Curse

Painbringer · Sep 18, 2007, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Finished this last night took me as a touch blood necro and 2 touch ranger Heroes. I had another monk set as protection tried to get him to bond us but it did not work? Could not kill the worm until the worm spawned by the dwarf. Luckily I had a candy cane for myself and I bonded a key to drop the keg. I blasted the worm to death, and I was the last man standing. The rest of my meat puppets died.

Also took my team with no changes to builds to the next mission and we touched the destroyers to death. Awesome

Susan Katz · Oct 22, 2007, 05:12 AM // 05:12

I've been several times with just henchies/heros, or only 1 other human, with little problem--the key is to spread your team out (more than the distance from you to the edge of your aggro circle). You might loose one or two, but the mission is not so bad (in normal mode, mind you!)

gloria vander belt · Oct 22, 2007, 05:29 AM // 05:29

well i set my warrior as Grenths balnce tank(slightly modified), had 1 monk hero and 2 MM's hero(wouldnt recomend), 1 henchie monk, 1 henchie tank, 1 henchie ele, and 1 henchie mesmer, and just flagged them right above him ran back and forwards to get bombs(not letting myself be healed) once i removed his armor i n=made him bleed, then GB'd him and let myself get lower then his halfway of life GB'd him again did the bombs made him bleed put a deep gash in him and he died, then did practically the same thing when running my ranger guildie, except i got the ranger guildie to do the bombing, and not either of them 2 times i died at all

Hyper Cutter · Oct 22, 2007, 06:08 AM // 06:08

You can hide against a wall (the mouth of the tunnel that exits into Cyndr's chamber) and have a ranger plink away at him with arrows and poison. It can be done at 60% dp, and with H+H. Just keep trying until you get him to spawn next to Budger.

It's nice when the damn terrain works for you for once...

Trueslash Noobfoot · Oct 22, 2007, 02:15 PM // 14:15

:S I am well and truly stuck. Can anyone help me out?

IGN: Monster Expert

Pick Me · Oct 22, 2007, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Me: Mo/E
Guildie: W/E
Heros: three monks (smite, heal, protect), dervish (Melandru), SS, Vek Hydromancer.

We had 1 party wipe getting to Cynder. We flagged the heros at the mouth of Cynder's lair and both guildie and myself took a ket and ran towards Cynder. The monks protected both of us and once the last keg dropped (we picked up one more each), we unflagged the heros and crushed him.

No one died, except Cynder. Ne never had a chance to even recover in time.

Trueslash Noobfoot · Oct 22, 2007, 02:50 PM // 14:50

W/E obsidian flesh tank? o_O

Mohnzh · Oct 31, 2007, 04:46 PM // 16:46

Sorry to resurrect this, I know everyone is probably sick of it. I just want to get some clarification on a few points.

A lot of these threads have people posting about how to beat this boss, saying that it is SO easy, but most of them beat it before all the nerfs. So I want to ask a few key points:

1) Does life stealing still work with his carapace still up, and if so would it be a good idea to go in with 3 life stealing heroes?

2) Do any degens work with his carapace up (hexes, poison, etc.)?

3) Is the keg spam nerfed?

4) Are touch rangers still effective while his carapce is up?

5) If you want to H/H this and your primary is a monk, should you attempt to remove the carapace or go another route?

Thanks ya'll.

Tyla · Oct 31, 2007, 05:29 PM // 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohnzh

Sorry to resurrect this, I know everyone is probably sick of it. I just want to get some clarification on a few points.

A lot of these threads have people posting about how to beat this boss, saying that it is SO easy, but most of them beat it before all the nerfs. So I want to ask a few key points:

1) Does life stealing still work with his carapace still up, and if so would it be a good idea to go in with 3 life stealing heroes?

2) Do any degens work with his carapace up (hexes, poison, etc.)?

3) Is the keg spam nerfed?

4) Are touch rangers still effective while his carapce is up?

5) If you want to H/H this and your primary is a monk, should you attempt to remove the carapace or go another route?

Thanks ya'll.

3)nerfed to hell because of cynder runners

KIDGOOCH · Oct 31, 2007, 05:45 PM // 17:45

I did this last night using Sab's triple necro build. Me (P/W para support), three necros heroes, and Herta, the two monks and one of the warriors.
Took 27 min start to finish with no deaths.

Mohnzh · Oct 31, 2007, 09:24 PM // 21:24

Nope, Sab's triple necro didn't work for me. I party wiped before I had a chance to target him. Maybe I just got unlucky. He spawned right underneath us. Why is this so easy for everyone else? What am I doing wrong? Is it because as a monk I cannot get any barrels to him? After I party wiped I was able to bring down his carapace, and we got him down to half health, but by the time I even got one barrell to him at his next spot he was full health.

**Marty Silverblade** · Oct 31, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51

I did this with a Warrior about a week ago, and I didn't find it too hard. Just prioritise blowing off his carapace and dealing craploads of damage to him while vunerable. He's actually quite weak without his carapace, so you'll only need to blow it off twice (3 times if you're unlucky or have weak damage dealers.)

Quaker · Oct 31, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22

One tactic I used (H&H) which may help (rather than completely revamping your party, skills etc.) is to use the individual flags to position your heroes around him, spaced far enough apart - like, one on the left, one on the right and one in middle. Either use the main flag to position the rest near enough so the healers can keep your heroes alive, or just let them run around after you, like I did. Then run back and forth from the powder guy until his armor goes down.

Chthon · Nov 01, 2007, 01:22 AM // 01:22

Did this the other day by just tanking him with a wammo and it was remarkably, remarkably easy. Almost as easy as SV was before it was nerfed. Just flagged the heroes back for a minute while I ran in, then sat there and swung away while Cynder bit me and one of my two live teammates ran kegs. The monk had little trouble healing me since no one else was taking any damage.

blue.rellik · Nov 01, 2007, 04:13 AM // 04:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trueslash Noobfoot

W/E obsidian flesh tank? o_O

Please do not say that again

Mohnzh · Nov 01, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40

All of those are great suggestions...if you are not a monk. Is it possible to HH this being a monk? Maybe I'm on at the wrong time (evenings CDT), but I can never find a single person doing the quest to party with.

Sheriff · Nov 01, 2007, 04:41 PM // 16:41

Just guessing here since I've never done the quest with a monk, but you might be able to play as a bonder, bond a few of your heroes/henchies and stay on a safe place while your condition/hexes H+Hs deal with it

Mohnzh · Nov 01, 2007, 05:16 PM // 17:16

You can't hex or condition him to death anymore, right?

Sheriff · Nov 01, 2007, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Not sure if you can kill Cyndr just with conditions/degen hexes - but they certainly help.

I've never tried Pain Inverter on it but since it works on most other bosses, it's possibly a good solution for Cyndr as well?

Mohnzh · Nov 01, 2007, 05:50 PM // 17:50

Pain Inverter is also nerfed against Cyndr until the carapace is down. I think only life stealing works against him until carapace is down, but I usually party wipe two or three times before I can get it down because I am a monk

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