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dont feel no pain · Oct 20, 2005, 10:34 PM // 22:34

ok Rebirth and Resurrect both res with 25% (i think) and both rs with no energy(i think) absolutly rubbish not to mention that rebirth consumes all ur energy arg why do these exsist the only good thing about rebirth is that it take 2 secs less than resurrect my god they need some serious altering

Signet of Humility · Oct 20, 2005, 10:45 PM // 22:45

isnt that self explanatory?.. title itself

DeanBB · Oct 20, 2005, 10:56 PM // 22:56

There is more to this game than GvG or PvP. In PvE both can be used to bring a whole team back from near-wipe. Rebirth is useful for when the monsters are camped on the bodies since it teleports them to the casters location. I like a wamo on the team to have rebirth and monk resurrect.

Signet of Humility · Oct 20, 2005, 10:58 PM // 22:58

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Originally Posted by DeanBB

There is more to this game than GvG or PvP. In PvE both can be used to bring a whole team back from near-wipe. Rebirth is useful for when the monsters are camped on the bodies since it teleports them to the casters location. I like a wamo on the team to have rebirth and monk resurrect.

well he said GvG

twicky_kid · Oct 20, 2005, 11:35 PM // 23:35

res sig is the most effective res on game. other fast casting res like vengance and unyeilding aura have long recharges for a reason. if you could res every 20-30 seconds you have some really long battles. res are fine they way they are. a better strategy is to never let anyone die.

Eonwe · Oct 20, 2005, 11:37 PM // 23:37

After reading your post, I have one question for you. Have you ever even played in GvG?

Signet of Humility · Oct 20, 2005, 11:38 PM // 23:38

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Originally Posted by Eonwe

After reading your post, I have one question for you. Have you ever even played in GvG?

Ditto

smurfhunter · Oct 20, 2005, 11:44 PM // 23:44

personally, i always pack rebirth when i go to tombs.

these are some great skills that i always like to take:
rebirth
mending
healing hands/echo
orison of healing

these skills are like the basics in any build

Zeru · Oct 20, 2005, 11:44 PM // 23:44

Rebirth and Ressurect are surprisingly not that bad in gvg. Restore life is preferred but too difficult to use often times.

carnivore · Oct 20, 2005, 11:50 PM // 23:50

rezes in gvg? always thought it was bad because it just helps you build DP

Knight of Eternal Darknes · Oct 21, 2005, 12:30 AM // 00:30

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Originally Posted by carnivore

rezes in gvg? always thought it was bad because it just helps you build DP

yeah, you get rez'd often enough why build the dp faster buy bringing in more skills to rez eachother when you can just bring in a skill that might be more of use for you

Zeru · Oct 21, 2005, 12:30 AM // 00:30

Well obviously fighting 7v8 is better than 8v8 with one guy having less health/energy.

Eonwe · Oct 21, 2005, 01:09 AM // 01:09

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Originally Posted by Knight of Eternal Darknes

yeah, you get rez'd often enough why build the dp faster buy bringing in more skills to rez eachother when you can just bring in a skill that might be more of use for you

Unfortunately you can't beat good teams 7v8, espescially if the person on your team that died happened to be a monk. Devoting 3 or 4 skill slots to ressurection skills (commonly 2/3 or so rez sigs and 1 fast cast hard res) is necessary if you plan on actually winning. Not carrying any type of res at all is pretty stupid.

smurfhunter · Oct 21, 2005, 01:31 AM // 01:31

ive noticed in those 20 minute battles at the flagstand, if no ones getting morale and you run out of sigs before they do its gg. i guess thats where the hard res would come in o.O

man i musta sounded clever pounding iS for using ressurect LOL

Dmitri3 · Oct 21, 2005, 02:32 AM // 02:32

Well, think of a mesmer with ressurect or rebirth. That's all.

romO · Oct 21, 2005, 05:36 PM // 17:36

all of the top guilds use ressurect. as a primary res. we are currently 40th, and while that is hardly considered a top guild, we are just starting to GvG so we are gaining rank quickly and should be up there in no time. we use ressurect on a mesmer as a primary res against spike teams (basically all teams in gvg). if there is little damage and one target just goes down, it is best to use a hard res (ressurect or restore life, definetely not rebirth) and save your sigs. the other team might not have a hard res, and so you can force them to use all of their sigs and retreat from the flagstand. sigs can be used in vital situations when you need to res monks or need something like an ele to help spike a runner that is coming in. it also helps when a member is at 60% dp and cannot res at the base. DP only affects life and energy, so dont count anyone with DP out of the game, they can still do damage, and with hard res, you can keep them up indefinetely. that said, the person with hard res should be heavily protected because if he gets to 60 dp and cannot be resed, you are down one and have no sigs, thats basically gg.

that is for gvg. in tombs, however, hard resses are useless. just bring 5 res sigs (on everyone but the monks) and use those. kill the ghost for morale if you need them back, but if the match gets to the point where you need to use a hard res because you are out of sigs, you have most likely lost anyway.

Rey Lentless · Oct 21, 2005, 07:15 PM // 19:15

glyph of sacrifice and a hard rez

Hot Dead · Oct 21, 2005, 07:28 PM // 19:28

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

ok Rebirth and Resurrect both res with 25% (i think) and both rs with no energy(i think) absolutly rubbish not to mention that rebirth consumes all ur energy arg why do these exsist the only good thing about rebirth is that it take 2 secs less than resurrect my god they need some serious altering

A warrior (primary) that can use rebirth effectively, warriors dont need to manage energy as much as other characters.

Ollj · Oct 21, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15

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Originally Posted by Rey Lentless

glyph of sacrifice and a hard rez

stop posting intelligent stuff and leave them in the mists please.

rii · Oct 21, 2005, 09:38 PM // 21:38

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Originally Posted by Hot Dead

A warrior (primary) that can use rebirth effectively, warriors dont need to manage energy as much as other characters.

rebirth isnt just crap cause its drains your e. the skill lock is as good as being dead, and if you count that in it takes longer to get someone up and running. Unless your scared of interrupts.... but 6s is still asking for it, so dont bother either way.