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Syn Wind · Jun 05, 2008, 01:11 AM // 01:11

After just making it to the temple, several times i might add, i tried one time to
do the mission to free 8 souls, knowing its a timer mission , just how hard is it??
i have 3 new hero's not greatly equipped, but working on it, took them with a
hench team, but failed, admitedly i was in a bit of a hurry just seeing was needed to do for the mission, has anyone done the mission, within the time
limit, and how many times ? - what is a best / good way to do it,

joshuarodger · Jun 05, 2008, 01:17 AM // 01:17

which heroes do you have? and what prof are you?

RPGmaniac · Jun 05, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23

From experience, bringing an MM helps A TON. If you have a necro hero (like Olias for example) set him up as an MM, perhaps using the Sabway Jagged Bones build. If you can't run that specific build, just give him some minion spells like [Animate Bone Horror] or [Animate Bone Minions]. I'd stay away from [Animate Bone Fiend] because the idea is to have the minions serve as tanks and bone fiends aren't for tanking.

If you are a necro, you could run the above build and bring a nuker hero (assuming you have an ele hero) since you need to clear the rooms pretty fast. But you also gotta be careful about aggro. In this mission it can get pretty easy, especially in the later rooms, to overaggro and wipe.

fusa · Jun 05, 2008, 01:26 AM // 01:26

Minion master helps a lot there, interrupter if you have one. Otherwise just be sure to pull the temple guardians away first then take out afflicted elementalists then monks, rest die easy. The choke point on the stairs entering the rooms is usually a good place to flag h/h to limit the amount coming past tanks/minions.

Syn Wind · Jun 05, 2008, 01:32 AM // 01:32

ah yes sorry, my mistake my profession is assassin / monk, my hero's are vekk.
gwen, and the dwarf healer cant remember his name, my campaigns are just
factions and eotn atm = ( , pve.

joshuarodger · Jun 05, 2008, 01:37 AM // 01:37

i would recommend going through the asura line of EOTN and getting Livia as one of your heroes and always use her in your quests/missions as a minion master. there are very few areas of any of the games where a MM doesn't help out quite a bit you may also want to just go ahead and beat EOTN before factions so you can have access to a few more heroes. also do the norn fighting tourney. you can unlock a few more heroes there also. at least this way you can pick and choose which heroes fit certain areas the best.

Syn Wind · Jun 05, 2008, 01:45 AM // 01:45

ohhh, thats really helpful to know, i do have a couple of asure quest to do ,
then when i have livia, im hoping i can do what rpgmaniac said in previous post?
great thanks for that......= )

Omnidragon42 · Jun 05, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07

Nitpick but it's Tahnnakai Temple

Just be real careful not to pull too many, is my best advice. Those fire elementalists hurt!

azizul1975 · Jun 05, 2008, 02:13 AM // 02:13

i was about to ask "what temple is that ?", well you beat me to it omnidragon42..

yup those temple guardians hurt bad. bring BHA interrupter ranger hero, SF ele hero, condition spreader necro hero, and few henchies, you're done. you may have to rush if you aim to get master though. this is one of the mission that depends on the action of NPC (just like viz sq mission).

HawkofStorms · Jun 05, 2008, 02:43 AM // 02:43

The timer really isn't that big of a deal. You can easily beat the mission with 15 miniutes to spare, since you get more time every time you free a soul.

The big problem with this mission is Mhenlo and Togo tend to charge into battle and get themselves killed. Severally places require you to pull groups, but Mhenlo and Togo make that impossible. The best way to do this mission is to have a human healer. Henchmen and heroes don't know to heal them.

Neo Nugget · Jun 05, 2008, 02:53 AM // 02:53

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Originally Posted by Omnidragon42

Nitpick but it's Tahnnakai Temple

Fixed title

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If your going for masters, remember the mission really doesn't end until you kill all the enemies around the final assassin boss.

Syn Wind · Jun 05, 2008, 02:54 AM // 02:54

ok, there's been some really good info from u guys, which has been really helpfull. =) just a one more tho - directions - is there a good way to go as in left or right as such, once inside ? ..... oh and omni thanks for that title update xD , couldnt remember the correct spelling, so just typed the nearest sounding name i could think of =P as im accessing this site from public computer...

Neo Nugget · Jun 05, 2008, 02:54 AM // 02:54

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Originally Posted by Syn Wind

ok, there's been some really good info from u guys, which has been really helpfull. =) just a one more tho - directions - is there a good way to go as in left or right as such, once inside ? .....

You end up in the same room, so no it doesn't really matter. I just go for whichever i'm closest to.

The Red Messenger · Jun 05, 2008, 05:52 AM // 05:52

yeah i wouls also reccomend the MM...

jagged bombers work very nicely ([jagged bones][animate bone minions][blood of the master][death nova])

also bring enchant removal &/or interrupts for [sliver armor] on the ele boss will own with minions attacking it

Lycan Nibbler · Jun 05, 2008, 06:54 AM // 06:54

If you see me online, havent done it yet and I am free, I will run it for you (I have run 10 survivors through this and a host of friends). You may either come along or stand at the beginining and make a drink.

If you have got it done, then congrats or if you prefer to do it yourself, then Livia is a definite plus, as well as unlocking any skills you can for your heros to use too - you are at a bit of a disadvantage with not having all skills available to you (and being a Sin..lol).

I would have added you but apparently "Syn Wind" doesnt exist...

Lycan Nibbler · Jun 05, 2008, 06:55 AM // 06:55

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Originally Posted by The Red Messenger

yeah i wouls also reccomend the MM...

jagged bombers work very nicely ([jagged bones][animate bone minions][blood of the master][death nova])

also bring enchant removal &/or interrupts for [sliver armor] on the ele boss will own with minions attacking it

He cant use Jagged as he doesnt have NF.

I would also recommend getting pain inverter,(asura title track) in EOTN, I find that it destroys the ele boss pretty quickly.

ogre_jd · Jun 05, 2008, 10:22 AM // 10:22

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

The big problem with this mission is Mhenlo and Togo tend to charge into battle and get themselves killed. Severally places require you to pull groups, but Mhenlo and Togo make that impossible.

I got lucky when I went through Tahnnakai Temple with a PUG* last night on my healing Monk** and I got lucky that Togo & Mhenlo somehow got linked to me and therefore stayed back most of the time rather than following the leader like they usually seem to do.

* A Leeroy Assassin and a Ranger, who was the party leader, with a pet - but no support skills for it - and a shortbow were the only problems, really.

** Wish I was good enough to do Protection, but I'm barely competent enough to keep enchantments up on myself where I can see the icon, much less estimate when they need to be reapplied on others.

pamelf · Jun 05, 2008, 01:07 PM // 13:07

I actually find that mission a lot easier to H/H than to do with real players. The trick more than anything is really just not to aggro too much. Flag all your henches or heroes back and pull, pull, pull!

Lyndka · Jun 05, 2008, 01:39 PM // 13:39

Pretty much as everyone has said - take the Guardians down first but go carefully and try to pull them away from the rest then take the monk/healers away from the bad guys, they will drop pretty easy then.

As you have EoTn then you need to get to Gadds Encampment (unless you quest to get there you have to through Shards of Orr - not fun - unless you can find a PUG or run there) to get Livia.

You might also consider as you have Factions, changing your second and going to cap Golem (out of Senji's corner) for Livia to use. Put a Sup Death in her mask and either a Major or Sup Soul Reaping elsewhere then a minor vigor and a couple of attunement then some health giving insignia (Survivor, Radiant and one Minion Master).

Once you've done that - wind her Death Magic as high it will go, followed by Soul reaping and watch the L28 Golem tank! Keep Ogden with you to help heal her and then find a Me Shutdown build from PvXWiki for Gwen. If you go 'solo' then add a hench healer (for backup) then Cynn and whoever else - this should get you through most parts of EoTN and Factions and with some care and patience - even the Temple!

ogre_jd · Jun 05, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by Lyndka

As you have EoTn then you need to get to Gadds Encampment (unless you quest to get there you have to through Shards of Orr - not fun - unless you can find a PUG or run there) to get Livia.

You shouldn't need to quest to get there - unless Shards of Orr is locked before you talk to Livia in Vlox's Falls? Other than that, there's only one other route - a route which is probably just as difficult, depending on your builds (Eye of the North/Olafstead -> Battledepths -> Heart of the Shiverpeaks (the very hard part) -> Bogroot Growths -> Sparkfly Swamp).

Anyways it's probably a better idea, if the OP decides that Livia's going to be necessary to get through the Temple, to just play through EotN to get there naturally, accumulating experience and skills (both player and character

) along the way. There's usually PUGs, assuming you find you can't do it with just Heroes (usually Ogden, Vekk and Gwen, probably Jora, at that point), going from Olafstead to Umbral Grotto and then through the Vloxen Excavations to Vlox's Falls. Then go back to Tahnnakai Temple to try again with your Heroes - the journey to Vlox's Falls, then to Gadd's Encampment, will give plenty of time to get used to having Heroes and to tweak them so you get builds that work for you.