Curse

Xaero Gouki Kriegor · Sep 05, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

this opens ALOT of doors,

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lol for a while, when i used the grenths balance build alot, i was use to getting down to low hp, i hit HH alot of times when i was 50-75 hp :P

woftam · Sep 06, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18

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when I was really low.

I try ot ever get below 50% , for that 1 reason...

Hand of Ruin · Sep 06, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09

I tried the Dragonslash build yesterday.

Works very nicely, but It's dissapointing to only be seeing 60-70 with maxed sword... I terribly missed my axe on that run.

Also, I really dislike having to sprint away from clumped spawns and wait for them to fan out.(I'm aware of the technique of dragging them away slowly and waiting for one to use a skill to seperate them, I don't like this either) This alone seems to slow down the run enough to make it not much faster then what I've been using.

I'm trying to work out a w/mo build with frenzy to use with my axe, but lack of healing sig + skales = wasted money.

W/Me has always worked great, but the advantages of frenzy are undeniable. Once I get around the damned skales, I think my build will work much faster then anything I've used yet. If it works good maybe I'll time it and see how it compares to some other builds people are using.

Arangja · Sep 06, 2006, 08:11 AM // 08:11

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Originally Posted by Hand of Ruin

I tried the Dragonslash build yesterday.

Works very nicely, but It's dissapointing to only be seeing 60-70 with maxed sword... I terribly missed my axe on that run.

Also, I really dislike having to sprint away from clumped spawns and wait for them to fan out.(I'm aware of the technique of dragging them away slowly and waiting for one to use a skill to seperate them, I don't like this either) This alone seems to slow down the run enough to make it not much faster then what I've been using.

I'm trying to work out a w/mo build with frenzy to use with my axe, but lack of healing sig + skales = wasted money.

W/Me has always worked great, but the advantages of frenzy are undeniable. Once I get around the damned skales, I think my build will work much faster then anything I've used yet. If it works good maybe I'll time it and see how it compares to some other builds people are using.

I am doing this run now with the wammo build and with sword under 40 min.
I also figured out how to stop the spiders from using healing springs even when they are clumped up together. After reading on wiki about them this is how to stop them from healing. If you are in malee range (sword or axe attack range) they will not use healing springs. So what I started doing to test this is if there are 3 of them clumped together I attack the middle spider of the three, wack it once with flurry and then turn to the one to its left and attack him, that stops 2 of them using haling springs and the one being attacked is not healing himself. Then when he is dead i attack the other one, still not the middle one, once again that stops the middle one and the attacked one to not use healing springs because you are right inbetween them. Once that one is dead well take out the one thats left.

This is just what I do and it works, also now again I'm back to be able to tank and kill all 18 spiders in the beginning in 1 go, no more retreating to heal up. (W/Mo) build.
Lately its getting harder for me again because of the wireless connection I have, its very inconsistant and a lot of packet loss, so once I get my cable installed it should go even better still.

That just my 2 cents guys

foo · Sep 06, 2006, 08:20 AM // 08:20

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Originally Posted by Arangja

....That just my 2 cents guys

Thanks Arengja, just what I was too lazy to type out.

just an addition, when they are bunched up all together, (sometimes I run in, so that all of the ones outside the cave are clumped into one groups), I stand as close to the center as possible, and attack the one farther away from me. sometimes it take a second move and try, but when it works, you can get all of the bunch to stop healing, and hack them one by one without moving or losing undrenaline.

Arangja · Sep 06, 2006, 11:49 AM // 11:49

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Originally Posted by Koning

/jealous

(2 runs yesterday, 0 shards.... must be something about me playing on Europe servers, favor all the time so ppl overfarm spiders....)

Well the best run I had so far was 6 shards in one run and that happened about last week thursday or so. Had 3 shards drop in a row and then the other 3 was about 3 spiders inbetween, if you know what I mean

But my average on a run is about 3 shards, sometimes 2 sometimes 4

Arangja · Sep 06, 2006, 11:53 AM // 11:53

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Originally Posted by foo

Thanks Arengja, just what I was too lazy to type out.

just an addition, when they are bunched up all together, (sometimes I run in, so that all of the ones outside the cave are clumped into one groups), I stand as close to the center as possible, and attack the one farther away from me. sometimes it take a second move and try, but when it works, you can get all of the bunch to stop healing, and hack them one by one without moving or losing undrenaline.

Yea it works well, in the beginning I always used to run out and let them spread out now I move in and just hack them all to pieces, even if they are together or not

I find that once you do that that they might use healing springs once or so but when you are so close to them they focus on trying to attack you and it looks like they forget to use their healing lol

Koning · Sep 06, 2006, 01:33 PM // 13:33

hmm did 2 runs again today, 1 around 12.00 (not many ppl around yet), 1 around 2.30 pm, on both runs only 1 shard.... Thinking that spiders/Anet hates me... (improved personal speed record to 28 min with triple chop w/me build)

foo · Sep 06, 2006, 01:37 PM // 13:37

I've never gotten more then 6 rare matirials, but I have something else to show off;

my new sexy kickass shield!

MirageCloud · Sep 06, 2006, 02:47 PM // 14:47

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Originally Posted by foo

my new sexy kickass shield!

really nice, found it yourself?

foo · Sep 06, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

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Originally Posted by MirageCloud

really nice, found it yourself?

Yeah, on the sell forum.

shadow39365 · Sep 06, 2006, 03:40 PM // 15:40

nice piece of gear foo

as for an axe alternative, Whirling Axe would be nice because you spam it even more quickly now with Frenzy, you could just take a bunch of low charging adrenaline skills.

Also for those of you not getting Many shards at all its probably the Anti-Farm code, you reverse it by completing missions so run Grt North Wall, Riverside, Sanctum, Elona or something, they're brilliant for losing the "flags" which accumulate on your account after farming things. Especially Elona. I usually do one deflag before i go into FoW like an Elona run or something. oh by the way you have to run three different missions before your first one loses you flags again.

We Want Shards

shadow39365 · Sep 06, 2006, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by B§x¿44¶»1@$

Shadow, what interupts do they pack?

just a savage shot, but when you have about 10 of them flying at you at once it isnt pleasant :S

foo · Sep 06, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24

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Originally Posted by shadow39365

nice piece of gear foo

Thanks, if I'll feel smug enough one day, I'll post the whole collection

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Originally Posted by shadow39365

Also for those of you not getting Many shards at all its probably the Anti-Farm code, you reverse it by completing missions so run Grt North Wall, Riverside, Sanctum, Elona or something, they're brilliant for losing the "flags" which accumulate on your account after farming things. Especially Elona. I usually do one deflag before i go into FoW like an Elona run or something. oh by the way you have to run three different missions before your first one loses you flags again.

This is very interesting. I never heard anything so specific. where is this info from? what else can you tell?

Dr Ripley · Sep 06, 2006, 04:27 PM // 16:27

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Originally Posted by shadow39365

oh by the way you have to run three different missions before your first one loses you flags again.

We Want Shards

What does that mean exactly? Is it 3 missions before you can start farming again? Or one?

SirShadowrunner · Sep 06, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by Hand of Ruin

I tried the Dragonslash build yesterday.

Works very nicely, but It's dissapointing to only be seeing 60-70 with maxed sword... I terribly missed my axe on that run.

It has been awhile since I ran an axe build, what kind of damage numbers
are you getting ??? Yesterday I was showing someone how to do this run,
kind of tricky, he was an axe swinger, and I could kill almost two driftwoods
for his one using the Dragon slash build.
Anyone else been getting rubies and sapphires lately, I have been getting one
on almost every run now, hmmm some new use in Nightfall perhaps.
The only bummer about this run is, that if you get one or zero shards then
you could have made more $$ farming vermin, so the shards have to be
there, but the challenge of this run is alot of fun, and I love to aggro the
shadow army into the skales then sit back and watch the fight.

-SirShadowrunner

foo · Sep 06, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by SirShadowrunner

...and I love to aggro the
shadow army into the skales then sit back and watch the fight.

don't sit back. shoot an arrow. you might get a drop

B§x¿44¶»1@$ · Sep 06, 2006, 07:10 PM // 19:10

I've never been touched by a savage shot, but then again, I don't cast...

And not even during my heal sig.

shadow39365 · Sep 06, 2006, 07:14 PM // 19:14

well i'll make a thread and post as much as i know about the anti farming code fellas. i'll post a link when i'm done typing ^^

@ shadowrunner, the damage numbers for axes as i remember are higher than swords in general as every other hit is Whirling Axe, which increases the chance for a Critical hit as well so you will hit a LOT of strikes with a damage bonus which will be critical.

Hand of Ruin · Sep 06, 2006, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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Originally Posted by SirShadowrunner

It has been awhile since I ran an axe build, what kind of damage numbers
are you getting ??? Yesterday I was showing someone how to do this run,
kind of tricky, he was an axe swinger, and I could kill almost two driftwoods
for his one using the Dragon slash build.
Anyone else been getting rubies and sapphires lately, I have been getting one
on almost every run now, hmmm some new use in Nightfall perhaps.
The only bummer about this run is, that if you get one or zero shards then
you could have made more $$ farming vermin, so the shards have to be
there, but the challenge of this run is alot of fun, and I love to aggro the
shadow army into the skales then sit back and watch the fight.

-SirShadowrunner

Well with 14 axe mastery I see alot of 80-90 when I use tripple chop, although you also see 40-50, and then the occasional 100+. Just how it goes with axes, but I definately prefer them over swords. Espescially with maxed axe mastery, as critical hits are much more common and can blow a sword's DPS out of the water.