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Bast · Aug 17, 2005, 11:58 PM // 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ednemak

im a pro war, axes are shit compared to swords

1. bleeding kills mending
2. gladiators>eviscerate

Mending? Gladiator's Defense? No good Warrior runs either of those in a serious PVP setup. Monks exist for a reason.

Let's see here: Gladiators requires that you're being attacked. No one attacks Warriors until the end of the match and by then you've already lost.

Mending? Oh noes, not a constant +6 life per second. Total trash in PVP.

The Paladin premade is absolutely horrible.
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Illusionary Weaponry and Hundred Blades was a sick (but easily countered) combo. ArenaNet made Hundred Blades elite back in the beta sometime probably for this reason.

Howling Wind · Aug 18, 2005, 12:00 AM // 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ednemak

im a pro war, axes are shit compared to swords

1. bleeding kills mending
2. gladiators>eviscerate

The bleeding isn't going to stand there for long and if your talking about gladiators defense that has nothing to do with swords or axes, it's a stand alone skill.

Although bleeding is a good healing distractor, it by no means makes sword superior to axes.

LifeInfusion · Aug 18, 2005, 12:01 AM // 00:01

Illusionary weapon ( a mesmer elite skill)

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Originally Posted by mr_boo

Illusionary Warrior

Ender Ward · Aug 18, 2005, 12:01 AM // 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ednemak

im a pro war, axes are shit compared to swords

1. bleeding kills mending
2. gladiators>eviscerate

Step out of random arena.

Jake · Aug 18, 2005, 12:03 AM // 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ednemak

im a pro war, axes are shit compared to swords

1. bleeding kills mending
2. gladiators>eviscerate

You're totally awesome dude.

Ednemak · Aug 18, 2005, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by Howling Wind

The bleeding isn't going to stand there for long and if your talking about gladiators defense that has nothing to do with swords or axes, it's a stand alone skill.

bleeding=19ish seconds, when I encounter a stupid idiot I bring him to 30 hpish and watch while he runs from the inevitable

and your holding eviscerate in such a high pedistal when it is so easily replacable

with sword i can do the dmg and defend agianst ur none existant offense

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

Although bleeding is a good healing distractor, it by no means makes sword superior to axes.

it does in pvp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ender Ward

Step out of random arena.

why, so every loser can get rid of self heal and rely on a monk to hold there hand while they use eviscerate?

random is my hunting ground for 1 v 1, and no war has ever beaten me

Howling Wind · Aug 18, 2005, 12:39 AM // 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ednemak

bleeding=19ish seconds, when I encounter a stupid idiot I bring him to 30 hpish and watch while he runs from the inevitable

and your holding eviscerate in such a high pedistal when it is so easily replacable

with sword i can do the dmg and defend agianst ur none existant offense

it does in pvp

why, so every loser can get rid of self heal and rely on a monk to hold there hand while they use eviscerate?

random is my hunting ground for 1 v 1, and no war has ever beaten me

Bleeding may be able to last 19ish seconds but there is something called "condition removal spells" which is what I was referring to and most decent teams will be bringing something.

Where did evisecrate come from? none of my above posts talked about that.

The whole point of organised pvp is to allow your monk to do the healing while you focus on other things.

FengShuiBundi · Aug 18, 2005, 12:41 AM // 00:41

OMG... you are so leet. You can beat a mending warrior. I bow down to you.

No other comment, I think we've already shown that ednemak shouldn't be taken seriously.

Ednemak · Aug 18, 2005, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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Originally Posted by Howling Wind

Bleeding may be able to last 19ish seconds but there is something called "condition removal spells" which is what I was referring to and most decent teams will be bringing something.

it only takes 4 hits to bring it back up

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

Where did evisecrate come from? none of my above posts talked about that.

i was referring to axe luvers as a whole

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

The whole point of organised pvp is to allow your monk to do the healing while you focus on other things.

thats what i dont like, if ur monk dies you become less than an infant

Bast · Aug 18, 2005, 12:48 AM // 00:48

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Originally Posted by FengShuiBundi

OMG... you are so leet. You can beat a mending warrior. I bow down to you.

No other comment, I think we've already shown that ednemak shouldn't be taken seriously.

/signed

Ednemak · Aug 18, 2005, 12:51 AM // 00:51

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Originally Posted by FengShuiBundi

OMG... you are so leet. You can beat a mending warrior. I bow down to you.

No other comment, I think we've already shown that ednemak shouldn't be taken seriously.

mending wars
frenzy axe
hammers
smiters
axes
r/w

you name it ive killed it

Howling Wind · Aug 18, 2005, 12:58 AM // 00:58

Mend ail/con is 2sec recharge
Your monks dying means your team is loosing, self-heal is good to bring but in tombs well your not gonna keep yourself alive for long without your monks.

Tuna · Aug 18, 2005, 12:59 AM // 00:59

What you have killed doesn't really mean you have a good build. I've killed thing with a ele/warrior with a sword.

jaie · Aug 18, 2005, 01:16 AM // 01:16

I used to use Swords with my warrior but changed to Axes because it gained me a skill slot.

With any sword build you need Sprint + Hamstring. However with an axe you do most of your damage if your opponent is trying to run so you only need sprint, there is no need to snare with an axe because your DPS is huge whilst chasing someone with sprint, snaring them is counter productive with an axe.

Also Deepwound owns Bleeding, to be able to Deepwound someone without making them bleed is another plus (and sometimes skill saver as well).

Sciros Darkblade · Aug 18, 2005, 01:22 AM // 01:22

You do NOT need both Sprint and Hamstring ROFL
Plus, if you seriously want to deal damage while your opponent is running, Protector's Strike isn't exactly an Axe skill. It's not that great, but hey then don't bring up chasing running opponents.

Gash takes 6, as does Axe deep wounding. Ok, so Gash takes 7 since you need to Sever, but Sever causes 20 seconds of bleeding = 120 damage. Do NOT bring up condition removal, because Deep Wound is a condition too and Axe users cream over it.

The bottom line is, Swords and Axes are on about the same level, because strong builds that utilize one as well as the other exist.

However, if you guys are going to bring up nonsense to support one side or the other, I'm gonna address it cause I am bored.

Yeah, to be fair, I have to say something to sword users: if you use Gladiator's Defense in PVP, that's no reason to use a sword; it doesn't require one. So I am confused as to why it is brought up at all.

Kassad · Aug 18, 2005, 03:07 AM // 03:07

From what ive seen battle rage is the best elite skill to use in random. OOO A warrior with glad def, i'll just stop attacking for a few seconds and then own him. Gladiators Defence is crap in pvp, What if there are no wars on other team? your screwed arnt you? Both Sword and axe are good, Which is better? thats what opinions are for...

Nestle · Aug 18, 2005, 06:54 AM // 06:54

W/R with sword and Greater conflag as elite fits really well with spirit depending groups, as other rangers can arcane mimic off the warrior and oath shot spamming it. and I agree its all depends on the team build. And personally i played sword/axe and hammer, but i still like the sword condition + ftrust spike. (first 15 sec or so) great if u r smart on switching target (ie, build adrenlin on 1 monk then switch to another for quick dmg spiking with all ur team pounding on the new target?) there are situations that certain weapon is better, not to mention server/gash/hammersting = 15 energy for their monk to remove.

Ristaron · Aug 18, 2005, 07:04 AM // 07:04

If Hundred Blades was available earlier in the game then sword all the way. As it stands, swords are only on parr with axes in PvP when you have Hundred Blades and can fit it into a build.
Sadly, the builds that can do this are rare due to HB being elite.
Devs hear me, you've absolutely nerfed the best sword-skill in the game! Not by making it not the best, but because in PvE it is amazing and you've put it at the FRIKEN END OF THE GAME WHERE NOBODY IS GOING TO NEED IT UNLESS THEY GO BACK TO FARM OR SHIT.

Give it back to the Charr boss in the Breach. I don't care if it unbalances PvE, the skill is useless where it is.

The Red Knight · Aug 18, 2005, 12:29 PM // 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ednemak

im a pro war, axes are shit compared to swords

1. bleeding kills mending
2. gladiators>eviscerate

Rofl ednemak you just found a spot in my signature

I mean you have to atleast be rank 3+ or have a good ranking guild since your such ownage and use mending and gladiators defence! Gosh I mean what if you fought a w/n that used rigor mortis and fientheartness and had plague touch for your bleeding/deep wound? also Ive seen one my guidlies disrupting chop a final thrust

Vladmoney · Aug 18, 2005, 03:39 PM // 15:39

I don't like how people saying swords are mana dependent, so not true. They have only 1 good dmg skill (not counting hamstring) that uses only 5 energy. That is why Pure Strike is sweet. UNlike axes who must constantly wait for their adren to come back, people with swords can use pure strike. Sure you don't deal the highest dmg skill wise, but you deal enough dmg to make a point. I can use Pure Strike 2x b4 my adren gets high enough to use adren dmg skill. That gives me more dps because of this.