Curse

Saerden · Aug 25, 2005, 06:57 AM // 06:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mhydrian

"i am teh n00bslayer"

Please for the love/hate of god/devil/FSM someone from iQ pwn him with something like Necro/Rangers using pets and bows. please.

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Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

This thread is assinine and nothing but a pissing contest. But that always happens when one group of people try to force another group to play the way they THINK they should. Just look at the other "Disproving the R/W" thread for another example of this.

Discussing skills and strategy is great, but telling others what they must or musn't do playstylewise is assinine.

There is a difference between fun (subjective) and competitive (objective). People dont talk about fun because they know its subjective, so what is left that is worth to talk about?

Bast · Aug 25, 2005, 07:16 AM // 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

This thread is assinine and nothing but a pissing contest. But that always happens when one group of people try to force another group to play the way they THINK they should. Just look at the other "Disproving the R/W" thread for another example of this.

Discussing skills and strategy is great, but telling others what they must or musn't do playstylewise is assinine.

It's "asinine." I hope you will at least spell properly when you make your shrewd and painfully accurate posts in the future. The fact that you spelled it incorrectly twice leads me to believe it was intentional.

Thanks for playing.

MCS · Aug 25, 2005, 07:27 AM // 07:27

Hmm I seem to notice a trend among the people saying frenzy sucks.

NONE OF THEM HAVE THEIR IGN OR GUILD IN THEIR PROFILE.

Pathetic.

Isn't it cute how Mhydrian is STILL talking about arenas even though I've literally said like 7 times THIS ISN'T THE ARENAS WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT ARENAS. Whats more funny is even in the arenas hes still wrong.

This thread brings a smile to my face everytime I see his name I know it's going to be something absolutely idiotic.

The fact that he continues to insult people who are far better than him is hilarious. This kid has like 3 fame or something. I'm sure he totally lyke pwns at teh tombs but he thinks they're not fun and chooses to play random arenas instead where victory is achieved through hoping you get a team with a monk and no afks.

You sir are one of the most ignorant and just blatantly stupid people I've EVER seen on this message board. I read the suggestion forums, this is saying something.

Savio · Aug 25, 2005, 07:52 AM // 07:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saerden

Please for the love/hate of god/devil/FSM someone from iQ pwn him with something like Necro/Rangers using pets and bows. please.

No, Mhydrian will use Gladiator's Defense, and we won't be able to hit him 75% of the time with our bows and pets for 11 seconds at most, and we'll just keel over the other 19 seconds, not bringing necro hexes, traps, or anything else to stop him.

Actually, I doubt it'd take any skills to defeat him, no pun intended.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Aug 25, 2005, 08:19 AM // 08:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bast

It's "asinine." I hope you will at least spell properly when you make your shrewd and painfully accurate posts in the future. The fact that you spelled it incorrectly twice leads me to believe it was intentional.

Thanks for playing.

Well whoop dee doo...excuse my "horrible" spelling. English is not my native tongue. Oh No! I mispelled a freaking word!! How many languages do YOU speak? I doubt you can speak a word of Chinese or French.

Hahaha.. But thanks for pointing out something so petty because you didnt have a valid argument. But hey what do you expect from a noob who says things like this:

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Originally Posted by Bast

You can't use Sprint during that 5 second non-attack skill shutdown of TF. Adrenaline-charged non-attack skills get owned by TF's disabling. What if you're using something like Mend Ailment or Plague Touch with TF? You can't clear yourself of blind until TF ends, so that's a few seconds of uselessness.

Thanks for playing.

Lews · Aug 25, 2005, 08:44 AM // 08:44

This thrad makes me smile. I love idiots arguing with those who know better then them.
/sarcasim on
TF FTW. iQ and all Mods SUCK noobness!
/sarcasim off

Yeah....

Savio · Aug 25, 2005, 08:48 AM // 08:48

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Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

Hahaha.. But thanks for pointing out something so petty because you didnt have a valid argument. But hey what do you expect from a noob who says things like this:

He already corrected himself. Read the rest of the thread. Again. Now leave the petty fights to PMs and playgrounds, both of you.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Aug 25, 2005, 09:00 AM // 09:00

I guess you're joining the playground now arent you Savio?

And no Bast didnt correct himself. Others did. It was hilarious.

MCS · Aug 25, 2005, 09:12 AM // 09:12

lol someone should really close this.

Hilarious as it is it needs to go.

Bast · Aug 25, 2005, 10:17 AM // 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

I guess you're joining the playground now arent you Savio?

And no Bast didnt correct himself. Others did. It was hilarious.

Yeah, I corrected it, and I left the original newbed post so you could quote it and make yourself feel better.

I'm so wonderful.

Moskel · Aug 25, 2005, 12:18 PM // 12:18

Ok, I got bored reading by about the middle of the thread so....

Frenzy may be better in HoH -if- you don't have those W/R Beast Mastery guys packing spirits for you as well as Tiger's Fury. This lets your QS Rangers take Frenzy

and do the damage they need to do (or saves you from having a dedicated spammer, or provides backups for critical spirits).

Frenzy is almost always worse in GvG against a good team. You might get away with Frenzy for the first few minutes of the battle but once the opposing team figures out you're using it on a regular basis they can have say one Frag Me/N wand you until the wand damage doubles then drop you to the group with one spike (if you're running NR on them then maybe the hexes will be slow enough to save your butt).

Van the Warrior · Aug 25, 2005, 12:43 PM // 12:43

MCS has funny names for his pvp characters........lol

ICURADik · Aug 25, 2005, 01:10 PM // 13:10

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Originally Posted by Lews

Especially this 'noob' ICURADik.

Lol, held halls for 4 hrs yesteday.

Who are you?

Ishamael Sedai · Aug 25, 2005, 04:37 PM // 16:37

i'm still on pg 6 so maybe someone said this, but will the frenzy popularity still apply in a world where putrid has a 5 second cool. With qz that will be faster, but still not fast enough to stop the other team from putriding.

Neo-LD · Aug 25, 2005, 05:06 PM // 17:06

This reminds me of the R/W thread -.-

1. TF costs 10. Frenzy costs 5. Warriros have little energy.

2. TF needs attribute points. Frenzy doesnt. Warriors deal more damage with their weapon and strength pumped up.

3. TF has no defensive penelty. Frenzy causes you to take double damage. But that doesnt matter because:

1. There is a good chance they wont notice.
2. If they do, they must lose all their monk targets to switch to you in order to try to gank you.
3. You can hit sprint to cancel frenzy, in which case their attempt to gank you has been brutally denied, and they have wasted a huge amount of time for maybe 2 hits before you switched. Not to mention it gave your monks a breather.
4. Even if you stay in frenzy, as ensign posted in his numbers, you are only taking a small amount of extra damage compared to what a typical caster would take.

Given this, the fact that frenzy may produce the effect of drawing enemy fire is practically an ADVANTAGE.

Honestly, W/R is a VERY sketchy combo for a reason. TF on a war sucks. Really bad. Indisputably bad. TF wars just suck. Period. I would *maybe* rather have a paladin.

Ishamael Sedai · Aug 25, 2005, 06:41 PM // 18:41

as i asked a bit ago this discussion might be completely different if the update changes putrid to a 5 second recharge

Boofhead · Aug 25, 2005, 06:55 PM // 18:55

I disagree that TF on a warrior sucks. Maybe it's not as totally "awesomesauce" as Frenzy is, but "indisputably bad" is going a bit far.
It's still pretty good. You can still gain heaps of adrenaline and drop targets... maybe you're doing 5 less dmg per hit with your skills than a Frenzy warrior... how is that sketchy?

Phades · Aug 25, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57

The real question is, once you know it is a second rate skill, why bother using it when you lose nothing in the trade off and only gain from the transition?

ICURADik · Aug 25, 2005, 08:32 PM // 20:32

So you get 4 more nearly useless points in Str... wow. wtfbbq

I'm honestly going to bring Obsidian Flame on every build now, just because this many so called "elite" players think Frenzy is the only worthwhile speed buff.

Anyway, as I said.. the change in NR will drastically modify the various builds. Running JI, or some other enchant may actually be viable now. Pre-NR nerf there was really no compelling reason to not use a W/R.

Boofhead · Aug 25, 2005, 08:36 PM // 20:36

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Originally Posted by Phades

The real question is, once you know it is a second rate skill, why bother using it when you lose nothing in the trade off and only gain from the transition?

IMO the difference between Frenzy and TF is minimal.