Curse

pve-er · Jan 16, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03

This mission deserve its name, it does driven many people MAD lol.

Captain Arne Is PRO · Jan 17, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

One step guide to defeating the Gates of Madness Mission:

FLASHBOT. GET ONE.

kahn of war · Jan 17, 2007, 06:00 PM // 18:00

It must be said that this mission is well gay >.< 5 days now stuck on it and still no luck lol. Considering giving up the game at this rate.

taffette · Jan 17, 2007, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Hmm, got wiped first time through due to not knowing all those Shiroken would spawn but second time got through relatively easily by following the wiki walkthrough - namely pummeling the Lich into submission before running around the shrines collecting blessings then having one tank and many ranged attackers taking out Shiro. Because there were only 3 humans and the rest were heroes we spaced them out a bit so it was only Koss getting whacked. Seemed to work

erfweiss · Jan 18, 2007, 08:43 AM // 08:43

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Originally Posted by kahn of war

It must be said that this mission is well gay >.< 5 days now stuck on it and still no luck lol. Considering giving up the game at this rate.

Really, giving up over that? Cheer up, it can be done. The things you need to do to know on this mission:
1) Don't bring too many healers. Yes, I know, you're wondering already. However, with too many healers, you can't do enough damage to kill anything.
2) Make sure to bring some support cast. You can't all be nukers, etc.
3) Be smart about what you pull. Since healing is penalized, don't over aggro.

Tonight, I got my 7th different character beyond the Gate of Madness (the other 6 finished the game, couldn't with the Paragon tonight since I had to go to work.

Speaking of Paragons, a command paragon really helped on this one. With maxed command, I was running "Stand your Ground" and "Incoming" at the same time, making the damage from Shiro manageable. Our group was:

A Rit, with 2 monk heros
A ranger, with a Koss hero
Me, with a Koss hero
An SS

Kaida the Heartless · Jan 18, 2007, 10:04 AM // 10:04

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...98#post2454498

A guide I wrote. Little more in dept as far as pointers and tactics go. If you have any questions, post there or contact me ingame and I will help you out as best as I can!

ss1986v2 · Jan 18, 2007, 10:22 AM // 10:22

never understood the problems with this mission. hero/henched it my first time through with a dervish. brought dunk as prot, jin as full interrupt, and zhed as an air/warder, along with the prot hench, the earth hench, the para hench, and i think mhenlo (not sure). heavy on the healing i know, but no one died so whatever. and i guess i did it backwards from what everyone else seems to do too. i pulled shiro out of the arena, pinned him against a corner, and just blasted him with the focused fire of the party, using wild blow to break his stance. then i ran in and blasted the lich in about 30 seconds. i think my way took longer than some others methods (think it took a couple of minutes of focus fire to drop shiro) but no one died and i didnt have to worry about human players.

Str0b0 · Jan 19, 2007, 06:51 AM // 06:51

Shiro isn't bad at all so long as you have a means to kep him blinded. Again I'm pimping EDA, hands down my favorite dervish elite. I laid into his ass with it and my group destroyed him in no time flat. He got a couple of lucky hits in it but once I had joined combat with him and kept on him he never got the blind off long enough to do any real damage. The problem is, if you take the blinding route, that he can transfer that condition to your party, but if you can keep it on him then this shouldn't be a problem since he has to actually hit someone to transfer the condition.

erfweiss · Jan 19, 2007, 08:29 AM // 08:29

I had a discussion with the rit from my game yesterday. When he brought his mesmer thru, Signet of Midnight apparantly worked EXTREMELY well against Shiro. Just a little FYI.

Seef II · Jan 19, 2007, 09:20 AM // 09:20

Round 2: built Norgu as anti-Shiro (should've had WW, hmm!), turned Olias into a Spoil Victor bot instead of an MM, and had Melonni along for Wild Blow. I ran a simple sword build with Wild Blow, Barbarous Slice, Charge, and Gash, as I wouldn't be in a stance.

After cleaning out the rifts, I couldn't aggro the Lich, and Shiro was itching for a fight, so I had to kill him first. He really is no threat until Impossible Odds is activated. When he did hit 25% he took out Melonni really quickly (I was down to about ~100 HP) and the rest of the party was badly bruised.

Tip: since Shiro has a limit to his aggro range, pull out if you're going down, and regen up. That's what I did. I kept the AI back and tanked Shiro until he died with a mighty mighty 34-damage Gash.

SpotJorge · Jan 24, 2007, 11:19 AM // 11:19

I think peeps are wasting time trying to help guys do this mission, in nextmonth they will be here saying again that they cant do mission and reason for that is simple.

They dont really have a clue how to use skills in game or setup theyr character and heros, like a monk i tryed to help as warrior and first thing he did was call me noob because my warrior was without mending on skill bar, problably this guy is still on gate of madness trying to get a party to join.

Peeps that have start GW in Nighfall are with serious problems because game is easily done with heros and henchs and they never had the experience of do FoW, SF, Rotscale, Glint, Underworld, Deep or Urgoz, my advise to this guys is go wiki and read a lot on skills and builds section, ive see more then 20 builds post on this post that were enough for 2 shiros on same mission and honestly if you think this shiro is hard try to go factions and face it on last mission, or try to get Linch on Gate of abadon

Cebe · Jan 24, 2007, 11:36 AM // 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpotJorge

first thing he did was call me noob because my warrior was without mending on skill bar

This made me LMAO!

Quote:

Originally Posted by erfweiss

Speaking of Paragons, a command paragon really helped on this one. With maxed command, I was running "Stand your Ground" and "Incoming" at the same time, making the damage from Shiro manageable.

I run these two skills and they are totally awesome.

Meo Yeong · Jan 25, 2007, 02:13 PM // 14:13

I have never really had a problem with shiro in nf and I do it with a hero/hench group though.

I always bring a war, mesmer and necro hero though with the 2 monk henchies. Then depending on what class I am I pick the others. Usually a dervish and devona or something else that isnt mass dmg.

This is the builds I use to get thru

Mesmer
Norgu or Masters of whispers
Signet of midnight, cry of frustration, signet of disruption, leech signet, power spike, power drain, complicate, empathy

Necro/monk
Spiteful spirit, insidious parasite, price of failure, parasitic bond, draw conditions, remove hex, res sig, resurect

necro can be changed but keep ss

Also spirit of failure will dmg when norgu/whisper blinds him

Spoil of victor works too

War henchie sword
Coward, wild blow, sever artery, final thrust, healing signet, watch yourself, endure pain, res sig

War axe
Furious axe, critical chop, eviserate, disrupting chop, wild blow, watch yourself, endure pain. Res sig

Paragon
Visious attack, merciless spear, barbed spear, aria of restoration, stand your ground, incoming, fall back , res sig

Notes: have a paragon, mesmer, 2 war, necro, 2 monks, dervish

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strategy.. as for the portals take out the portal wraiths always first. There is actually a timing to that whole place and it makes it very simple. I do portal to right when I first come in then the then i pull the two titans while standing at left wall. Then I take out left wall portal. Then you go back to the right and take out the portal that was behind the first one. Then you wait until the bigger titan does his ptrol and you pull him to where you just took out the last portal. Once he down go in for portal on right by gate and then go do the left portal and you done.

Now for the Lich and shiro what I do is use Fallback and run to the first shrine to the right and kill those mobs then I take out lich. Once lich is done keep using fallback and heal and run to each shrine. With that shiro will also stay behind for a bit in the middle until he comes after you again. Once all shrines are done let shiro have it. You may not have a paragon so charge will work but then ya dont have the healing and that healing is nice as you are running away.

Kelly G · Jan 30, 2007, 12:50 AM // 00:50

This is a very tough mission, yet very manageable, especially if you use the guide from Guildwiki:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Gate_of..._%28Mission%29

I found it much easier using henchies/heroes with this guide...with pugs I ran into alot of trouble with unnecessary agro, and improper targeting. With proper focus and targeting it's completely doable. Abaddon was a breeze after this one...

Snype · Jan 30, 2007, 02:56 AM // 02:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpotJorge

I think peeps are wasting time trying to help guys do this mission, in nextmonth they will be here saying again that they cant do mission and reason for that is simple.

They dont really have a clue how to use skills in game or setup theyr character and heros, like a monk i tryed to help as warrior and first thing he did was call me noob because my warrior was without mending on skill bar, problably this guy is still on gate of madness trying to get a party to join.

Peeps that have start GW in Nighfall are with serious problems because game is easily done with heros and henchs and they never had the experience of do FoW, SF, Rotscale, Glint, Underworld, Deep or Urgoz, my advise to this guys is go wiki and read a lot on skills and builds section, ive see more then 20 builds post on this post that were enough for 2 shiros on same mission and honestly if you think this shiro is hard try to go factions and face it on last mission, or try to get Linch on Gate of abadon

Instead of being such an a**hole you should just not even post. I mean if helping us is such a waste of time then what are you doing even in this thread? I really don't need your negative comments.

Thanks

pve-er · Jan 30, 2007, 04:32 AM // 04:32

What can I say? their are so many who may or may not be that good but given mean talk to those who willing to learn and try to be good.

these Noob-caller love talk people downto feel superior. I am sick of them. maybe it is time for the community to boycott and ignore these people so they will quit and go talk people down in other places.

spacemodulators · Apr 12, 2007, 01:21 AM // 01:21

OK I am an old dude who has done this quest about 100 time and failed each and every time. I got CLOSE tonight with Koss/Master/Dunkoro/Devona/Sogolon/Kihm/Eve, but still got spanked by Shiro. This is my main character (my only 20) and I only have 4 elite skills. I spent a lot of my ching on full 15K armor and am giving my heroes gold weapons if I have them for their respective classes. Tonight I SOMEHOW pulled the Lich solo and kicked his hiney fast, but Shiro....I can only get him to about 1/3 of his hp's and then he just beats us down. Anyone have any OTHER helpful hint other than what is posted already? I am going to scream if I don't beat this mission. (I can only imagine the one after this one...sigh)

Corinthian · Apr 12, 2007, 09:45 AM // 09:45

For me he always double strikes everyone for 200 + 200 damage and that pretty much wipes the whole party, blind or not. Even his standard attacks deal 100+ damage.

Meo Yeong · Apr 12, 2007, 12:09 PM // 12:09

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Originally Posted by spacemodulators

OK I am an old dude who has done this quest about 100 time and failed each and every time. I got CLOSE tonight with Koss/Master/Dunkoro/Devona/Sogolon/Kihm/Eve, but still got spanked by Shiro. This is my main character (my only 20) and I only have 4 elite skills. I spent a lot of my ching on full 15K armor and am giving my heroes gold weapons if I have them for their respective classes. Tonight I SOMEHOW pulled the Lich solo and kicked his hiney fast, but Shiro....I can only get him to about 1/3 of his hp's and then he just beats us down. Anyone have any OTHER helpful hint other than what is posted already? I am going to scream if I don't beat this mission. (I can only imagine the one after this one...sigh)

kill lich, take over shrines , then do shiro.

If that dont work get some people in a group and go do it that do have the necessary skills. I posted a few threads above how to beat this easily.

spacemodulators · Apr 12, 2007, 02:18 PM // 14:18

Ok....FINALLY did it. BONJELA's plan works well. I just didn't have the correct combination of heroes and henchies. I used Zhed/Koss/Dunkoro/Kihm/Devona/Sogolon/Eve. I am a Monk/Warrior and tanked with Koss and Devona to the bosses. Then just follow Bonjela's directions. Place Koss at the door way and hope your monks can keep up with the damage. I went defensive and helped keep Koss and Devona alive. The key is don't put the remainder of your group too close to combat or you are toast.