Curse

xenoranger · Jan 14, 2006, 12:51 AM // 00:51

Mantra of Recovery {Elite} - Stance
For 5-17 seconds, spells you cast recharge 50% faster.

I was in PvP against a Mesmer with Mantra of Recovery. Dang... a single mesmer with that skill was able to seriously screw my team. I later found out that they had a high fast casting and mantra of recovery, so they were just firing off skills left and right, then using Mana recovery skills to keep enough power for the next cast. It was a nightmare.

I recall someone on the boards once telling me that it was a pointless skill (don't recall who), but I finally found a very good use for it during that PvP match. 1 Mesmer... disabling 3 of my teammates.

And here I am wondering what I should do with Illusionary Saint (my Mesmer).

yangster · Jan 14, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59

Must have pressed energy tap a lot too or other energy stealing skills. I'm gonna try it out too, it sounds fun, firing spells at all of your oppenents while it's still in effect on all of them.

flawless650 · Jan 14, 2006, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Mantra of Recovery + Diversion = nightmare

icemonkey · Jan 14, 2006, 10:56 PM // 22:56

skill like power drain, which already has a decent recharge of 25 can net you so much energy it can be very helpful

also some people will run a signets mesmer with mantra of inscriptions, you can completely shut out their elite(humility) and take a lot of energy with weariness

only problem with a fast cast mesmer build is you usually gotta invest a lot of skill slots and stat points and so cant usually use secondary profession as much as you probably need to

twicky_kid · Jan 14, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12

Its not that MoR is bad. Its the fact that glyph of renewal is soooo good. Instant recharge for 5 energy and no attribute line.

xenoranger · Jan 15, 2006, 07:13 PM // 19:13

It's funny b/c I'm friends with the mesmer that first screwed with me using Mantra of Recovery and Fast Casting. Either way.. I need to cap that on my Me/Mo, but that'll be a while (still in Kryta).

Yeah, I did notice that fast casting + Mantra of Recovery = serious ether drain... but thankfully Mesmers have so many ether stealing skills. I know not everyone recommends it... but I took a Sup Rune in Fast Casting and have the Veil that offers a +1 to fast casting. Outta the gate, I'm already lvl 4 in Fast casting.. and despite the fact I've only dumped 2-3 levels in it.. I"m finally noticing a difference. Still.... It'll be fun to screw with people once I'm ascended.

Phades · Jan 15, 2006, 07:59 PM // 19:59

You are spending alot to keep it up, in addition to chaining your spells rather quickly. Using that skill forces you to bring multiple energy gain skills in order for it to be viable over time. This is why the skill is largely unused. People look for elietes to enchance a build or provide efficiency, not destroy it.

fiery · Jan 15, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56

energy denial build.

rii · Jan 15, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29

People never said its bad, they said its too expensive to maintain, which is why a lot of people have proposed a 5e cost and increase duration slightly. Id say that it should be 10e with a couple of seconds added onto duration net, but frankly get a sof engine, power drain, and drain enchant and gg energy loss -.- (tried and tested) Most of the time im having trouble using energy.

Phades · Jan 15, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

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Originally Posted by fiery

energy denial build.

Energy tap does not make a energy denial build and just one means to help sustain the use of mantra. Drain enchant and plenty to suck up does help, but it is somewhat conditional and the enhancement is not constant.

It should be drasticaly better than serpents quickness, but in reality its more of a tradeoff of sorts.

Akhilleus · Jan 15, 2006, 11:38 PM // 23:38

MoR is great.
use one of the two following skill-combos in conjunction with MoR plus your domination lineup to keep your energy depletion at its lowest:
add in ethereal burdon and the occaisonal AE+burdon and you have pretty decent energy management, combine with clumsiness and you can wreck warriors with 1 skill, and save the rest for casters.
its also RIDICULOUSLY annoying when paired with ether-lord/SoF; allows your energy to literally come back form the dead, and power up your reaminging skills.

Lambentviper · Jan 16, 2006, 12:00 AM // 00:00

Im gonna try this once i unlock.

Better get to HoH then...

sun is in us · Jan 19, 2006, 06:32 PM // 18:32

Too Bad MOR and Serpents Quickness are both stances.....

Me/R.

rii · Jan 19, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Is combo-ed with quickening zephyr not good enough :S?

sun is in us · Jan 19, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24

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Originally Posted by rii

Is combo-ed with quickening zephyr not good enough :S?

QZ...Bah.

I don't like to hear the whiners in CA......

Self-Contained is sometimes nicer.

SaintGreg · Jan 19, 2006, 10:19 PM // 22:19

Combo'ed with QZ is too good, you can use skills very fast but they cost way too much energy, and with one 50% reduction you've already made the downtime on most skills near or at zero as it is.

Fatty Fatty Boomballati · Jan 20, 2006, 04:58 AM // 04:58

I always liked the skill but seeing as I'm a monk mesmer I never thought to use it.

xenoranger · Jan 20, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05

B/c it's fast casting, it seems that you can only gain benefit from it if you're a Mesmer primary. I have it on a couple characters, but it's pointless, so I need to get it on my Mesmer.

Knight of Eternal Darknes · Jan 20, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54

who said it was useless

Epinephrine · Jan 20, 2006, 03:22 PM // 15:22

It's not useless, it just only works in certain builds, and you need to not only generate way more energy than most builds (to support double casting speed) but also the 15 energy cost with each activation! I ran a MoR build a while back, it works great with skills that bring in energy for casting, preferably not relying on the opponent having energy - power drain and drain enchantment come to mind. Guilt/Shame both have long recharges, but with double recharge rate net more interrupts and energy.