Curse

Solette · Jun 05, 2010, 11:21 AM // 11:21

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Originally Posted by omens

PI = Pain inverter, and yes much much quicker than any solo build. The any/sin with 3 monk heroes is about the same speed.

Thanks a lot , works like charm.

Lishy · Jun 05, 2010, 12:37 PM // 12:37

So wait, people can still speedbook after the nerf?

What're the main differences in the builds then? I see quite a big gap in the post dates. For those still running, mind writing a more in-depth guide than the image provided earlier for us retards who easier analyze text?

Myotheraccount · Jun 05, 2010, 03:14 PM // 15:14

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Originally Posted by CE Devilman

if U cant do the backdoor ..well use the front..all U need now is to fight 4 more charr..(3 dots in camp)

Anet has fail'd again. :3

Welthas · Jun 05, 2010, 05:01 PM // 17:01

What about CotB, and ATFH? Is all that still the same?

EDIT: Yeah... I'm going to need a guide too.. party wiped on first group?

flapjack · Jun 05, 2010, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Just run any/sin using paradox with SF and 12 in Shadow arts. take iau and some healing (dc, hos or whatever) with dark escape and stability if you want. then just run it yourself letting the team die (make sure you step around first rez shrine by hugging left wall) then let final nornbear spawn kill you and rez your team. kill him and then rinse repeat etc (same way most of us did it on sin instead of hero ghost running)

ATC can still be slivered but its tough and not as reliable as just running your team out there avoiding most groups (using paragon running skills as per usual) and then just killing the bosses at the end. It adds a little time and on a slow run can border on the amount of time for golem so choose either or both or w/e.

CE Devilman · Jun 05, 2010, 07:17 PM // 19:17

ok...build first..(note its the pve skill if U look it up)

gwen: OQBDAcwzQhQmO9A5ZFgIg8UcQA
(elite skills is 1 sec cooldown after update..dmg ..knockdown...interrupt..Deep Wound)
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Fast_...Casting_skills

necro 1: OAllUwG0haenyEz2DfCEh43HXv3x
(speed..dmg ...interrupt..Deep Wound..)

necro 2: OAlkUwG0haeTMbPM3qD+4ac9eHD
(speed..heal..armor..Deep Wound)

gwen is the key...she can lockdown a small mob.

henc: 2 monk+necro (enegy boost) + any henc.

to the run:

Flag heros to first flag..next (U) map em past the bridge (no need to fight)
( can take a speed boost skill..charr team will do U in.)

flag to the corner and kill the necros..move on and kill the ele.charr mob

run to wall and flag back to agro boss..kill em.
(update from run to the big green dot and kill boss...wall is more safe)

Darkheart · Jun 05, 2010, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by CE Devilman

if U cant do the backdoor ..well use the front..all U need now is to fight 4 more charr..(3 dots in camp)

That's so crazy. That's the exact same way to get past the Char in Saul's story for the bonus mission packs without getting detected.

Hah, funny I noticed that. i was just doing Saul's story last night for Mursaat weapons.

Trader of Secrets · Jun 07, 2010, 12:58 AM // 00:58

thank god i found this, i still got 2 more to max from r7, now just need to create some safe running build for nornbear

Eltic · Jun 09, 2010, 08:11 AM // 08:11

Hello,
I have problem with heroway speedbooking.

Always when i try to do cotn and atc mobs shows up - i use that same flaging point but still mobs shows up :/

CE Devilman · Jun 09, 2010, 05:38 PM // 17:38

update..run for the hill...and let the charr pass...flag heros away and die...more safe..

Eltic..the flagpoint is safe spots so U dont have to fight two mobs..at the same time

azur3 · Jun 11, 2010, 12:05 PM // 12:05

Atc is EXTREMELY annoying atm. Getting to the bosses and dying all the time, heroes are getting wiped by Gordam

Thunder79 · Jun 23, 2010, 09:43 PM // 21:43

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Originally Posted by azur3

Atc is EXTREMELY annoying atm. Getting to the bosses and dying all the time, heroes are getting wiped by Gordam

At most, for me at least, Gordom only manages to spike maybe 1 hench before they kill Harvest...definitely not enough to slow me down. Most of the time I don't need to micromanage my heroes position, but if he starts hitting them hard just spread them out. The hardest part I find about AtC is taking on the Flameshielders, they occasionally will wipe out a good chunk of my H+H.

Use the route off the Hero Speedbook entry on PvXWiki and the build from above...you don't face any Charr until the the Garrison (aside from that first two groups you agro at the bridge to get your H+H through)...very easy run.

Warrior of Orange · Jun 25, 2010, 11:22 PM // 23:22

with the recent nerf, are you guys able to do COTNB HM using heroes? I can't seem to find a way how

CE Devilman · Jun 27, 2010, 02:45 PM // 14:45

Flameshielders..run to this spot an w8 to gwen got a lock on em

yeaaa.. Gordom..set up a shelter and run in

I use this build now.
necro: OAllUwG0haenyEz2D1Bem4vGXv3x
necro: OAlmQIFsBdom3ZMxs9wnIphIE/17dMA
Mesmer : OQhjAwBM4QhQmO9A5ZFgIg8UWPA
henc: 2x monk. necro. ele.
and "fall back" on me.

Nornbear if U cant run it Uself..do G.O.L.E.M.

fredjsquirrel · Jul 03, 2010, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Ok quick question on if Golem is worth adding to the run.

I'm using a discord build and averaging about 22 min. per book.

So if I can do Golem in under 10 min. it would be worth it.

What do people think?

kane zarthrox · Jul 03, 2010, 09:24 AM // 09:24

Someone needs to write a guide... I am so confused on what to do.. or if this even works anymore.

Pirateer · Jul 14, 2010, 06:22 AM // 06:22

I've confirmed CE Devilman's method and I've been able to do AGTC/ATFH/CoTN. The only thing about CoTN is that there is 2 or sometimes 3 more Jotun groups near the end to the last Norn bear pop, but so far if you can time it right when one of those xtra groups comes in, shadowstep to them, rush and then you should be able to get to the rez shrine.

Also Jora and Sif make it a pain in the ass sometimes since they rez whenever they please and they come running to you at the worse time. If you need some ideas or general idea how to do this, here's a Ranger doing AGTC/CoTN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZOLh...=VlqfPk ws-V4