May 29, 2009, 05:43 PM // 17:43
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#21
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Jungle Guide
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I did 40min max using all heroes, 4 discord, 1 E/Rt healer, 1 RoJ. I wouldve gone all discord but my friends account lacks the proper camps. I would either run Dslash or caller and either use armor or essence.
Thing I notice with ppl using discord callers is that some ppl dont take out the right guy first. If the group(s) have a few healers around they may out heal the discord spams and ur caller will hav weak arsenal for a good few seconds.
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Jul 19, 2009, 07:16 PM // 19:16
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#22
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Grotto Attendant
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If you bring minions make sure you give your hero's bloodstained insignia, lack of that insignia will slow you down a LOT.
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Jul 20, 2009, 01:28 AM // 01:28
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#23
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Apr 2005
Profession: N/A
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I have no idea what the problem is.
Discordway utterly destroys this area. You should have nearly 40 minions almost all the time. With my MTVQ discord partner, I always do <30 min with no cons. We've since tweaked the build a bit, including double fall back! heroes, and I believe our record was close to 25 min.
Edit:
Your problem is probably that you are using double callers, which is bad, which also probably means you don't know how to use a caller properly. As a caller, you need to know how to prioritize targets. If you split targets (i.e., call different targets) that defeats the whole purpose and is probably WORSE than H/H! Just go standard ranger and dervish builds.
Double scythers should do the trick beautifully.
Last edited by AtomicMew; Jul 20, 2009 at 01:32 AM // 01:32..
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Jul 21, 2009, 02:48 AM // 02:48
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#24
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Apr 2008
Profession: Me/E
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A discord team needs a good support to bring the best out of them.
The caller should have the ability to spam hexes and conditions almost continuously. Fragility (Hex), You Move Like a Dwalf (condition), Assasin Promise (Hex) and Finish Him (2 conditions) are great skills to use. 'Finish Him' literally is finishing the called target quickly so that your team can move on to the next target.
With Fragility you can dish out extra 34-40 damages on top of 'Finish Him'. The monsters never lived to see the other 34-40 damages recovering from the conditions.
The necro Hex/Enhancement AOEs would drop all monster health to around 150HP by the time you killed 2 to 3 monsters, after that keep using AP and Finish Him to clean up the remaining mob quickly.
Last edited by SaDuFam; Jul 21, 2009 at 02:50 AM // 02:50..
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Jul 21, 2009, 07:20 PM // 19:20
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#25
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Dec 2007
Profession: D/
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Just go DTSC, almost the same amount of faction in <15 minutes.
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Jul 21, 2009, 08:12 PM // 20:12
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#26
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Evrope
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dratyan
Just go DTSC, almost the same amount of faction in <15 minutes.
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Where do ppl gather for DTSC?
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Jul 22, 2009, 12:14 PM // 12:14
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#27
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2009
Guild: Lolrus League [lol]
Profession: A/E
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White Chaos
German or French districts.
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Aug 27, 2009, 01:50 PM // 13:50
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#29
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: USA
Guild: LOVE
Profession: Me/E
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I used to get 33-35 min times without celerity and using sabway + heroes. A few minutes slower also because I open all locked chests and salvage between groups.
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Aug 27, 2009, 11:06 PM // 23:06
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#30
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Spain
Guild: LHV
Profession: R/N
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You should get 35-40 mins VQ with Dway , if you add speed boost that time should be about 30mins. I think thats the only tweak it needs and some PI for Earth Wardens .
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Aug 31, 2009, 08:23 PM // 20:23
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#31
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK
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Quite often when I am doing a discord vanq with a friend I will being a Discorder with /P for fallback as it really speeds things up between groups. You can use GFTE as well. Several other nice things a para can carry that makes your group faster and more effective while still carrying discord
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