Curse

jopapa1267 · Jul 19, 2005, 08:38 PM // 20:38

I looked around the forum but i couldnt find anything on HOW to create tons of bone horror, fiends or whatever before the match starts. How do you do it? Thanks in advance

theclam · Jul 19, 2005, 08:52 PM // 20:52

1 guy with Blood is Power.
1 guy with Animate Bone X.
1 guy with Unyielding Aura and Vengeance.

First guy casts Blood is Power 4 times, killing himself.
Second guy uses Animate Bone X.
Third guy uses Vengeance.
First guy casts Blood is Power 4 times.
Second guy uses Animate Bone X.
Third guy casts Unyielding Aura
First guy casts Blood is Power 4 times or third guy stops maintaining Unyielding Aura (I like the BiP approach better because it gives mana).
Second guy uses Animate Bone X.
etc.

This is the basic combo. You'll also need some way to keep your summons alive. It also helps if the third guy has some way of bypassing the cooldown of Unyielding Aura and Vengeance (Serpent's Quickness, Mantra of Recovery, Echo, Arcane Echo, etc).

Kriegar · Jul 19, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Err... do not use Unyielding or Vengeance. Fast cast rezmer is much more efficient. Sac necro can BiP both the minion necro and the rezmer with each rez.

Acan Vishnu · Jul 19, 2005, 09:11 PM // 21:11

It has its pros and cons -- Unyielding and Vengeance won't cause any more DP after the first 15%

jopapa1267 · Jul 20, 2005, 01:41 PM // 13:41

hmmm, what should i make?fiends, horrors or minnions?

gou · Jul 20, 2005, 06:51 PM // 18:51

last time i checked its impossible to "sacrifice" yourself dead, you get stuck on 1 health, to actually kill yourself you would need to take a skill like chillblains to give youself poison (or that signet that gives you bleeding)

Nightsorrow · Jul 20, 2005, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by gou

last time i checked its impossible to "sacrifice" yourself dead, you get stuck on 1 health, to actually kill yourself you would need to take a skill like chillblains to give youself poison (or that signet that gives you bleeding)

Not true, you can easily sacrifice yourself to death. Add Awaken the Blood to sacrifice more life with each casting of BiP.

stumpy · Jul 20, 2005, 07:49 PM // 19:49

dont even need awaken the blood ...

sac necros - I have played one before - would know this. So any who have actually played please help answer the OP inquiries. I usually works weel with numerous necros on a team if your gonna minions mob teams.

Unyeilding aura is a fabolous enchantment because you no longer have to sac yourself ... just up - dead - up - dead - up - dead ... we often bring unyeilding aura on missions to keep players in line.

BiP to sac ... then when up give the minion masters a BiP then drop sacrificial necro again, and rinse and repeat ... we made it to HoH with this build a few times ... but same situation we have died in is ... when rushed by a team before we can sac fast enough we are at a disadvantage

Fire Of Duragon · Jul 20, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54

How many minnions we talking here?

supertramp · Jul 21, 2005, 07:22 PM // 19:22

The basic thing is to kill lotsa monsters. then animate bones to all of them. Im just a noob, so dont listen to me.

Excer · Jul 21, 2005, 08:30 PM // 20:30

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Originally Posted by Acan Vishnu

It has its pros and cons -- Unyielding and Vengeance won't cause any more DP after the first 15%

actually, the point is that you WANT dp, since it makes killing urself that much faster

Mercury Angel · Jul 21, 2005, 09:27 PM // 21:27

Killing on a percentage isn't any faster with less max health, and you don't get more DP past 15% regardless of what method you use, because if you kill yourself fast enough, you don't get DP.

Acan Vishnu · Jul 21, 2005, 09:34 PM // 21:34

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Originally Posted by Excer

actually, the point is that you WANT dp, since it makes killing urself that much faster

You are joking, right? (I assume that that is what the smiley is about.)

But, just in case... you have to cast BiP 4 times to commit suicide at 15% DP. At 60% DP you have to cast BiP 4 times. Percentages are fun, eh?

JoDiamonds · Jul 22, 2005, 05:15 PM // 17:15

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Originally Posted by Acan Vishnu

It has its pros and cons -- Unyielding and Vengeance won't cause any more DP after the first 15%

If you die fast enough, you don't gain more DP anyway. I believe it's 10 seconds -- if you die within ten seconds of being ressurected, you don't gain any more Death Penalty.

If someone uses a ressurection that doesn't fully heal (i.e.: mesmer fast rezzer), you can easily do that, since you can kill yourself with only a couple castings of Blood is Power.

jopapa1267 · Aug 03, 2005, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Did they patch this? I tried doing it in HoH recently and the suicide necro could only kill himself once. He kept using blood is power and it only got him down to 1 health. The first time he did it, it was fine but the second time he couldnt get himself past 1 heath. 2 weeks before this was working fine and i was getting like 30 fiends.

****edit****
anyone want to test it out again with me? it may have been a glitch or something. my ign is ooom mooo.

Van the Warrior · Aug 03, 2005, 11:11 PM // 23:11

why dont u just bring a mesmer with the 150 gold ascalon armor and have him cast illusion of weakness while he has 4 su p runes on himself 4x this has happened to me when 1 noob probably doin it on purpose does that to himself in the random comp arena he auto kills himself in 1 go

jopapa1267 · Aug 04, 2005, 01:09 AM // 01:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Van the Warrior

why dont u just bring a mesmer with the 150 gold ascalon armor and have him cast illusion of weakness while he has 4 su p runes on himself 4x this has happened to me when 1 noob probably doin it on purpose does that to himself in the random comp arena he auto kills himself in 1 go

???? what kind of noob has 4 sup runes on him when hes like lvl 5 or something with his 150 gold ascalon armor. illusion of weakness u dont get till later on...theres a 30 second recharge too....whats the point when he cant go to HoH.

Lews · Aug 04, 2005, 05:03 AM // 05:03

And to think I developed this build. *sigh*