Curse

sadrobot · May 16, 2005, 03:09 AM // 03:09

i have my lvl 10 N/W with a 14-20dmg sword a 6def shield and full fanatic set. up until now i have 8 points into swordmanship and the rest into blood. usually i just use sever artery and vampiric touch maybe a blood well or blood renual in there but i find myself dieing a lot more (im in yaks bend) any suggestions? i just dont know if N/W was a good choice now....do i just lack good spells or what?

primal98 · May 16, 2005, 03:14 AM // 03:14

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Originally Posted by sadrobot

i have my lvl 10 N/W with a 14-20dmg sword a 6def shield and full fanatic set. up until now i have 8 points into swordmanship and the rest into blood. usually i just use sever artery and vampiric touch maybe a blood well or blood renual in there but i find myself dieing a lot more (im in yaks bend) any suggestions? i just dont know if N/W was a good choice now....do i just lack good spells or what?

Are you using and frenzy? I play a similair build, but mine is axe

I found myself dying A LOT .... and then I realized it was frenzy.... that extra damage >_<

sadrobot · May 16, 2005, 03:20 AM // 03:20

i do rarely but not often at all unless i am not getting hit

Kadeton · May 16, 2005, 03:52 AM // 03:52

Use Life Siphon. It's pretty quick to cast, so just put it on every enemy you can. The regen will help keep you alive much better than just using Vampiric Touch.

sadrobot · May 16, 2005, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by Kadeton

Use Life Siphon. It's pretty quick to cast, so just put it on every enemy you can. The regen will help keep you alive much better than just using Vampiric Touch.

alright ill try that

ginetti · May 16, 2005, 05:16 AM // 05:16

i have the EXACT same build.

I die alot untill i discovered that you've got to really use life siphon, then use the one skill that you loose 33% max health but regen for an additional +3 and then instanly vampiric gaze (less energy than vampiric touch but more efficent) then enemy should be engaging you in combat.

So it goes like this.

Enemy walking around (say group of 3)

Life Siphon (you get +2 regen) then use the sacrifice (Loose around 100 hp but gain regen +3 for a total of +3 now) then use vampiric gaze to retake some of your lost health healing around 40 approx ... By now enemy should be just engaging you.

Use your warrior abilities as your adrenalin, and as your sacrifce ends, you are hit with a +100 to your health.

Insta cast the sacrifice again, use vampric gaze, and Life siphon should just be ending, use it on the mob with most health, and finish off your current enemy.

As soon as a corpse drops, use well of blood.

ROAW

with 12 blood, it turns into:
LIFE SIPHON: +3 Regen, SACRIFICE +3 REGEN loose around 100+ Health. VAMP GAZE Gain about 40 Health.

Drop Enemy: Use Well of Blood gaining +5 REGEN, RE-Apply LIFE SIPHON for a total of +8 Regening on you.

YOU ARE GOD NOW (Warriors cant do this, not enough energy, very VERY slow energy regen.)

Oh yeah, and when sacrifice ends, you get hit with 100+ Health boost just as over kill... Muahahaha.

blackEyEz · May 16, 2005, 08:38 AM // 08:38

I myself am a N/W too of level 15 now and I use a hammer. What do you guys think of these 3 templates?

Minion master (def):
1 Necrotic Traversal
2 Animate Bone Horror
3 Well of blood
4 Blood of the Master
5 Taste of Death
6 Sprint
7 Bonetti's Defense
8 Resurrection Signet

Mixed:
1 Life Siphon
2 Vampire Touch
3 Animate Bone Horror
4 Blood of the Master
5 Taste of Death
6 Belly Smash
7 Staggering Blow
8 Resurrection Signet

Hammertime (off):
1 Life Siphon
2 Vampire Touch
3 Well of Blood
4 Animate Bone Horror
5 Frenzy
6 Belly Smash
7 Staggering Blow
8 Resurrection Signet

rfire · May 16, 2005, 11:14 AM // 11:14

I started a n/w also with a similar build but have been throwing some death magic in there as well. Not really for any specific reason yet but just learning some skills.

This char is mainly going to be PvE just to help get some skills unlocked. Is there any real PvE (solo/henchmen in many non-mission cases) or should I be ok just going blood/swords? I really haven't been impressed with minions so far,and it looks like the AI could cause more problems than it helps sometimes.

How about some remaining points into reaping or tactics?

apollo92 · May 16, 2005, 12:11 PM // 12:11

used a n/w during most of the bwe's and just started using him again recently during retail. I decided to try out axes for the extra damage (although sometimes inconsistent) and it works out really well. I'm more of an anti-physical dmg build since i've got plenty anti casters in my guild

my most used pvp build:

Dismember
Axe Rake
Disrupting Chop
Vampiric Gaze
Life Siphon
Insidious Parasite
Shadow of fear
Well of Blood

my attributes i think are around

12 blood
10 curse
10 axe

using runes for blood/curses

for pve

i usually go with

executioners strike
cyclone axe
penetrating blow/disrupting chop
vampiric gaze
life siphon
enfeeble
shadow of fear
well of blood

key is to get your first target as fast as possible then bathe in the goodness that well of blood gives you

kalaris · May 16, 2005, 01:55 PM // 13:55

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Originally Posted by Kadeton

Use Life Siphon. It's pretty quick to cast, so just put it on every enemy you can. The regen will help keep you alive much better than just using Vampiric Touch.

use life siphon on everyone, you can have up to 10 pips of regen (20hp/s)

chpmmttn · May 17, 2005, 03:28 PM // 15:28

I've been doing alot of soloing with a W/N, level 14 currently, so maybe some of the things I've come across will be useful.

I decided to use curses instead of blood. You get more crowd control this way which I find useful.

For healing I use Parasitic Bond. If I hit a few targets with it (at 5 energy I can easily do this with the low energy pool) I'll get the health back later in the fight when I'll need it instead of wasting health regeneration when I still have full life. Also If I kill the target that I just cast it on I get the health back instead of just loosing the regeneration. This makes it useful if you can time it right and cast it on something you are about to kill. Instant health. When I get to where there are things that remove hexes this might not be as useful since I doubt I get the health when the hex is removed.

Looking quickly at the descriptions with the best numbers life siphon will be giving you 132 health and causing 132 damage over 22 seconds for 10 energy. Parasitic Bond will give you 102 health and cause 40 damage over 20 seconds for 5 energy, with the life coming at the end of the twenty seconds or when the target dies. Since this is my healing spell and not meant for damage dealing, Parasitic Bond, with it's lower cost is definetly the right choice for me. I just need to plan ahead and cast it before I need the health.

If they clump together when attacking a useful combo is Mark of Pain and then Frenzy with a fast attacking weapon. Just make sure that you don't have too many degens on the mark of pain target or it might die too soon. The double damage you'll be taking can get dangerous but you can hopefully drop the entire group very fast. For a N/W this would probably be even more dangerous, but if you can make sure you are getting enough health back or you aren't what they are attacking I'm sure it would work well. Another skill could easily replace Frenzy if you have something that increases your attack speed without the double damage. I'm personally hoping to find Flurry soon.

Those are the only things that really make use of both the warrior and necromancer side of things. I have also been using Suffering and Insidious Parasite for specific circumstances (drawing a bunched mob and single targets) as well as some sword skills.

I'm nowhere near the end of this game and I only have a handful of skills, so I'm sure there are ways to get better results. And this is more for the W/N where the issue is more of the lack of energy than life.