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Proff · Jan 25, 2008, 01:47 PM // 13:47

For nm only bring frenzy, a self heal and try and keep yourself alive for 10 mins, and for hm bring frenzy, ursan blessing, and a self heal since he can't use ursan it should be a really quick fight after the 2 minutes are up. So for nm and hm keep yourself alive for the time needed and when you get to the time you want it should be easy.

The Way Out · Jan 25, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Bring Ursan Blessing only on your skill bar. The doppleganger can't use it because it can only use PvP skills. You, on the other hand, can use it. You will laugh when your doppleganger wands away at you as you pwn him/her... lol.

Stewie · Jan 27, 2008, 02:16 AM // 02:16

Yeah, on my warrior all I used to kill him was SS and Insidious (hard mode). If you had those two and enough damage reduction and healing to out do his arrows, and don't attack back. Cast SS and Insidious when you want him to die.

Also, bit off topic, but I suggest saving ferocious strike for last for getting all 4 skill capping titles in about 2minutes.

RLBadKarma · Feb 08, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

I tried something a bit different, I went in with Thunderfists Brass Knuckles on my W/Ele!!!

Was pretty much in total control of fight. Could end it whenever I wanted. Was a hoot.

Red Robed Warrior · Feb 09, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

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Originally Posted by Caged Fury

I haven't faced doppy for a long, long time. Not sure if this will work. Take the bare minimum skills needed to kill him, for the rest take stances/shouts like Shields Up, Deflect Arrows, etc. and a speed buff. Keep your distance so doppy just plink arrows at you, use stance/shouts to avoid being hit and run around. When you're done grieving doppy for whatever time, then rush in and make the kill.

yes but what if he uses them on u like said before so this tactic is really useful AT ALL

jave a nice day

N1ghtstalker · Feb 09, 2008, 10:57 PM // 22:57

W/E
glyph of sacrifice and flare/stone daggers
that's all you need
don't use the glyph
he will
win

or just frenzy and healing sig with savage slash
will work quite well

Mouse at Large · Feb 09, 2008, 11:47 PM // 23:47

Just for fun, as an Ele I went with Me secondary, Backfire and Ebon Vaguard Assassin in HM with the usual 3 useless/long cast times in the first 3 skill slots.

Easy win

Eldin · Feb 14, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27

On my warrior, I forget what I did exactly - I brought Frenzy and didn't use it, was able to rape the Doppelganger in like 10 seconds.

I have this old screenie, I beat my warrior Doppel on HM with:

[skill]Deadly Riposte[/skill][skill]Gladiator's Defense[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill][skill]Endure Pain[/skill]

On my ranger, I did the old "shoot at him whilst he wastes time using nature rituals" thing, though I found a better method - bring your pet and as many pet skills as you can. He'll be at uneven odds with you and be pwnd - this works quite well in HM.

On my mesmer, I went ranger secondary with Dryder's Defense (whirling defense/dodge are also good alternatives). I filled the other 5 slots in my skill bar with random mesmer skills like mantras.I maxxed out Domination Magic and put Empathy and Backfire on him, then just ran around with the ranger stance up, avoiding his attacks. He killed himself.

[email protected] · Feb 15, 2008, 12:48 PM // 12:48

can't you run from beacons to droks and pick up the story line missions from there without beating your doppleganger at all?

i know you will miss the 30 attribute points if you are tyrian born...

Kyrein · Feb 15, 2008, 12:54 PM // 12:54

and you cant change profession........

greywolf31 · Feb 15, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

can't you run from beacons to droks and pick up the story line missions from there without beating your doppleganger at all?

Umm, I don't get it... (Now I'm not picking on this poster, but I've seen several similar posts lately)

Why Bother to play the game if you don't want to play the game...

I mean really, some ppl will spend more money and time tryin' to get around playin' the game than if they had just played the game...

I understand tryin' to get a run to Droks for skills and armor... but nowadays you can get tomes and use faction to unlock skills so that really isn't a valid point anymore, and you can get good armor pretty much anywhere.

Like ppl who run to the walkthrough at the first hurdle, instead of tryin' to figure it out first.
(Not GW, in particular but RPG games in general)
Think it thru, then play it thru..

We as gamers tend to be better thinkers than the norm, so use it...

If ya have trouble then ask fer help with it, not shortcuts.

You are only short-cutting yourself.

What is the point, to beat the game? LOL

I laugh, cuz ya never really beat the game until you have all the titles...

Then they'll just add new titles. o.O

Eldin · Feb 15, 2008, 08:15 PM // 20:15

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Originally Posted by Kyrein

and you cant change profession........

If you go to Factions or NF, profession changing is simpler, though you will have to get moderately far in the story.

Or go to the PvP Great Temple and change your profession there.

Personally I think Prophecies' idea of quests for profession changing was very clever, but yeah, not worth our time.

[email protected] · Feb 16, 2008, 11:59 AM // 11:59

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Originally Posted by greywolf31

Umm, I don't get it... (Now I'm not picking on this poster, but I've seen several similar posts lately)

Why Bother to play the game if you don't want to play the game...

he has played the game, he want's to do a title spike, he wants to get past the auguary rock mission without the bonus and come back to it later so he can get protector / guardian of tyria very quickly...

i was giving him an alternative to having to draw out his doppleganger fight, nothing more.

Blu · Feb 16, 2008, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Bring Frenzy?.. Add anything else in other slots.

Stewie · Feb 17, 2008, 01:01 AM // 01:01

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

he has played the game, he want's to do a title spike, he wants to get past the auguary rock mission without the bonus and come back to it later so he can get protector / guardian of tyria very quickly...

i was giving him an alternative to having to draw out his doppleganger fight, nothing more.

Yeah, he also wants to do dragon's lair before doing doppleganger bonus, which requires doing doppleganger mission=).

Phoenix Tears · Feb 17, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

lol, beating doppelganger is the most easiest shit in the whole game.. you just need a skill bar full of skills, that will be all NO advantage for the doppelganger, buy maybe even benefit you far more, any skills, that don't cause damage to you, but have very long cast times and reload time...

skills like ranger spirits, or easy to interrupt skills, like traps... you have just to combine skills that the doppelganger should use and should help him absolutely not together with skills, with that you will be able to kill the doppelganger, before the doppelganger will use them too...

the doppelganger is extreme easy to manipulate, because he will EVER use first all his buffs, traps, preparations, stances ect. FIRST, before he will use any attack skills and spells!!!

Most easy is it, when you give your build some pve only skills, the doppelganger is UNABLE to copy those skills

Take into your build:

Ursan Blessing
Ebon Vanguard Assasine
Pain Inverter
(Rest full of for the Doppelganger useless enchants, preparations ect. which won't benefit him)

Match starts, use the sin on him, asap pain Inverter following and transform to UB and rush at the Doppeganger ...
The Dopel will watch all his time with the for him useless enchants ,preps ec.t, while the assassin smashes and interrupts at the Doppel and you as UB kick his butt in short time into the ground. The rest will be supported by self owning damage from pain inverter, if he tries maybe to attack you normally meanwhile, or the ebon sin

this tactics with manipulating skills to let the doppelganger become a dumb noob works with all professions, its just the matter of the right secondary mostly to have the right, or better said.. enough useful skills for your bar, with that the doppelganger will just waste time, while you can easily smash him to death in short time, so short, that you get eassily the bonus and will have the feeling, you could also do this blinded with only 1 finger

Masseur · Feb 17, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15

funny reading the posts as it doesn't appear they read the OP at all. They are all suggesting on how to KILL the dopple as quickly as possible which is NOT what the OP was asking.

Phoenix Tears · Feb 17, 2008, 11:38 AM // 11:38

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Originally Posted by Masseur

funny reading the posts as it doesn't appear they read the OP at all. They are all suggesting on how to KILL the dopple as quickly as possible which is NOT what the OP was asking.

lol XD ok, so other way ? XD k ...

the same.. put a load of for the doppel useless skills into the bar, with that he wil waste only his energy and time, and use self pve only skills to kill him, that are 3 skills, that the doppel can't use...

just wait then long enough, when x minutes are over, go ursan and beat the shit out of the doppel, when the time fror bonus is over

MagmaRed · Feb 17, 2008, 01:18 PM // 13:18

I'm confused. There is no need to get the mission done with and without bonus. Completing the bonus still advances you to the Dragons Lair. Why would you want to complete it without the bonus?

Kyomi Tachibana · Feb 17, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

I'm confused. There is no need to get the mission done with and without bonus. Completing the bonus still advances you to the Dragons Lair. Why would you want to complete it without the bonus?

He wants to do all the bonus' for the other missions and return to do the bonus quickly in Augury Rock for a title spike of sorts.

Also, you could always just hide behind one of the walls, go afk for a few minutes, return, and kill him, since he uses the bow unless you close to melee range, iirc. I haven't done Doppel in quite awhile, I'll go check it out.