Curse

Cormac · Sep 13, 2007, 09:48 AM // 09:48

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Originally Posted by arsie

As for Devona and Big Bird, here's how I figure it happens. They start by trying to run out of some AoE or somesuch. They shout "Charge!" and run much further than they expected. Their goldfish memory kicks in, and they go, ooooo new mobs!

thats a pretty good theory except they don't use "Charge!" as their elite skill in eotn.

when i was doing gwens quests she was kinda running off dieing but then again it was against the charr so it was probably just blind rage

King Kong · Sep 13, 2007, 10:16 AM // 10:16

Me and a guildie was doing a factions mission last night, and Zhed ran off! He even went out of range (name gone gray) then came back about 2mins later with loads running after him

sdrawkcab · Sep 13, 2007, 10:21 AM // 10:21

hench and heroes ruin the game. human players ftw

Darkobra · Sep 13, 2007, 11:17 AM // 11:17

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Originally Posted by sdrawkcab

hench and heroes ruin the game. human players ftw

Human players do the same and actually try to argue back that they know what they're doing. At least hench are SILENT idiots.

Onarik Amrak · Sep 13, 2007, 11:27 AM // 11:27

I haven't taken any Mêlée Henchmen for about a year.

Etta · Sep 13, 2007, 11:37 AM // 11:37

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Originally Posted by sdrawkcab

henches and heroes ruin the game when their AI went wrong. Human players who are in the same guild and friend list ftw

There fixed that for you.

Rizwan · Sep 13, 2007, 12:07 PM // 12:07

same here!
Devona just takes the piss
cklick a monster she run into the mob headfirst

Friday · Sep 13, 2007, 12:15 PM // 12:15

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

Human players do the same and actually try to argue back that they know what they're doing. At least hench are SILENT idiots.

QFT.

At least they don't go AFK or just quit without notice.

At least when they are flagged while I pull they stay there till the pulled mob/monster gets into agro.

AND I can call them all the names in the book!! Without dealing with the injured pride, sulks, downright arrogance and rage-quitting (I know what I'm doing, you #$^%, /ragequit) when I comment on or correct a bad move.

And I can also play without some idiot making up to my char!!!! -.-

Retribution X · Sep 13, 2007, 12:23 PM // 12:23

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Originally Posted by FelixCarter

Welcome to Hard Mode.

Optional? No.

The new guild wars Hard mode! Dumbing down the allies, so it is harder to complete!

I noticed Aiden decided to leeroy last night. bad timing for him. I was really pissed...

Vel · Sep 13, 2007, 12:38 PM // 12:38

The heroes generally get into Leeroy mode if:

1. You CTRL+Click a target and then decide to just attack another without calling it; The heroes will run to the called target if that's in the vicinity. However, if you call another target immediately thereby cancelling the previous call the heroes will follow the lastest call.

2. If you are trying to pull and don't want heroes to attack, flag heroes away from your agro bubble where you decide to pull and settle. Once you have agro get the heroes unleash their fury. If you notice that heroes are running off to attack the mob you are trying to pull, then, you are flagging the heroes too close or the mob is in the vicinity. So, just fall back and choose to pull further back.

Always remember the flag is not a point but a zone. If the heroes are attacking something a little off the flagged position and sometimes even further off the flag position, its simply because it found the monster in the zone.

Hope this helps. And heroes play much better than many human players as they are programmed to do so.

- Vel

Targren · Sep 13, 2007, 01:14 PM // 13:14

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Originally Posted by Vel

The heroes generally get into Leeroy mode if:

1. You CTRL+Click a target and then decide to just attack another without calling it; The heroes will run to the called target if that's in the vicinity. However, if you call another target immediately thereby cancelling the previous call the heroes will follow the lastest call.

That's normal behavior, and used to one's advantage (have H/H tie up the mob while Sin-babe sashimis the Monk).

This isn't that.

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2. If you are trying to pull and don't want heroes to attack, flag heroes away from your agro bubble where you decide to pull and settle. Once you have agro get the heroes unleash their fury. If you notice that heroes are running off to attack the mob you are trying to pull, then, you are flagging the heroes too close or the mob is in the vicinity. So, just fall back and choose to pull further back.

You have a strange definition of "in the vicinity" when the mob is at/beyond the edge of the radar/compass/minimap thing.

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Hope this helps. And heroes play much better than many human players as they are programmed to do so.

Apparently not anymore.

trobinson97 · Sep 13, 2007, 01:25 PM // 13:25

Devona is a lot worse than Talon. She just completely flips sometimes and runs off. I don't even take her anymore and she was my favorite henchie.

Losttoapathy · Sep 13, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34

"Chicken Henchie", "Big Bird"...oh poor Talon is taking some beating. Although slightly belated, I'm only after reading this and finding it somewhat difficult to restrain my laughter. Onto my main point...

I had this problem before GW:EN was released...clearly this has escalated since then. (I don't know, my computer has been broken for a month. -Tear.- ) Anyway, hopefully all will be well by the time I'm back online. In the meantime I'll try not to laugh in public libraries as much.

Big_Iron · Sep 13, 2007, 01:35 PM // 13:35

Let's not forget about Vekk trying to tank. He's the first one to run into a mob when I bring him...so I don't anymore. I think he's trying to overcompensate for something.

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Originally Posted by Losttoapathy

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I had this problem before GW:EN was released...clearly this has escalated since then. (I don't know, my computer has been broken for a month. -Tear.- ) Anyway, hopefully all will be well by the time I'm back online. In the meantime I'll try not to laugh in public libraries as much.

It's gotten much worse since GW:EN. I actually loved H/H AI before. I went back to Tyria and Cantha to get my Protector titles with them and breezed through. Right now, I'd be afraid to take them for a walk in the park.

Losttoapathy · Sep 13, 2007, 01:49 PM // 13:49

You know, I've actually bought the game full well knowing I don't have a computer to play it on. From what I've read it sounds like a hard mode outwith hard mode. Anyway, I'll give the game a try before I knock it. -Silent anticipation.- ^^

pamelf · Sep 13, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07

Devona's always done that in my experience. She's dreadful at aggro.

Targren · Sep 13, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07

I found a strange consistancy in the inconsistant behavior...

Apparently Koss and Stephan (Hero and Henchie) will both ignore monsters already engaged against the party to run out of combat and hunt down the nearest monk-class monster?!

I think somebody tweaked priorities a little bit too high.

Frigus X · Sep 13, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

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Originally Posted by sdrawkcab

hench and heroes ruin the game. human players ftw

At least heroes/henches don't

- Leave the game at random moments
- Call each other n00b
- Have a big ego (ok, there might be some exceptions

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- Afraid to team up with sins/rits/etc
- Complain when giving them a build not listed on any Wiki
- Ping the mini-map/radar like someone on speed
- Draw pictures on the minimap like genitals or little bunnies etc

quickmonty · Sep 13, 2007, 02:21 PM // 14:21

Stopped using Devona a long time ago because of her Leroy mentality. Just yesterday I saw most of my H/H team going nuts in one dungeon. Zho (interupt hench) was acting like a touch ranger, Mhenlo was playing Leroy, Talon was running in and out of battle (big bird is really a chicken?) and sometimes they would not attack the called target. Got so frustrated I had to log out and watch television (ugh) for a while.

yukimura_gw · Sep 13, 2007, 02:31 PM // 14:31

Koss did the same thing to me. >_<

He went on a WAMMO aggroing spree, aggroing
a lot of Charrs on hard mode. -_-