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Kasperson · Aug 13, 2005, 10:14 AM // 10:14

Can someone tell that where can I get all the weapons what Zakarr uses?

Legendary Battousai · Aug 15, 2005, 08:09 AM // 08:09

identify it from a ramdom drop.... but for zakarr's build, zealots flame doesnt do that much damage >.> not really worth it though, i'd rather stick with my build

also i said dont mix coldfires and smites because if they trap you, you are forced to be interupted with my build, you cant avoid it and then you will slowly die. yet with skill [something a baby can do] you can avoid it.

cookiehoarder · Aug 15, 2005, 10:50 AM // 10:50

You should drop breeze and pack Boneti's defence.

smurfhunter · Aug 15, 2005, 02:25 PM // 14:25

this is my build:

healing breeze
blessed signet
bonettis defense
balthazars aura
zealots fire
balthazars spirit
essence bond
protective bond

strategy:

the usual, prot bond at -1, switch to smiting and add the other two enchantments. cast zealots fire about 5 seconds before you go in, use blessed and get energy, then use breeze a split second before they hit you.

what you do against bladed/graspings: go in with a full breeze, so you have 10 seconds to work up bonettis. once you do, breeze again. and again. until you have breeze runnig with like 8 seconds left, use bonettis and BA. you will be constantly giving them damage with zealots fire. and to avoid distraction almost completely, always cast a spell right when bonettis ends. you have a 75% chance to avoid a distraction that way. if you get dazed against a grasping, hit bonettis and try to breeze under it. you will make it about 50% of the time. if you dont make it bonettis again and do it again. you will probably die only 10% of the time when dazed. and you shouldnt get dazed each time either.

do *not* pull aatxes AND grasping unless you are sure you know what ur doing. i do it sometimes only because i have soloed there so much i kinda got used to the timing of savage and the others. like if you hit up BA just when you take damage they always savage late. but thats hard to pull off. the most important part is if you are bleeding and dazed you can say good bye right there. you do not have enough time to wait for bonettis to use breeze again.

smites: these ones are awesome. run in and cast breeze. cast BA. spam breeze. you have enough energy because you gain something like 1 energy per hit, and if you pull 5 your gaining energy mad fast. not to mention just use bonettis when your low. although do *not* wand smites because of shield of judgement, it will throw off your timing. YES i pull 10 smites at a time when i can, but once again you need to really spam breeze for that +20 hp from divine to stay alive. breeze will not keep up on its own with 105 hp.

speaking of 105 hp, you would be STUPID and i mean RETARDED to go against aatxes with 55 hp. have them bleed you and interupt your breeze and you die in about 3 seconds flat. the 55 hp is ONLY good againts graspings and smites. in fact aatxes are EASIER with about 200 hp just so you know. they dont hit often and breeze will keep up at 200 hp, if you pull only like 3 or so.

speaking of coldfires, they are pathetically easy. only they take FOREVER to kill because of rust and the annoying fact that they dont work with bonettis because all their damage is elemental. = like 5 mins per coldfire. usually if i aggro one with smites i juts ignore them (sitting in a maelstrom helps you recover energy actually, although remmebr to cast breeze when your OUT of it). it is possible to reach all the smites without aggroing the coldfires, except maybe those annoying 3 that are sometimes like right in the middle of about 20 coldfires. i always end up aggroing the coldfires when im against those. but w/e aggroing a coldfire is NOT death unlike most of these other builds. its just slooooow.

i dont konw what your smoking cookiehoarder, but breeze is central to the prot bond/105 hp build.

and i think people with divine boon heals are kind of going the long and hard way. having 105 hp means that all heals are now ridiculously godly. and you take the same damage. so why not take advantage of an 8 hp regen? why use a spike heal? those are always way too much, like orison heals for like 70 hp. thats like 70% of your entire hp! you dont need those spike heals. your hp will stay at 100% if you use breeze at 105 hp. trust me.

using mending is tempting but you will notice there is no room for it in my build. if i could have 9 skills i would add mending without a second thought. but as it is, there just isnt the room.

yes you NEED ZEALOTS FIRE because aatxes regen for some odd reason and it basically stops that if you are too slow getting BA off.

*swats a fly and leaves in a huff*

kleps · Aug 15, 2005, 05:15 PM // 17:15

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Originally Posted by smurfhunter

speaking of 105 hp, you would be STUPID and i mean RETARDED to go against aatxes with 55 hp. have them bleed you and interupt your breeze and you die in about 3 seconds flat. the 55 hp is ONLY good againts graspings and smites. in fact aatxes are EASIER with about 200 hp just so you know. they dont hit often and breeze will keep up at 200 hp, if you pull only like 3 or so.

are you serious? i can tank 4-6 aatxes with grasping darknesses with the 55hp build. the key is to have +4 pip mending, +2 pip watchful spirit and casting bonetti's when you need to regen your health along with casting your smite spells.

smurfhunter · Aug 15, 2005, 07:51 PM // 19:51

something about how i dont run mending or watchfull...?

problem with casting all those mending things is you have pathetic energy management without essence or balth spirit. and if you dont use those, then why take on mobs, they wont help you by attacking all the time...

with my build i can spam healing breeze as soon as it recharges. which does like 20 damage to the aatxes each time. and BA does 26 every second when i get it off. takes about 1-2 BA's to drop an aatxe.

and i did aatxes with 200 hp once. it was pathetically easy. but then you cant do smites because they tend to use zealots fire.

so go ahead and buff up to +6 if you want. i dont do it that way

cat1982 · Aug 16, 2005, 07:54 AM // 07:54

Breeze is completely unnecessary with a 55hp build, u take mending with 4> and divine boon, divine boon casts almost instantly and has no recharge, thus meaning u can spam it out, so u can run bals aura, hit bonfettis, then constantly spam divine boon until u run out of energy (spamming to do the damage from zealots, not to heal, u really dont need to heal with the mending), hit bonfetties, hit bals, etc etc, makes things very very quick and very very safe, anyone using breeze still is in the dark ages

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manveruppd · Aug 16, 2005, 09:00 AM // 09:00

Question for you guys: HOW do you get down to 105 HP? I just started a monk character and I'd like to get to know the class secrets

cat1982 · Aug 16, 2005, 09:49 AM // 09:49

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Originally Posted by manveruppd

Question for you guys: HOW do you get down to 105 HP? I just started a monk character and I'd like to get to know the class secrets

The 105hp build is flawed, u want the 55hp build, which is the 105 but with a -50 hp focus item.

For the 105 u need 5 sup runes (1 of each and 1 extra for the -75), and to get to the 55hp u do the cities of ascalon quest from warmaster tydus and get the reward of the -50 hp focus.

*edit: My bad, as the person below me corrected, cities of ascalon is from symon the scribe

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Charcoal Ann · Aug 16, 2005, 10:07 AM // 10:07

one thing:
Cities of Ascalon is from Symon the Scribe (after you do the quest for the old census)
Symon is up the steps behind Tydus then turn left to get to a large crater area.

now if only the bloody runes would come into stock.

The Fenixxor · Aug 16, 2005, 03:35 PM // 15:35

What kinda drops are you guys getting from UW? and how many enemies do you kill?
I kill the aataxes and grasping's at the start and the ones near the terrorblades then go onto kill about 20 more smites. I've done this at least 10 - 20 times and had 1 purple item from ALL runs.

Drew Healthbringer · Aug 16, 2005, 03:37 PM // 15:37

my last 5 runs have produced S&%T

manveruppd · Aug 16, 2005, 05:55 PM // 17:55

The more you repeat the same area the less effective the drops become, I thought this was well-known by now?

The Fenixxor · Aug 16, 2005, 06:09 PM // 18:09

i've done UW like 20 times, in total, and NEVER got a gold and only ever got 1 purple. how about instead of asking me to repeat myself actually answering my question and giving insight into the problem.
i dont mean to sound annoyed btw :P

enryb · Aug 16, 2005, 08:15 PM // 20:15

I'm assuming this build works just about anywhere that the mobs cant strip enchantments as well?

Amused Observer · Aug 17, 2005, 05:45 AM // 05:45

You need to rotate characters and locations. If you did 3 consecutive uw runs, try going to fow instead. or hang out for a bit at a high lvl spot (i.e. the volcano region). Keep going to the same spot over and over again will only reduce your chance of a decent drop.

Legendary Battousai · Aug 17, 2005, 07:56 PM // 19:56

the reason for farming UW is not for the purple and gold drops. its for the ecto. it is on a very rare occasion that you might find one. in my 50+ runs to the underworld, I have gotten 3 rares [gold hammer (sold for 100k), and 2 gold eternal shields (yet to be sold)] and 1 purple stormbow which has shit stats. Yet I have found about 150 ecto over the time I've started since may or so. at first I sold all my ecto for gold... but now im saving up for fissure armor ^-^. Yet for some reason, recently, I have been seing a major decrease in the drops of ecto. I've taken about a 1 week break from UW, I go back just to find 0 ectos again. maybe its nerfed? maybe its not... but either way im just unlucky.

Xomah of Denyle · Aug 18, 2005, 10:13 AM // 10:13

I curently use this build:

Bonetti's Defense
Balth. Aura
Zealot's Fire
Divine Boon
Healing Breeze
Prot. Bond
Essence Bond
Balth. Spirit

Before casting Prot. Bond, my APs are as follows:
Healing Prayers = 5 (+0)
Smiting Prayers = 9 (+3)
Prot. Prayers = 12 (+3) (+1 = scalp design) (+1 = rod)
Divine Favor = 8 (+3)
Tactics = 2

After casting Prot. Bond, my APs are:
Healing Prayers = 5 (+3) (+1 = scalp design)
Smiting Prayers = 12 (+3)
Prot. Prayers = 9 (+3)
Divine Favor = 8 (+3)
Tactics = 2

To be honest I doubt the build you posted is better than the one I use, let me elaborate:

Your build Upside:
-Efficient versus 2-3 monsters.
-SoJ helps alot prevent interrupts.
Your build Downside:
-Have to have at least 10 in Healing Prayers for Mending to be noticeably effective.
-Gives up 45 damage with every spell I cast (Zealot's Fire) for 41 damage and knockdown every 46 seconds (!) with Shield of Judgement.
-Gives up Divine Boon for Mending, which is in my opinion not a fair trade.
-Gives up Bonetti's Defense which can fill your energy bar quite fast with enough hits for Blessed Signet (20 Energy every 2 secons) which takes up some time that I could better use casting HB or ZF.

My build Upside:
-You can take up to 7-8 monsters at once.
-Accordingly, with Bonetti's Defense, I am able to get a full energy bar quite fast enough with only one cast every while.
-Zealot's Fire and Divine Boon is a deadly combo on its own, even if don't cast BA. (Tested).
-Can do pretty well with only 9 in Healing Prayers (7 arrows regen with Healing Breeze, 61 HPs with Divine Boon).
My build Downside:
-Interrupts can be deadly!
-The less monsters you have the longer the fight lasts (can be a PitA!) and the slower you mana regens.

This is only theoratically speaking of course, and only my opinion. I will test your build today to have a clearer view.

The Fenixxor · Aug 18, 2005, 10:18 AM // 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendary Battousai

the reason for farming UW is not for the purple and gold drops. its for the ecto. it is on a very rare occasion that you might find one. in my 50+ runs to the underworld, I have gotten 3 rares [gold hammer (sold for 100k), and 2 gold eternal shields (yet to be sold)] and 1 purple stormbow which has shit stats. Yet I have found about 150 ecto over the time I've started since may or so. at first I sold all my ecto for gold... but now im saving up for fissure armor ^-^. Yet for some reason, recently, I have been seing a major decrease in the drops of ecto. I've taken about a 1 week break from UW, I go back just to find 0 ectos again. maybe its nerfed? maybe its not... but either way im just unlucky.

Thanks, thats exactly what i wanted to know.

Phoenix Of The Rising Sun · Aug 19, 2005, 05:48 AM // 05:48

just for general knowledge for any newb mo/w wannabes, u need all four sup monk runes, with an extra duplicate rune. they don't stack but the -75 health does stack.
so u'll get yur 105 health.