Curse

ikickedbutt · Apr 23, 2006, 07:16 PM // 19:16

http://gwshack.us/261ec
the concept is for the warriors to use arcane mimicry so they have eviscerate and cleave at the same time. then they use FGJ and the necro keeps up dark fury for some crazy damage.
any suggestions, critique, reasons it wont work, and most appreciated would be for someone to try it out. i dont exactly have a great PvP guild

and i'm rank 0 and as everyone knows, no rank=no skill .*cough*sarcasm*cough*
i would like to thank the forum for supplying the monk builds and in previous threads i made, the warrior setup. i have had alot of free time to troll the forums away from home, and i have had an idea for the mimic warrior build for quite awhile

4 man build thread is here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3015822

EDIT: before you make a pointless post, arcane mimicry isnt spell-exclusive, lol.

Sientir · Apr 23, 2006, 11:32 PM // 23:32

Only question i have atm is about the 40 seconds that the wars DON'T have the elite mimiced...otherwise, i'm not exactly experienced enough in the ways of HA to know for sure. Like i said, my initial concern would be over the 40 seconds that you have a cooling spell (provided it doesn't take the 60 on after the 20 duration, though it might, i haven't played with Mimic a ton).

ames · Apr 24, 2006, 02:01 AM // 02:01

horrible build and here's why:
it was already said... 40 sec cooldown just defeats the purpose when you can bring pen attack for the added dmange since you're building 8 adren on eviscerate anyway.. 2ndly for the warriors, you won't need 2 shields up, and you will want to bring frenzy instead of for great justice.. and lose the heal sig for distracting blow since it's HA and you have a 3 monk backline..
for the e/mo and necro there's nothing really wrong with them,i guess they could work..
your monk backline shouldn't have a boon prot, that backline is as gvg'ish backline... in HA all the NR owns boons, plus you are going to want a spellbreaker monk to cap altars and a monk with infuse to counter spikes.

lishi · Apr 24, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27

not IMO it wont...

here is why

Arcana mimcry have 60 second rercharge 2 second cast.
That mean : 20 second you will have 2 elite then 60 second without.

and when , for 20 second you will have both elites you wont make the crazy damage you think.

let think(without adrenaline buff for now)

you gain 4 adreanalie.

cleave is ready.

you use creave(eviscerante and exce chop lose a adrenaline)

Code:

Adrenaline charge  E  C 
hit 01                  1  1
hit 02                  2  2
hit 03                  3  3
hit 04                  4  4
hit 05                  4  0(you use cleave)
hit 06                  5  1
hit 07                  6  2
hit 08                  7  3
hit 09                  8  4(evicerate)
hit 10                  1  0
hit 11                  2  1
hit 12                  3  2
hit 13                  4  3   
hit 14                  5  4 you use cleave
hit 15          
(you lose the other elites cos archana mincry ended)
(remember each time you use a adrenaline skill all other adrenaline skill lose a charge)

you will see you will use cleave only 3 times and eviscerate one time then you have to wait for 60 sec.

with the adrenaline bost you will be able to inclease the time used but a aegis or ward or guardian will criple everthing.(A good ward agaist foe will cut your damage to 0.)

PLUS even if will able to use your combo always the eviscerate+cleave combo isnt anything special , (actually imo penetreting blow most of time make more damage then cleave most of time).

one normal warrior with Tiger fury or frenzy will just make more damage then your build (when you are using both elite and when not).

Also here also some other flaw

No interupt : ever build should carry some way to interupt the claim resource of ghostly hero. without that you are going likely to lose most of altar map.

No spellbreaker without that there is no way to your ghost cap if the enemy have gale ...(wait the exaustion wont work if the galing guy is earth ele or they have more then one interupt)

all condition on warrior in HA is wortheless unless you have a mesmer with signet of humility on prot monk(and even then it may still useless).

The condition hex monk is mhh crap. here is way.

why 12 inspiration??? why not something like 16 prot 11 divine 8 inspriration? you will gain 4 less energy with inspired but its like nothing since its also a very conditional energy gain anyway.

when you insert a hex in your build think : will this hex will be removed in 1 second? yes you only have 1 hex who charge ever 30 second your hex will be removed by a energy hungry monk with inspired hex.

ikickedbutt · Apr 25, 2006, 10:17 PM // 22:17

ok i did some math and found out how much cleave sucks with eviscerate and exe strike.
i made some changes
http://gwshack.us/9748f
check it out

there is around a 15DPS increase on each warrior. comparing normal damage to the old warriors with mimic up.