Curse

joshuarodger · Oct 30, 2008, 09:36 PM // 21:36

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Originally Posted by turbo234

15-20 for shiro alone? in normal mode? without shrines? this definately does not make this guide bullet proof. *pulls out gun*
i did shiro faster than that in hard mode with all of the shrines. and killing shiro first is a pretty dumb strategy. there is just so much wrong with this i think i might just cry.

i've done this mission a lot, NM and HM, there's no problem with killing shiro first. Wild Blow on 2 derv heroes, PI, empathy, and SV. that's all you really need for shiro. this 15-20 minute guide just for killing shiro is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by RavagerX

Bulletproof solution means that you can kill Shiro every time 100% with any combination of h/h. Wiki and most of you suggest using necro skills which my party simply doesn't have. My character is not necro, there are no necro henchmen and there is only one necro hero which I didn't take. I already mentioned having Margrid.

then if you have it, go to GWEN and get livia, or take a mesmer like gwen or norgu, or take an ele with necro skills or take blinding skills or some other anti melee skills. just because you don't have a necro, doesn't mean you can't use any necro skills.

i'm not saying it's easy, it can be a pain in the ass but there are plenty of options to beat it.

Kushiels_Scion · Oct 31, 2008, 12:14 AM // 00:14

Um, this problem I have solved long ago when I need DoA runs with rit. A SS hero, SV hero, Mhenlo, prot, henchy, Painful Bond rit hero with spirits mostly channeling(or a melee hero or devona with wild blow) and my rit herself as ritlord with union, displacement, pain, anguish, LB gaze, and resto rez.

Simple as that... I get masters every time, used to run the mission for 15k each.

The Meth · Oct 31, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

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Originally Posted by Kushiels_Scion

Um, this problem I have solved long ago when I need DoA runs with rit. A SS hero, SV hero, Mhenlo, prot, henchy, Painful Bond rit hero with spirits mostly channeling(or a melee hero or devona with wild blow) and my rit herself as ritlord with union, displacement, pain, anguish, LB gaze, and resto rez.

Simple as that... I get masters every time, used to run the mission for 15k each.

Heh, i used to run as 1 burning arrow ranger, 1 SS hero, 1 monk and 1 rit hero, 4 people being ran at a time for 25k = 100k a run.

tmakinen · Oct 31, 2008, 09:53 AM // 09:53

Any mission can be hard if you are not properly prepared. Forget anti-caster measures and proper flagging in Rilohn Refoge and your team explodes at the end boss. Forget to bring party wide speed boost and fumble the aggro rhythm in Jennur's Horde and you'll either get steamrolled or miss a patrol and get kicked once the NPC dies. Forget speed boost, proper deployment of NPCs and mess up the fighting order in Dzagonur Bastion and kiss your derriere goodbye 'cause you ain't going to see it again.

Herohenching GoM hasn't been an issue to any of my 10 characters (one of each profession). I lock my hero blindbot on Shiro and completely ignore him while wiping the area, then gank him to complete the mission. Master's in Jennur's Horde or Dzagonur Bastion always gives a good workout, GoM doesn't even break a sweat.

Painbringer · Oct 31, 2008, 01:36 PM // 13:36

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Originally Posted by RavagerX

Do you realize that some people don't have other GW packs? I have only Nightfall and like I said, there is only one necro hero which I didn't choose.

This should have been in the original post. You made it sound at least to me that you did not get a necro hero which is possible with what ever path you choose. So Me and I am sure most others assumed the skills where available to you because of the other campaigns.

Warrior is the most criticle position in your team and he must have a stance killer

Blind Bot Elementalist
Mesmer Domination with empathy
Warrior w/ Wild blow Melee with Plague Touch

Zz D Zz · Nov 01, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17

yeaa soz ravager seem to have to agree with everyone in this thread other than yourself lol, it just seems to me as if your having a little distressed moment after failing this mission over n over. i myself am complete fail with h/h and prefer to be solo with friends playing with their heroes because i cant do it on me own, so just go through this thread carefully and pick out the key points people have made.
if you dont have a necro in your team, make use of secondary proffessions, you can go /Me and use empathy or /E for blinding flash? it doesnt really matter how you come to use these skills (as long as u got the attributes for them lol). So there is a way around it mate, just keep having a crack at it!
just to let ya know the first time i tried this mission i failed about 10 times in a row, i had to pay to get the run

so i know how ya feel

trankle · Nov 02, 2008, 06:36 AM // 06:36

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Originally Posted by RavagerX

You are obviously having problem reading and understanding English. I said that I do not have necro in my party and can't use necro skills which are the best for defeating Shiro.

Here is a bulletproof strategy for using Necro skills on any hero:

1. Open the Skill window.

2. Select a hero.

3. Change his secondary profession to Necromancer.

4. Equip Necro skills on that hero.

Now, you don't need to use Necro skills to defeat Shiro, but to say that they are unavailable to you is absolutely false.