_song · Dec 01, 2005, 11:14 PM // 23:14

lets look at the smite hex for further examination.

It runs these skills:

Divine Intervention <--annoying
Mend Condition <--again annoying but only bad if you drop conditions like crazy
Reversal of Fortune <--as a monk this is the classic tool for survival. VERY annoying and against 1 fighter it can protect you for a long time
Shield of Judgement <---the heavy hitter...just..ouch...knockdown plus direct damage...
Smite Hex <--hexes make you go boom. cuts through armor and is AOE...not good...
Zealot's Fire <---all the above spells activate this pain in the butt.

So you cant hex DOT, you cant condition DOT, you certainly cant direct attack unless you want to get clobbered by SoJ and it will eat you up.

However as Racthoh build shows us, their weakness is their melee attacks.

Im wondering...is it possible to bring some other skill here?

Sympathetic Visage maybe?

Lou · Dec 01, 2005, 11:47 PM // 23:47

Can anyone help (point me in the right direction) with finding the spider build he made earlier?

merciless · Dec 02, 2005, 12:22 AM // 00:22

Hey, Rac. Do you think you could show me this run? It's hard for me to follow words precisely. I think you have a wonderful mind, friend.

TheArrow · Dec 02, 2005, 12:50 AM // 00:50

You've given me the inspiration to try and complete my W/Mo UW build that I had been sitting on for a week. Very nice job Racthoh. I'll have to try this build and take inspiration from it.

Dahnel · Dec 02, 2005, 12:55 AM // 00:55

damn i just spent 10k trying to pull this ....but meh cant expect to get it right away......mainly i do deadly ripoast then enfeeble the aataxe then get up wand and glads ( all well upto this point) but when i see glads flashing i start to panic and i cant remember what i'm supposed to be using next lol then just completly start to spam healing signet which cancels my bonnettis defense and i er ...die lol

striderkaaru · Dec 02, 2005, 01:06 AM // 01:06

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

Insidious Parasite AND Parasitic Bond have both been on my skillbar as well. Great against the aaxte, 85 damage from Smite Hex + Zealot's Fire damage. I stayed away from hexes when I actually tried to get to the smites.

...

Honestly I can't think of another way for a warrior to singlehandedly take out the smites without a sword (prove me wrong

). Constant Reversals of Fortune will pretty much offset any attack, Riposte, Deadly Riposte, and Gladiator's are all I could think of to take them out.

yeah, i was suggesting insidious parasite and parasitic bond for people who want to start off with just the aatxe. those skills are useless once you reach the smites, but it will be good for people just learning the run.

and i actually won't disagree with you regarding the sword, since i feel the same way. offensive attacks are out of the question. burst aoe can't sustain enough damage output, and gradual aoe makes them scatter since the update. that leaves the defensive counterattacks: glad's and the 2 ripostes.

but who knows.

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

Im wondering...is it possible to bring some other skill here?

Sympathetic Visage maybe?

=O

you're thinking in the right track, lyra.

one thing to keep in mind about sv is the inverse relationship of its effectiveness and the difficulty of the run. sv is more effective the more smites you're taking on, but the more you take on, the more difficult it is to keep up with both tanking damage and killing them. 15 sec from sv is enough to drain all of the energy from a group of 4-5, but they begin to regen after that. an echoed sv can be maintained for 45 sec, giving you a 30 sec window to kill them, but energy pool would be an issue here. also, a smite that misses because of glad defense won't trigger sv. ah, what a dilemma!

and since you've just switched the secondary to mesmer, you now have to worry about how to take on the aatxe without weakness.

=/

Scown-dog · Dec 02, 2005, 01:07 AM // 01:07

Racthez (you know who i mean) excellent guide? Contest winner maybe? Can't wait to see those wild blow Aaxtes. How much damage are u hit for when Dolyak is active, and "Watch Yourself" is not? For financial reasons I am unable to test this. Thanks.

TheArrow · Dec 02, 2005, 02:02 AM // 02:02

After many tries I realize that this build is very hard to pull of just from reading how. So if you wouldn't mind, show me a run ingame?

My Warrior's IGN: Arrow Da Man

Racthoh · Dec 02, 2005, 02:50 AM // 02:50

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Originally Posted by Scown-dog

Racthez (you know who i mean) excellent guide? Contest winner maybe? Can't wait to see those wild blow Aaxtes. How much damage are u hit for when Dolyak is active, and "Watch Yourself" is not? For financial reasons I am unable to test this. Thanks.

Actually the build will be added to the builds directory (received a PM today asking about it). *If* they do give them Wild Blow, to some extent it will still not be that difficult. In the stages of developing this (yes, it happened for quite some time) Plague Signet was my elite. That was a funny build, didn't even use the wand but it took forever.

Don't think too far ahead, and I would go with Strider's suggestion. Replace Watch Yourself with Parasitic Bond so you'll get an extra bit of healing every 20 seconds. It should help you get the timing down.

And here is the link to the FoW spider farmer: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=77852