Curse

willypiggy · Nov 22, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Hey everyone, im looking to fill up my Dungeon book (NM first then perhaps HM) and was wondering where to start. I have done Ooze Pit, The Kilroy Stonekin one + HoS. I would like to know what dungeons can be done with H/H (If there are particular builds to make it easier), Which dungeons can be PUG'd and if their are certain places where people team up for them. Thanks in advance

Whiskeyjack · Nov 22, 2007, 05:20 PM // 17:20

All of the dugoeons can be done H/H in nm, the easiest ones that come to mind are aracni haunt, darkrime delves and Temple of the damned.

Sprites · Nov 22, 2007, 06:03 PM // 18:03

you'll tell me how you beat duncan

himself would'n be too hard but his dungeon ... :x

tmr819 · Nov 22, 2007, 06:10 PM // 18:10

While it is possible to do all of the easy to difficult dungeons with h/h, some are much harder than others. From an h/h standpoint (just my opinion here):

Easy
--Secret Lair of the Snowmen
--Fronis Irontoe's Lair

Average
--Cathedral of Flames
--Ooze Pit
--Darkrime Delves
--Bogroot Growths
--Sepulchre of Draggimar
--Raven's Point
--Oola's Lab
--Bloodstone Caves
--Arachni's Haunt

Difficult (and, except for Heart of the Shiverpeaks, kind of long and tedious)
--Catacombs of Kathandrax (average dungeon, difficult end boss)
--Heart of the Shiverpeaks (average dungeon, difficult end boss)
--Vloxen Excavations
--Shards of Orr
--Rhaegar's Menagerie
--Frostmaw's Burrows*

Very Difficult
--Slaver's Exile*

*The Slaver's Exile dungeons and Frostmaw's are h/h-able, but I've never tried them.

For an expert player who has completed them many times and knows what to expect, the dungeons are probably all "easy", but I am no expert player.

The focus here is on the relative difficulties of these dungeons compared to one another, not compared to a particular player's skill or ability, which is highly subjective and varies widely.

tmakinen · Nov 22, 2007, 06:13 PM // 18:13

The easiest dungeon both in NM and HM is certainly The Secret Lair of the Snowmen, followed closely by Fronis Irontoe's Lair (the Kilroy Stonekin solo dungeon). Every dungeon can be H+H'd in NM (Slaver's requires proper builds and meticulous pulling), still not through them all in HM so cannot comment on that.

willypiggy · Nov 22, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Thanks a lot for the list, I have done the Lair Of The Snowmen and I am gonna type a few tonight with Sab's three necro hero builds.

Hobbs · Nov 22, 2007, 07:03 PM // 19:03

I h/hed every dungeon in NM except Rragar's (some guildies wanted to come), and the Forgewight and Selvetarm sections of Slavers'

erfweiss · Nov 22, 2007, 07:23 PM // 19:23

I managed to hero/hench all of the dungeons except:

Vloxen Excavations: Went with Guildie on Day 1 of GWEN release, 2+6 heros
Slavers Exile (all parts; because alliance wanted to tackle this together)

Proff · Nov 22, 2007, 08:42 PM // 20:42

seriously all of them are easy, just use sabs hero combination, and healer, prot, necro, guardian henches, throw in pain inverter and finish him somewhere in your build and like i said it's easy.

boxterduke · Nov 22, 2007, 09:02 PM // 21:02

I would have to say in NM, you can H/H all but have difficlties in Frostmaw's Burrows, Shards of Orr (just the boss), and the all famous Slaver's Exile.
Duncan is not hard, I would have to say Forgeweight and Selvetarm are harder than Duncan.
So you can do all NM dungeons alone and pug or do Slaver's with friends.

Horseman Of War · Nov 23, 2007, 03:06 AM // 03:06

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Originally Posted by tmakinen

The easiest dungeon both in NM and HM is certainly The Secret Lair of the Snowmen, followed closely by Fronis Irontoe's Lair (the Kilroy Stonekin solo dungeon). Every dungeon can be H+H'd in NM (Slaver's requires proper builds and meticulous pulling), still not through them all in HM so cannot comment on that.

for the first week or two of GwEn's hard mode, Id beat the miniboss dungeons in NM then do duncan in HM to get better use of my time...

Sacratus Ignis · Nov 23, 2007, 06:59 AM // 06:59

i h/hd all NM pretty easily... used guildies for HM tho

Anduin · Dec 18, 2007, 09:27 PM // 21:27

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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War

for the first week or two of GwEn's hard mode, Id beat the miniboss dungeons in NM then do duncan in HM to get better use of my time...

Can you still do it that way, or must each part be done in hard mode? I'd rather only do Duncan in hard mode and not the others if I am able.

I'd like to have some level of sanity left by the end of this.

mage767 · Dec 18, 2007, 10:41 PM // 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anduin

Can you still do it that way, or must each part be done in hard mode? I'd rather only do Duncan in hard mode and not the others if I am able.

I'd like to have some level of sanity left by the end of this.

I did all 4 before Duncan in HM, and it's NOT worth it.

Guildmaster Cain · Dec 18, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56

As long as you know what you are doing, you can beat any dungeon easily with heroes. Even duncan.

Doing with people makes it way faster plus often they know how to do it the right way.

Frostwurm is really easy for me and my heroes for instance, same as Kathandrax. My team setup is usually 3 E/Me SF spammers with interrupts, Zho, 2 monks and Herta. I myself am prot monk and usually I spam prot spells on myself and take all aggro. The AI of foes is dumb, since it always targets the player first. So I know who to target with my prot spells (shield of absorbtion etc) 20 foes all attacking me, bunched up together and 3 SF spammers nuking them to smithereens. SF wont trigger scatter, where SH would. The most annoying dungeon for me to do the first time was Shards of Orr, the boss himself in particular. The dungeon was actually pretty fast, but the boss took me over 2 hours to kill with me having 60 DP and all... -.-

Anduin · Dec 19, 2007, 06:23 AM // 06:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by mage767

I did all 4 before Duncan in HM, and it's NOT worth it.

Is it possible to do the first four in normal mode, and then do Duncan in Hard mode to get the dungeon completion?

anonymous · Dec 19, 2007, 07:55 AM // 07:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anduin

Is it possible to do the first four in normal mode, and then do Duncan in Hard mode to get the dungeon completion?

yes you can do that

mazey vorstagg · Dec 19, 2007, 10:05 AM // 10:05

You can H/H Slaver's but you'll need a real team if you want to do Duncan HM

RTSFirebat · Dec 19, 2007, 10:37 AM // 10:37

If you do H+H Slavers' Exile (Yes is SLAVERS' not SLAVER'S - it doesn't belong to someone called Slaver LOL) make sure you go slowly, pull careful. The mob groups are massive and they don't return to their original locations sometimes. I have a mob of 20+ camping the res point killing me over and over again.

Don't let that happen to you

mazey vorstagg · Dec 19, 2007, 12:13 PM // 12:13

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

If you do H+H Slavers' Exile (Yes is SLAVERS' not SLAVER'S - it doesn't belong to someone called Slaver LOL)

A bit off topic, but I thought it was Slaver's Exile. As in, it belongs to Duncan. He's the one and only Slaver.
Just like "the Chef's kitchen"
"the Slaver's Exile"
Slaver's exile