Curse

frickaline · Mar 18, 2008, 02:28 PM // 14:28

I've heard a lot of different points of view on this. While Ursan surely has it's merits, the lack of variety of builds to play has me now completely bored with the game.

It seems to me like Ursan is the only thing people want to play these days and the only thing people are looking for in the elite mish areas. I find myself longing for the days before consumables and Ursan where a good player was better than a 5 skill palm smash build any day and where a little thought was actually helpful toward the build you played.

Are others becoming disillusioned with Ursan also or is everyone still loving this "skill"?

[Morkai] · Mar 18, 2008, 02:32 PM // 14:32

People were allowed to make their own builds and choose their own skills from the begining. Ursan is a skill..and people never take it if they don't want to.

There's been 1000 threads like this one, and there will be 1000 more.

For me personally it's a Saviour. Saves me grinding the books for EotN reputation, i just steamroll the quests with Ursan. I run Balanced in missions usually, (Ursan if it's a hero heavy party).

MisterB · Mar 18, 2008, 02:32 PM // 14:32

Neither one; I'm indifferent. I find it a boring skill, so I don't play it. It's just a different kind of PuG spam for me to ignore.

Richardt · Mar 18, 2008, 02:34 PM // 14:34

Quick solution: Don't run Ursan and don't play with those that do.

I will admit I was all excited about it, but now seeing that people have stagnated their builds and just run Ursan, it got boring. So now I don't ever use unless I'm doing Mallyx and I request that anyone doing a dungeon or whatev. doesn't use it.

frickaline · Mar 18, 2008, 02:38 PM // 14:38

Guys ... if everyone else is playing Ursan, I'd have to play completely alone to not play it or wait around in town not playing for at least an hour to find a balanced team. It seems to me that at least 30 Ursan groups will form for every balanced group. That's quite a queue.

I think if they don't nerf this skill soon, it will mean the end of the game for a lot of people, myself included.

Trub · Mar 18, 2008, 02:44 PM // 14:44

I pray that by creating this thread frickaline, a flame war will not ensue.
But, looking at your join date...I will comment on your thread..because it looks to be an honest question from you..and not a trolling attempt.

At first, I was highly dissapointed at ANet's attempt to 'dumb down' this wonderful game, by introducing something as mindless as the ursan Blessing.
Then, with more thought..and active gameplay within my guild WITHOUT ursaners...my mind set has changed.
GW1 is going to hell in a hand basket.
In major areas all you see is: " r8-10 UB LFG"
Then watch as they argue that such and such a proffession can't go because their armor is too low? Hahahahaaa!!
Let the kiddies have their fun. I don't have to play with them, and any 'accomplishments' I acheive will proudly be proclaimed with the line: 'Done without UB'.
The economy is a joke..there are NO more elite areas...
So, in the words of the immortal John Lennon:
"Let it be."
~Peace.
P.S.

May the Gods have mercy on GW2.

Zydonis · Mar 18, 2008, 02:44 PM // 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by frickaline

I think if they don't nerf this skill soon, it will mean the end of the game for a lot of people, myself included.

It probably will. I've never used the skill, and probably wont, but it doesn't bother me if others do.

Albert Algorn · Mar 18, 2008, 02:46 PM // 14:46

I for one don't use it but then I haven't really gotten into EoTN. It is beginning to look like I and everyone that wants to continue playing will be forced to acquire the skill and grind away enough reputation points to make it useful. I did enough grinding in NF so for the moment I'm going to wait for the nerf...

frickaline · Mar 18, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47

It is an honest question, Trub, and I have never posted anything like this before. I have loved this game since the original World Preview Event and never really had any complaints ... until now.

The reason I ask the question is this. If others are not sick of ursan nor becoming sick of it, then there is no hope for me to find interest in the game because I will never have people to play with again.

Nadasee · Mar 18, 2008, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Sure there is ALOT of people who use Ursan in partys (In Elite missions/grinding it's obvious these days) But sure, it is frustrating to see it in normal partys. Like they don't even try to make a fitting skillset for their profession... Otherwise i have no problem with it.

I never use that skill myself couse i love the skill building/mixing. Don't wanna be chained to one skill... So i'm sure there are people still using skills out there, don't you loose hope

Free Runner · Mar 18, 2008, 02:50 PM // 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albert Algorn

I for one don't use it but then I haven't really gotten into EoTN. It is beginning to look like I and everyone that wants to continue playing will be forced to acquire the skill and grind away enough reputation points to make it useful. I did enough grinding in NF so for the moment I'm going to wait for the nerf...

Explain please because i'm interested. Why will you and everyone that wants to continue playing be forced to aquire Ursan and "grind" the Norn reputation title track to make it useful?. What is forcing you?

Trub · Mar 18, 2008, 02:53 PM // 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by frickaline

It is an honest question, Trub, and I have never posted anything like this before. I have loved this game since the original World Preview Event and never really had any complaints ... until now.

The reason I ask the question is this. If others are not sick of ursan nor becoming sick of it, then there is no hope for me to find interest in the game because I will never have people to play with again.

Well frickaline..it's time you took the next step as my guild has:
"Challenge the clock."
Our guild makes mini challenges to be overcome without UB, it's actually great fun.
AND we don't have to associate with bears..

What I do find sad is that alot of the UB players are crying because the seasoned players won't give them tips on game play...kinda funny ehh?

Monk Gsb · Mar 18, 2008, 02:55 PM // 14:55

to free runner,

because every area now every pug is saying "ursan blessing lf 5 more ursan blesssings and 2 monks !!!!!!111" or "starting a vanquish team URSAN BLESSINGS ONLY !!!1!!" ect.

JONO51 · Mar 18, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06

I like Ursan. Without it, I would never have been able to do DoA on my para. Now I got a nice monkey statue, and I had fun. I have done it a few times in UW aswell, but it doesnt stop me running a balanced team.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 18, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Ursan is neither ruining my game (because I don't play with it or anyone who do) nor my savior (because I don't need it).

It is, however, an annoyance. It's very existence insults me, as I really like Guild Wars, and Ursan...
a) teaches & rewards people to play like rusher wammos,
b) destroys the whole concept behind guild wars: that you can adapt your skill bar. Ursan is a one-size-fits-all skillbar,
c) makes a lie of the Guild Wars motto "skill over time",
d) is boring as hell to play (yes, of course I've tried it),

and last but not least is the nail in my soul that I know that no matter what class I am, no matter what skillbar I design, it could be improved by removing 7 skills and replacing the 8th with Ursan.

It is stupid and boring and anti-everything-guildwars. Yeah, I hate it. But it's neither ruining GW nor saving me.

EDIT: Incidentally, if ANet is reading this: it'd be very easy to fix ursan and bring it more into line wrt power to the other PvE skills: make the AoE knockdown single-target. That's all it takes. The power of ursan is the power of damage mitigation through knockdown.

frickaline · Mar 18, 2008, 03:19 PM // 15:19

To those of you that are running balanced (which seems to be everyone in the thread), where the heck are you?

How is it everyone here "really only runs balanced" when its clear from the town spam that everyone is running/looking for ursan?

There seems to be a disconnect here ...

Trub · Mar 18, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by frickaline

To those of you that are running balanced (which seems to be everyone in the thread), where the heck are you?

How is it everyone here "really only runs balanced" when its clear from the town spam that everyone is running/looking for ursan?

There seems to be a disconnect here ...

We hide in the shadows of ID1.(With the battle lions..wolves, and little ole me.)
Less lag, and zomg..less bears.

joshuarodger · Mar 18, 2008, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

Explain please because i'm interested. Why will you and everyone that wants to continue playing be forced to aquire Ursan and "grind" the Norn reputation title track to make it useful?. What is forcing you?

you're forced to acquire the skill and grind the points because you can't PUG without it anymore. Go to DoA and see what kind of PUGs are there, all Ursan. and they want rank 8 or better. you can't get a decent team together anymore of just characters playing their normal profession. you have to be ursan if you want to join the group. your guildmates aren't always online or able to stop whatever it is they're doing to run an elite mission and you can't exactly H/H DoA, so you're forced into a PUG but if you don't have ursan blessing AND a decent norn rank, you can't even do that anymore.

I D E L E T E D I · Mar 18, 2008, 03:32 PM // 15:32

yup clever people play in ID1 or even korean district but thats a bit laggy

frickaline · Mar 18, 2008, 03:40 PM // 15:40

hmmm ID1 ... if it's bear-free, I'm moving in!