Curse

dont feel no pain · Nov 27, 2005, 12:40 PM // 12:40

*sigh* the problem with skill nerf's they dont just take away thier advantages they also complety destroy them, like quickshot is more of a slowshot now and complety usless.....................

Seissor · Nov 27, 2005, 12:46 PM // 12:46

I never understood how it was useful 0_o there are far better eites.

Wasteland Squidget · Nov 27, 2005, 12:53 PM // 12:53

Quickshot still allows you to fire arrows considerably faster than you otherwise could. This is, in itself, an extremely effective tactic.

Eonwe · Nov 27, 2005, 07:03 PM // 19:03

I don't think there's anything wrong with it. *shrugs*

Man With No Name · Nov 27, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19

Crying about this fix, methinks...

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Originally Posted by Guild Wars - Game Updates

Update - Thursday, November 17

Fixed an exploit with Quick Shot that allowed players to reuse the skill more rapidly than should be possible.

fallot · Nov 27, 2005, 07:22 PM // 19:22

I was using a build that involved Quick Shot on my faction farming R/E and its still effective though not as much. It doesnt deserve to be an Elite. Unless its swapped out for Really Really Quick Shot

(or adds some extra damage).

dargon · Nov 27, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34

I run a QS build and it still works just as effectively as before at taking down my target.

Sarus · Nov 27, 2005, 07:39 PM // 19:39

Is this thread supposed to be a question or is it another one of these unsupported opinions complaining about skill "nerfs" that people love to whine about?

4runner · Nov 27, 2005, 10:46 PM // 22:46

ive replaced quickshot with hunters, and use elite poison or barrage in its place for my elite!

Humbly,

Tactical-Dillusions · Nov 27, 2005, 10:57 PM // 22:57

The only quick thing about quickshot that i can see is that it takes very little time for the arrow to travel to your target.
I see no point in it's existence.

Why not just use a prep or a spirit and save energy and clicking?

RTW+FW FTW!

Syno Nym · Nov 28, 2005, 02:09 AM // 02:09

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Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions

RTW+FW FTW!

Which don't stack btw, unless you use RtW before FW. And you can only do that once every 60 seconds.

About Quick shot, it allows you to almost double your dps. Use one normal shot followed by a Quickshot, you get 2 shots instead of one. It's a kind of ubber Double shot if you prefer. It costs less, recharges faster, etc...

JR · Nov 28, 2005, 05:29 AM // 05:29

I think the problem is OH MY GOD it actually takes a little bit of intelligence to use well now. No more karate chopping your keyboard.

Wasteland Squidget · Nov 28, 2005, 07:26 AM // 07:26

Quick Shot fires like an interrupt, but without the delay afterwards. This means it ignores your current attack, and with the recharge as it stands spamming Quickshot is considerably faster than just attacking.

The description is misleading, however. If it did only what the description said (raises the speed of the arrow in flight) it would be useless as you say.

Snowman · Nov 28, 2005, 03:32 PM // 15:32

I must admit i've only recently tried a ranger in in PvP. mainly due to a ranger spike build we wanted to experiment with.

with some spirits up, kindle or ignite arrows, tigers fury... then duel shot quick shot, you do alot of damage very quickly its almost instant.

so it is usefull for this idea.. however I must admit I have started experimenting with other skills because I love 'Escape' so much at the moment.

I think it does have its uses.. but only in combination with a character build + team build strategy!

on its own I agree.. it looks worthless.

Too Hot Fo You · Nov 28, 2005, 03:48 PM // 15:48

yep. Actually it has two nice possible ways to use it best.

1) As the arrow travels faster, you're much more likely to hit a running target.
Examples: A monk who tries to dodge to the left and to the right to escape your arrows, will get killed as he has to stand still to heal, so you'll surprise him by hitting him (Randomarena)

2) Spikergroups. With preps and everything, you deal the most damage with dualshot. Now to get a maximum damage output, use dualshot and quickshot immediately after it. The arrows will hit the target at the same time, or almost, depends on how fast you can get the Quickshot after Dualshot (Tombs or GvG)

Thats its tactical uses. You cant use most of a skill's power only by using it alone and spamming it. I no balanced game like guildwars should be an "uber attack". Just keep that in mind when you play the game. And please, stop crying, and try out the skill with a better use, you'll love it, as I do

fallot · Nov 28, 2005, 07:32 PM // 19:32

It would be nice if it did critical damage or even just max damage (regardless of points in Marksmanship), that would really make it Elite-worthy. Of course, since that will be entirely to my benefit, my viewpoint isnt exactly unbiased.

Farin · Nov 28, 2005, 07:41 PM // 19:41

I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Ranger is spike is good enough to spike any target in less than two seconds. Adding damage or plus critical chances would be way too good for Ranger spikes. I can barely save 2:3 spikes with infuse nowadays.

Too Hot Fo You · Nov 28, 2005, 08:05 PM // 20:05

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Originally Posted by RaZoO

I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Ranger is spike is good enough to spike any target in less than two seconds. Adding damage or plus critical chances would be way too good for Ranger spikes. I can barely save 2:3 spikes with infuse nowadays.

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yey if the spiker team is a pug group, actually you must be good, because you use infuse. It's the best lifesaver against spikes, but with the group I use to do ranger spikes, after some time of playing, we're that good played in as team, the ennemi dies instantly. But its really hard to get a perfectly timed spike.

Anyways, not to go offtopic, boosting quickshot now would be bad, it was overpowered with the abuse. I used it without really noticing it, though I was shooting really fast and wondering, I thought it was wanted like that. I could get a monk down solo, really fast in arenas. The skill is alright now, so leave it.

xcutioner · Nov 28, 2005, 09:33 PM // 21:33

If you weren't using the exploit then you didn't notice any changes to quickshot. I use QS constantly, didnt use the exploit, and I notice no difference.

Too Hot Fo You · Nov 28, 2005, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by xcutioner

If you weren't using the exploit then you didn't notice any changes to quickshot. I use QS constantly, didnt use the exploit, and I notice no difference.

Haven't played since sometime, but it looked everything ok for me, the double shooting speed was correct. I didn't really know about the abuse. But for a damage build on a single target, QS is the best elite for ranger.