Curse

Zeru · Aug 25, 2005, 04:40 AM // 04:40

Good teams WILL target warriors frenzy or not if they are cut off from their monks. Even with taking around 1/2 damage compared to casters if nobody is there to heal you fast enough you will die.

The only major downside to frenzy is that it actually requires the person to have some skill and battlefield awareness to be put to good use. Scrubs will die often with it and then complain that it sucks. You really only need to have it on when you're building up adrenaline (on an off target, usually ranger) and when you're spiking. If a team can react to a spike fast enough to kill the warrior before he finishes and sprints, you're both really lucky to have everyone in position and spike combos charged and you have really really good teamwork because you have to have that spike timed perfectly so the war and their monks have no chance to react. And unless you're doing armor ignoring damage you could've done the same thing to the enemy monk instead. Most armor ignoring damage is not that great otherwise. Check out ensign's post for a good description of armor ignoring spikes.

TF is easier to use and can be quite useful but the 10 energy/7-9 attribute points is far too harsh, and having to have ranger as a secondary is even harsher.

ICURADik · Aug 25, 2005, 04:41 AM // 04:41

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Originally Posted by MCS

Read the entire thread and all points you people are making have already been gone over and proven incorrect. Hell half of them were explained in my OP.

If ignorance is bliss then a lot of you are more happy than Rossie O' Donald in a WNBA locker room.

I guess this is a null argument, since mass enchants will be protecting your ass now.

ICURADik · Aug 25, 2005, 04:42 AM // 04:42

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Originally Posted by Eonwe

No.

No.

No.

Did I miss anything?

Shutup noob.

Calibretto_9 · Aug 25, 2005, 04:43 AM // 04:43

How in the heck is this thread still alive?

ICURADik · Aug 25, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45

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Originally Posted by rii

' when we think were gonna get spiked (or do and are protted), we hit sprit and run away'

So you spam Prot Spirit on your warrior every time he uses frenzy? I would rather save my monk the 10 energy, and continue attacking my chosen target.

udaytonflyer · Aug 25, 2005, 04:50 AM // 04:50

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Originally Posted by ICURADik

I guess this is a null argument, since mass enchants will be protecting your ass now.

lol mass enchants....nature renewal.... - ur staement nulled

MCS plz close ur thread.....

( haha by me posting i kept it that much alive...lol sry bro)

Savio · Aug 25, 2005, 04:52 AM // 04:52

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Originally Posted by ICURADik

So you spam Prot Spirit on your warrior every time he uses frenzy? I would rather save my monk the 10 energy, and continue attacking my chosen target.

Running away = Prot Spirit? That's a new one. The OP already stated it: warriors don't need to protect themselves.

ICURADik · Aug 25, 2005, 04:58 AM // 04:58

So you run away and stop doing damage? Ok... lol

ICURADik · Aug 25, 2005, 04:58 AM // 04:58

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Originally Posted by udaytonflyer

lol mass enchants....nature renewal.... - ur staement nulled

MCS plz close ur thread.....

( haha by me posting i kept it that much alive...lol sry bro)

latest update. ur statment nulled. stfu noob

Mhydrian · Aug 25, 2005, 05:03 AM // 05:03

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Originally Posted by Shinsei

Thanks for the good laugh Mhydrian, I really needed that.

Wait, your post wasn't a joke?

I love how warriors think that bringing a defense like gladiators is a waste. It's great, Ill enjoy killing you in the arena. Anyone familair with 4 on 4 arenas know the frequency of melee characters. In fact Ive seen many noob warriors without any defense , it so weak that my hammer ranger can own them 1 on 1, and its an anti caster build.

But alas trying to explain this to ignorant noobs is very hard. There is simply a very big difference in the skills you ill bring to 4 on 4 random and 8 on 8 HoH. However if you insist on being retarded there isnt any helping you. And by all means conitnue to bring frenzy and no melee defenses. Youd be better off making a ranger with tiger fury, using frenzy you have completely nulified any armor advantage you had in combat.

And for the record, I bring gladitors on sword warriors only, as all there best attack skills are non elite. But people trying to say a melee defense like gladiators which, insures melee dominance against other melee is a waste in random 4 on 4 arenas is simply blatantly wrong. You are going to die,and its going to be embarassing. Ive handed so many warriors there asses in the arena its not even funny.

As if this will even begin to sink in to the braindead amongst you. A Sword warrior is a good anti tank build.....in 8 on 8 this may not make sense but in random arenas its flexible build that can harass, hamstring, and survive the initial charge going into battle. And it can handle the abundance of tanks, which is undeniable. But of course Ill just have to hand you your ass personallyto show you. Noobs are fun to kill. People talk krap but have nothing to back it up with. Warriors are disadvantaged in PVP in any case. But not being able to survive a charge is just letting your team down. High tactics and gladiators allows my tank to charge in and bear the brunt of an attack. I have no intention of doing much damage, I usually get within 3 feet of there monk and spam heal sig and hit a melee defense ( could be gladiators depending on the build) , I cannot tell you the amount of mana and effort gets wasted on me while my team follows in alot of the time unharassed.

Once attacks cease harass the monk, tab for weak targets to roll over on. watch the monk and rez him immediately after death. People act like being able to survive is not notable. Its what a warrior does best, and I can garantee no caster simply ignores me...they are either running hamstinged and getting hacked, or dead.

Im done posting logic amongst fools, there is no point. I will continue to beat the hell out of noobs with no melee defense running frenzy.....I take them out before the monk sometimes, depending on exactly how shitty a tank they are. i run many warrior builds, hammer wars for casters, axe wars for damage, and swords wars as well. Gladiators defense is the single best melee defense available to a warrior, on a sword build there really isnt a elite worth taking over gladiators,. My usual sword build is W/N with plague touch and strip enchant, with no points in necro whatsoever. Occasiaonaly I go W/mo and bring life bond, in this case Ill bring bonettis defense.

But well I hope I meet you in game and kill you. I probably have before, arrogance and ignorance certainly can get you killed. But its fun to own people who think they are the elite. They whine the most.

Lews · Aug 25, 2005, 05:10 AM // 05:10

Who the hell are most the people in this thread, and why weren't they in beta? Oh wait...

Especially this 'noob' ICURADik.

Why use TF? Because you saw someone else use it

Personally I don't use it, but if someone wants to, good for them. They'll change a life.

Van the Warrior · Aug 25, 2005, 05:12 AM // 05:12

ton of people in this thread i have never even seen before

Aug 25, 2005, 05:16 AM // 05:16

Mydrian go into team arena right now

SOT · Aug 25, 2005, 05:16 AM // 05:16

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Originally Posted by MCS

No backup? 2 months of playing an axe warrior using frenzy and having it never happen isn't backup enough?

No Sir I don't have to back that up. He has to back up saying that there are groups out there that use obsidian flame on warriors who use frenzy and that is simply a blatant lie.

Aye, the 'because it has never happened to ME, it has never happened' argument.

Brilliance.

Jake · Aug 25, 2005, 05:17 AM // 05:17

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Originally Posted by Mhydrian

....

Please stop trying to make yourself look cool by calling everybody stupid every sentence. You aren't above anybody, not by a longshot.

Ensign · Aug 25, 2005, 05:22 AM // 05:22

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Originally Posted by Mhydrian

I run an Anti-Caster Warrior with Gladiator's Defense and Healing Signet! IT PWNS N00B WARRIORS WHO ATTACK OTHER WARRIORS!!!!1 I AM TEH S00PER TANK!!!1!1lolerskates

*****/*****

Yes, that's a perfect five stars for pure comedic gold.

Peace,
-CxE

fuzzybulldozer · Aug 25, 2005, 05:28 AM // 05:28

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Originally Posted by Mhydrian

You talk but you seem to know little. Gladitors defense is one of the very best defenses in the game. Elitist BS makes me want to spew and your noob coments are bring me to the virge. Im going to point this out for you so your slow brain can maybe comprehend. If you are reffering to 8vs8, then a warrior setup will be ALOT different then in 4 vs 4. And please when we PVP ignore me it doesnt matter you still will be skewered. For a sword war the best combo is galraths+final thrust, its fone ignore me while I tab around and find a teamate hovering around 50% health. Hes going to die hardcore.

Its funny after a few times being run through can make people really pay attention to you. You my friend are a fricking tard. Gladiators is on a 30 second recharge timer, its a great skill for a pure war build. And is perfect for idiots who frenzy on you. Just wait them out let hem frenzy some work on them, till they drop to about 60% or so, then fire gladiators and they will almost always swing 2-3 times more if they are not careful. Then unload galraths+final thrust, and usually a pure strike as they scramble for a stance. At this point they try for a heal sig, which really never saves them, easy to interrupt or try to run which is why theyve been hamstringed at the beginning of the combo.

I cant tell you the countless noobs I have killed in the arena like this. And meanwhile while you ignore me I am tabbing around for casters who are at half health and just destroying them when they dont see it coming. So when we fight please ignore me,unlike the majority of idiots in random 4 on 4 I bring rez, I know my krap and I manage to kill quite a few. A strong tactics war, is a huge asset especially in 4 on 4 arenas. Self healing and can surivive thorugh quite a bit. Any caster dumb enough to ignore a good warrior deserves to be smacked down, and any warrior who engages another war over a soft target should be smacked.....s

Wtf is your point anyways? its always a bad strategy to target warriors first. I mean seriously do you target warriors and if they dont have gladiators you attack them? Sounds a little frickin dumb bud. So you must be that moron who goes on on one with a war while getting destroyed by a N/me or ELE.

Don't argue with ensign. you aren't in his league

Eonwe · Aug 25, 2005, 05:34 AM // 05:34

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Originally Posted by ICURADik

Shutup noob.

Haha. Some kid that uses TF on a Warrior just called me a noob, so priceless.

Shinsei · Aug 25, 2005, 06:24 AM // 06:24

I'm a retarded newb because I see no sense in preparing a warrior to "tank" against other warriors. Mhydrian is so much better at this game than me. Sadface.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Aug 25, 2005, 06:30 AM // 06:30

This thread is assinine and nothing but a pissing contest. But that always happens when one group of people try to force another group to play the way they THINK they should. Just look at the other "Disproving the R/W" thread for another example of this.

Discussing skills and strategy is great, but telling others what they must or musn't do playstylewise is assinine.