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Entropius · Sep 27, 2005, 03:35 PM // 15:35

Warrior vs warrior comparisons are useless, since warriors don't attack each other if they know what they're doing.

FrogDevourer · Sep 27, 2005, 05:33 PM // 17:33

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Originally Posted by Saerden

I heard people won HoH with henchmen, does that mean they are better then pro-teams?

To be fair, these henchmen teams were run by experienced players and exploiting the broken skills of the moment.

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Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

final thrust honestly is the most damaging weapon skill in this game if you meet it's 50% hp requirement.

And then it leaves you with 0 adrenaline which kills your overall DPS. If you like big numbers and still want a good damage output, you might want to use Eviscerate or a Hammer.

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Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

A team full of axes will not do as well as a team with axe, sword, and hammer. Why? Tough to counter that's why...

Tough to counter? I fail to understand why a mix of swords and axes is tougher to counter. Could you expand on this?

Dont Look At My · Sep 27, 2005, 05:42 PM // 17:42

The advantage of sword is: The faster hitting than an axe.
Because Axe and Sword got same good Conditions to stack on ennemy.
Like if you use an axe warrior with Smiting Prayers/Strength/Axe/Healing attributes.
you cast Balthasars Spirit on yourself, and mending. The rest of your skills, you have like 1of energy, like sprint or something, and the rest of your skills are all adrenaline based.
You inflict damage like nothing, because as soon as someone attacks you you will always be on full adrenaline, its a death to monks, because you just spamm your elite:
Cleave, or Eviscerate.
and for the rest you spamm your damage/condition adrenaline skills.

rii · Sep 27, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45

All of the weapons have their niches, so I assume he was implying a good range is better than one wepaon over and over.
Case in point, evis/executioners is a great combo, but when theres already a deep wound galrath/final does more, so tbh id rather have one sword and one axe than two axes. Whatsmore as you said, swords can occasionally tag on fear me and watch yourself without much loss, and a hammer as the third member.... kd is nice at a spike, and it does a fair bit of damage too.

Dont Look At My · Sep 27, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45

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Originally Posted by FrogDevourer

Tough to counter? I fail to understand why a mix of swords and axes is tougher to counter. Could you expand on this?

same to me ^^
as they all do melee damage, and they count as attacks, I dont really see where the difference is ...

and to be honest, and really relying on facts, as you want it.
A team of full axe is more difficult to encounter then a team of sword, axe and hammer, as a team of full sword is more difficult to encounter (full sword will minimise your damage, so its not a good option anyways)
you want to know why? Because axes hit faster then a team of sword, axe and hammer. Because Hammer is just too slow, even if the sword gets it equaled a bit. A full axe team still hits harder, so your argument is just totally wrong.

Jetdoc · Sep 27, 2005, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by Dont Look At My

The advantage of sword is: The faster hitting than an axe.

Both axes and swords hit at one hit per 1.33 seconds.

FrogDevourer · Sep 27, 2005, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Originally Posted by Dont Look At My

Because axes hit faster then a team of sword, axe and hammer.

and 2 posts later:

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Originally Posted by Dont Look At My

The advantage of sword is: The faster hitting than an axe.

So which one is faster according to you?
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Take your time
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Neither. Same speed.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ies-id1275.php
Originally Published by Ensign on April 15, 2005

Eonwe · Sep 27, 2005, 06:40 PM // 18:40

There's really nothing from the sword line that I would run over a standard axe build. Also, the fact that Eviscerate is pure evil may make me a little biased

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Dont Look At My · Sep 27, 2005, 06:55 PM // 18:55

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Originally Posted by FrogDevourer

So which one is faster according to you?

where is the problem? I said everything I need to. Ok again

Hitting rater, from fastest to slowest:
Sword->Axe->Hammer

Now we have in regarding of speed: 3axes vs 1hammer, 1axe, 1sword.
Algebrally that makes: 2axes vs 1hammer, 1sword.

As the Sword is a bit faster then an axe, but a hammer is lods slower then an axe, we conclude that the 2axes are faster then 1hammer, 1sword.

Sry if it wasnt clear enough last time, but I think this time it is, isn't it?

Ishamael Sedai · Sep 27, 2005, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Frog, quoting your post was unnesessary. I quoted though because you mentioned the axe spike which I think the sword spike of savage galrath final is better for dropping monks. The disadvantage with sword comes with the less dmg done the rest of the time & the energy cost of hamstring vs evis & rake.

Mitsu Bishi · Sep 27, 2005, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Well, you said Swords are hitting faster than Axes which they don't. Both have attack rates of 1.33 seconds per attack.

Dont Look At My · Sep 27, 2005, 07:04 PM // 19:04

yep, if the ennemi monk isnt really bothered about stats, sword isnt going to help you much.

Etaisella · Sep 27, 2005, 07:09 PM // 19:09

yep, its settled:

I win

Dont Look At My · Sep 27, 2005, 07:18 PM // 19:18

o.O
why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO would you win???

I explained everything in every detail, so I think if there has to be a winner it should be me, shouldnt It?

anyways where do you take the rights to say that your the winner?
I just dont get it ... (if it is a joke, actually its a really bad one)

sleazeh · Sep 27, 2005, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Perhaps you missed the sarcasm in the question, which arose from the fact you contradicted yourself.

As noted above, swords and axes have identical attack speeds. Its not a matter of subjective opinion, its fact.

I have no idea as to the point you are trying to make "algebrally" (sic).

derrtyboy69 · Sep 27, 2005, 07:24 PM // 19:24

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Originally Posted by Dont Look At My

o.O
why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO would you win???

I explained everything in every detail, so I think if there has to be a winner it should be me, shouldnt It?

anyways where do you take the rights to say that your the winner?
I just dont get it ... (if it is a joke, actually its a really bad one)

you really dont make any sense, first you say swords are faster then say they are same speed, which mean you do lose. axes are better than and will always be better than swords

Dont Look At My · Sep 27, 2005, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by derrtyboy69

you really dont make any sense, first you say swords are faster then say they are same speed, which mean you do lose. axes are better than and will always be better than swords

if you dont understand what I say, dont come up with stupid responses, please. Your just showing a new example of bad reading and understanding.

and axes are not better than swords. Personally I think that in a teamgame,
swords are much much better than axe.

Lods of people just dont seem to see behind the damage. Actually Axes do more damage than swords, but with the right combination of skills, and the right teambuildup (which im working on actually for HoH), you have one warrior doing 100-150damage a second multiply this by 5for 5warriors in a team, you get some nixe damage output you could never reach with axes.

Sigil · Sep 27, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43

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Originally Posted by Dont Look At My

if you dont understand what I say, dont come up with stupid responses, please. Your just showing a new example of bad reading and understanding.

and axes are not better than swords. Personally I think that in a teamgame,
swords are much much better than axe.

Lods of people just dont seem to see behind the damage. Actually Axes do more damage than swords, but with the right combination of skills, and the right teambuildup (which im working on actually for HoH), you have one warrior doing 100-150damage a second multiply this by 5for 5warriors in a team, you get some nixe damage output you could never reach with axes.

I don't understand what you are saying.

Could you please slow down, support your assertions with actual facts/skills/numbers, and use concise statements rather than broad generalizations?

As written, your posts are internally contradictory and very difficult to follow. If English isn't your first language, get a friend to assist you in conveying your meaning. At least for me, you're not communicating effectively.

cookiehoarder · Sep 27, 2005, 07:45 PM // 19:45

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Originally Posted by FrogDevourer

To be fair, these henchmen teams were run by experienced players and exploiting the broken skills of the moment.

Healer henchmen removes those hexes like no tomarrow. Take it from me

Dont Look At My · Sep 27, 2005, 07:47 PM // 19:47

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Originally Posted by Sigil

I don't understand what you are saying.

Could you please slow down, support your assertions with actual facts/skills/numbers, and use concise statements rather than broad generalizations?

As written, your posts are internally contradictory and very difficult to follow. If English isn't your first language, get a friend to assist you in conveying your meaning. At least for me, you're not communicating effectively.

Is my English really that bad ???? ....

actually I'm living in UK for the next 3 years, but I just arrived a few weaks ago =)