Curse

Divinity · Jun 21, 2005, 10:54 PM // 22:54

....Air ele as a PvP pre-made template.

Ogg · Jun 22, 2005, 01:54 PM // 13:54

A build which doesn't require any skill to use.

Theres already one of those, I seriously hope there won't be second.

Louis Ste Colombe · Jun 22, 2005, 02:15 PM // 14:15

Why not?

At least many people would stop complaining that they have to grind to build it...

+1 vote for a premade Air Ele spike build

Louis,

FrogDevourer · Jun 22, 2005, 02:24 PM // 14:24

Worst nightmare? Being in a PuG with players using templates.

stumpy · Jun 22, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49

worst nightmare 1 ... also being in a pug

worst nightmare 2 ... being in a pug with a leader who doesnt have the patience to discuss your teams strategy before jumping into battle

worst nightmare 3 ... being in a pug with a leader who wont discuss the strategy before game who plays a W/Mo

worst nightmare 4 ... being in a pug with a leader who wont discuss the strategy before game who plays a W/Mo and forgets to put res in his bar while Korea has the favour at 2 am pacific standard time

DAY DREAM .... anything not listed above

grimmolly · Jun 22, 2005, 04:41 PM // 16:41

worst nightmare came true last night... pickup prot monk in our team decided to cast rebirth on the first character who got spiked while the rest of the team needed protection. When I said don't bring rez, I shouldn't also have to say don't bring vengeance, don't bring unyielding aura, don't bring res signet, don't bring restore life, don't bring light of dwayna, and don't bring godawful rebirth.

rii · Jun 22, 2005, 04:43 PM // 16:43

Why do people have such a problem with wa/mo. They dont suck. The people who play them are just usually incompetent....
air ele pre made wouldnt really make a difference, most people who use em will have ascended pve characters by now, and some of those templates are alright

*waits for head to be cut off* (with a few adjustments).

Alodarn · Jun 22, 2005, 04:56 PM // 16:56

Worst Nightmare : finding out your wa/mo is called leeeeroooy seconds from finishing the mission and he trains the group with 59 mursat.

Ollj · Jun 22, 2005, 06:14 PM // 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divinity

....Air ele as a PvP pre-made template.

lol.

hope youre kidding.

my mesmer eats thoose for breakfast, and hes not premade pvp , not even a minor vigor.

kungfumonkey2 · Jun 22, 2005, 06:29 PM // 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ollj

lol.

hope youre kidding.

my mesmer eats thoose for breakfast, and hes not premade pvp , not even a minor vigor.

Really?! A mesmer can beat a caster? I never knew! This whole time I thought Air Elem's were GODS.

Ollj,
Isn't the topic about a premade PvP character? And then maybe your worst nightmare? Not how Awesomely Super Sonic Hyper Omega Leet Excellent of a player you are.

Sure go ahead and make a Premade Spiker. Then watch all the WaMo's become spikers. I love when someone spams "Experienced Paladin LFG." Spikers are not what I fear, because few PUGs have the coordination to pull it off. You will just see a lot more Spikers, and the build will become obsolete. It kinda already is. Spirit spamming is now the new in thing.

rii · Jun 22, 2005, 10:23 PM // 22:23

yes but it sucks^^

the fotm air ele was quite good. no disrespect to the creators (kansas) but its just not that good.

βlitzkrieg · Jun 22, 2005, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Yeah it's useless 'coz you get no good skills for free...

Red Locust · Jun 22, 2005, 11:13 PM // 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ollj

lol.

hope youre kidding.

my mesmer eats thoose for breakfast, and hes not premade pvp , not even a minor vigor.

lol. as soon as you get called and spiked, you can say goodbye to your mesmer, unless you can stop 3 eles from lightning surge/orb'ing you.

Tuna · Jun 23, 2005, 01:37 AM // 01:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by rii

yes but it sucks^^

the fotm air ele was quite good. no disrespect to the creators (kansas) but its just not that good.

I would hesitate to lable anyone the 'creator' of air spike fotm.

To the subject of the post: It doesn't really matter, air spike is just as hard/easy to both execute and counter as any other build.

Firestreak · Jun 23, 2005, 02:28 AM // 02:28

I think my worse nightmare is having a teamspeak battle where people actually try to pronounce the Korean names.

hydrak · Jun 23, 2005, 06:16 AM // 06:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Locust

lol. as soon as you get called and spiked, you can say goodbye to your mesmer, unless you can stop 3 eles from lightning surge/orb'ing you.

3 air eles are scary even in the hands of newbies, but they are also easy to counter even in the hands of pros.

3 earth eles, on the other hands, are very tough to counter when played by people who know what they are doing. I've only seen one really tough earth group, and they are by far tougher than the toughest air group I've seen.

Tuna · Jun 23, 2005, 07:47 AM // 07:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrak

3 air eles are scary even in the hands of newbies, but they are also easy to counter even in the hands of pros.

3 earth eles, on the other hands, are very tough to counter when played by people who know what they are doing. I've only seen one really tough earth group, and they are by far tougher than the toughest air group I've seen.

I used to play an earth ele in my guilds GvG build untill we realized that its just as easily counterable as lightning spike. The only difference is earth can do more damage at once. It does not however, make a difference when they are using prot spirit

corax5 · Jun 23, 2005, 04:21 PM // 16:21

I think all you guys who seem to have something against Air Eles are just annoyed because you cant kill them or something, if a build works, then good, and if people want to use it, good as long as it works. Just because something is "pre-made" also doesn't make it a bad built, it just means its not the best.

hydrak · Jun 23, 2005, 04:24 PM // 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuna

I used to play an earth ele in my guilds GvG build untill we realized that its just as easily counterable as lightning spike. The only difference is earth can do more damage at once. It does not however, make a difference when they are using prot spirit

Earth has strong long-range spike in obsidian flame and strong short-range in crystal wave, much stronger than any lightning spell.

Most earth eles our group (which has 3 rangers, 2 monks and 3 air eles) has seen aren't good until we faced this group with something like 3 or 4 earth eles, and they dealt us. They got into our spirit range, they make us move so slow with their wards. Then the next thing, we're dead.

stumpy · Jun 23, 2005, 06:26 PM // 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by rii

Why do people have such a problem with wa/mo. They dont suck. The people who play them are just usually incompetent....
air ele pre made wouldnt really make a difference, most people who use em will have ascended pve characters by now, and some of those templates are alright

*waits for head to be cut off* (with a few adjustments).

I agree ... and 90% of anyone whose in random pickups that dont have any strategy are going to play the Wa/Mo horribly. Its just common sense. I don't personally mean to throw all of the decent paladins I have played with into the noob group, but its a crowded market with many amatuers and many debuffs/hexes that render Wa/Mo useless ...

we are all just cycling through the many flavours ... soon enough the cards will fall into place and balance restored.