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Old Jan 03, 2008, 03:09 PM // 15:09   #21
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I like the Ruby Djinn Asura summon ^^ Fun fun
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Old Jan 03, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15   #22
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I really like Drunken Master, the vanguard assassin summon is nice also.
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Old Jan 03, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55   #23
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I normally use either Pain Inverter or Ebon Vanguard Battle Standard of Courage this skill probably saved our party in frostmaw's burrow (the hm version) multiple times.
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Old Jan 03, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03   #24
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Assassin's promise + ebon assassin = win
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Old Jan 03, 2008, 11:41 PM // 23:41   #25
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mark of pain+ebon sin=gg.

that and pain inverter are pretty much glued to my bar,
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23   #26
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pain inverter..and light of deld.for dungeons
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 02:53 PM // 14:53   #27
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Why am I not surprised?

I am almost positive 90% of the users of this forum use the skill for its name alone.
Have you ever used the skill? It has multiple effects, as well as amusing speech bubbles. In fact one of the effects recharges all of your skills, very useful if you have a lot of slow recharging spells. It's just only useful when you have a lot of things dying, which isn't that often in normal PvE, but very common when farming.

Also, I don't use Pain Inverter much since I mainly play on my necromancer and so if I wanted to punish a foe for attacking, I'd just use Spoil Victor. More damage, and lasts longer.

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Old Jan 04, 2008, 02:59 PM // 14:59   #28
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Why am I not surprised?

I am almost positive 90% of the users of this forum use the skill for its name alone.
It's phenomenally useful for sliver armour based solo farming builds.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51   #29
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Also, I don't use Pain Inverter much since I mainly play on my necromancer and so if I wanted to punish a foe for attacking, I'd just use Spoil Victor. More damage, and lasts longer.
Pain inverter fits in well with a curses based necro build, like an SS necro. Also, Spoil Victor doesn't trigger on non-targeted spells (like firestorm), and I believe it only triggers once on targeted AoE spells, while pain inverter triggers for each instance of damage done (so if someone casts an aoe spell into a bunch of minions, they'll probably die on the spot, with lines of 80's above their head).
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35   #30
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Also, I don't use Pain Inverter much since I mainly play on my necromancer and so if I wanted to punish a foe for attacking, I'd just use Spoil Victor. More damage, and lasts longer.
Pain inverter isnt for unishing attackers (unless you have nothing better to do). It's for punishing AoE users in HM (and attackers that use AoE attacks like Giant somp, tripple chop, hundred blades, etc...). On the right targets it's a cast and forget spell that will kill the critter within it's duration. Not many spells that do that. Oh yeah and it does a number on most bosses.

I've been using Infection signet lots lately for the fun of BHA + Screaming shot + Infection + Epidemic.

I figure Dervs would love Mental Block from the asura line.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 06:58 PM // 18:58   #31
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Pain inverter fits in well with a curses based necro build, like an SS necro. Also, Spoil Victor doesn't trigger on non-targeted spells (like firestorm), and I believe it only triggers once on targeted AoE spells, while pain inverter triggers for each instance of damage done (so if someone casts an aoe spell into a bunch of minions, they'll probably die on the spot, with lines of 80's above their head).
The 7 - 8 seconds (no, I am not going to grind to the higher ranks) that it lasts isn't worth it in my opinion. Much more effective to use something like [wiki]Desecrate Enchantments[/wiki] since elementalists have a large tendency to use enchantments, as well it even has a faster recharge and it's AoE.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17   #32
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My experience even at lower ranks (starting r5 I guess) is that pain inverter is almost always worth it. You underestimate the speed at which eles and other casters spam there AoE spells in HM (think char fire casters, flowstone elementals, ruby djinn, the list goes on). Pain inverter takes them from full to dead or almost dead extremely quick.

Either way there's nothing that keeps you from packing both spells.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 08:53 PM // 20:53   #33
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The funniest place to use PI is on the Great Destroyer. It's like he's halfway down, PI ... cutscene
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00   #34
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I never get tired of using it on Jotun Skullsmashers Gian stomp brings em to about 1/10th health and then they die on the next one or two hits.

It's also way faster to kill siege wurms by casting PI on them and letting them hit you rather than interrupting them... Well it's not always recommended but in some situations it works out well.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40   #35
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[skill]Arcane echo[/skill][skill]echo[/skill]||Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support||"You Move Like a Dwarf!"||"Finish Him!"||[skill]glyph of sacrifice[/skill][skill]meteor shower[/skill][skill]liquid flame[/skill]


That's my "monk killa" build. Dual, triple, or quad monks no worries.

Those 3 are my fav rep point skills. But some of the PvE only skills go better with different professions.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 11:37 PM // 23:37   #36
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Pain Inverter: yes definitely an AOE killer. I don't know many skills that can do 2400 damage in less than a second. Example: Shockwave boss using Shockwave (hits 3 times) + 10 minions + Pain Inverter == one dead Shockwave boss. Funny as hell to see. Pain Inverter works great on those Charr rangers as well.
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Old Jan 05, 2008, 02:31 AM // 02:31   #37
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Finish Him!
I am unstoppable
You move like a dwarf!

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Old Jan 05, 2008, 03:45 AM // 03:45   #38
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Yes pain inverter is very cruel even at level 5 and that's only one book turned in. You could get to rank 8 very easily farming normal mode books. But nevermind that anyway. It only need to be on the target foe for the 1 second it cast it's most damaging skill and most of the time kaboom they are dead!
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Old Jan 05, 2008, 05:39 AM // 05:39   #39
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ursan blessing is /rape of all
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Old Jan 05, 2008, 06:25 AM // 06:25   #40
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ursan blessing is /rape of all
Well Ursan Blessing with one or 2 people isn't all that , but 5 to 6 people in a party with, it can get scary for the lil monsters.
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