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yesitsrob · Jun 05, 2006, 12:05 AM // 00:05

I would definitely like to see some form of improvement on the GVG Title system, as it is it's way too exclusive, thought I also wouldn't be interested in seeing it where volume and a bit of luck can get you points in the title...

I think 1400 would be better for sure, against a 1200 guild though I'm not sure... the jump in quality from position 15 to say 100 is in many cases as big as the jump in quality from 100 - 500. And I don't consider 1200 to be that high.... already in this ladder after just under a week the top 100 team is just a rating of 1150 or so.

Though I'm not sure exactly what the solution would be is I think more GVG'ers need a bit of title recognition... not so much need.. But it would be nice.

Having the extremely exclusive Champion Title should probably remain... but how about another lesser GVG title?

pah01 · Jun 05, 2006, 08:17 AM // 08:17

Now I think all who have posted in this thread are of the opinion that the current title is a good one and the bearer of it is going to be highly respected. The fact that it is highly elite makes it worthy of keeping.

The next thing is - Do eneogh people care about this eneogh that ANET will listen and give us a new title aimed at lower echelon GVG? Is this worth having a petition for it?

Like just here at Guru there is 42 posts now about it, Thats not exactly a lot.

My guild have been recruiting for GVG and tried out a few people. There have been some horrendously bad rank 3 players and tbh I would rather recruit someone who has had a title from even just 1100 or 1200 rating guild. That would at least show knowledge of the game and would IMO be a better guide to a players abilty than rank.

Personally I think winning 50 GVG's even at rating 1100 is much better an indication of a players worth than them being say a rank 6.

Sam

Zui · Jun 05, 2006, 08:28 AM // 08:28

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Originally Posted by pah01

Personally I think winning 50 GVG's even at rating 1100 is much better an indication of a players worth than them being say a rank 6.

Agreed.

On a side note, since you're recruiting, does you guild happen to play in the evenings around GMT -5 or GMT -8? Send a PM if the answer is yes.

Life Bringer · Jun 05, 2006, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Anet are far from stupid and they know that Champion title is going to very hard to achieve and therefore when people achive it people are going to be shocked and impressed when people start earning it. Also I do belive that it is a good idea to have some other method of determining how expriienced a non- top end gvg er is. However I think in making this the only gvg title it become very very special which I like. So maybe under the hero page there could be a page which displays the number of gvg's played and won and how many were against guilds rating x+ etc. However it is extremely foolish to base someone purely on stats. if you are considering letting them into your guild you should play with them

pah01 · Jun 06, 2006, 04:48 AM // 04:48

While I do agree with the idea of playing with the person before letting them join a title for GVG would still give you an idea how much experience a player has. Anyway I would like to strive for GVG title that is within my reach. Seems like the only players in GUILDWARS that almost dont get a title are those who actually play GUILDWARS. (Pun intended)

Sam

Patrograd · Jun 06, 2006, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by pah01

Seems like the only players in GUILDWARS that almost dont get a title are those who actually play GUILDWARS. (Pun intended)

Sam

QFT

As a player I play in Ha rarely, PVE when I absolutely have to, and Arenas on the occasions I am testing a new skill or build.

Basically I play GvG, 3-4 hours a day, 7 days a week, but I'm unlikely to play on a team with a rating of 1500+, ever to be honest.

So while a player could start earning points towards his "Canthan explorer" title the moment he loads his PVE toon up for the first time, can get fame points as easy as taking candy from the babies that tend to frequent that zone, and can earn gladiator points in the arenas without breaking sweat, players like me, and I believe there are alot of us, are left without any measure of our experience, because, as Sam says, we play Guild wars. How often do we play Guild wars, and at what level? Well, you'll just have to take my word for it.

Life Bringer · Jun 06, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13

I think that the problems is whereas a lot of people here just want to gain a gvg title I think they have misunderstood that Champion is supposed to be a very special title saved for the people at the very top of the gvg ladder. Now you may consider that unfair but surely its a good thing to have something that even top guilds have to strive really hard to get?

Patrograd · Jun 06, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

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Originally Posted by Life Bringer

Now you may consider that unfair but surely its a good thing to have something that even top guilds have to strive really hard to get?

I dont consider it unfair at all, hence the title of the thread.

taxed · Jun 06, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Proposal for this:

Level 1) Must be a minimum rating of 1200 and win 50 matches against rating 1200+ teams
Level 2) Must be a minimum rating of 1350 and win 50 matches against rating 1350+ teams
Level 3) Must me a minimum rating of 1500 and win 50 matches against rating 1500+ teams.

Each win in a tier up counts for the lower level...for example if you are rank 1400 and beat a rank 1375 team, and have no champion points yet, you get 1 point (this point works for level 1 and 2)
Similarily, if you have level 1, all wins that fit only the level 1 criteria count towards level 2.
I think this way there would be a good measure of the player's ability to GvG.

pah01 · Jun 07, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by taxed

Proposal for this:

Level 1) Must be a minimum rating of 1200 and win 50 matches against rating 1200+ teams
Level 2) Must be a minimum rating of 1350 and win 50 matches against rating 1350+ teams
Level 3) Must me a minimum rating of 1500 and win 50 matches against rating 1500+ teams.

Each win in a tier up counts for the lower level...for example if you are rank 1400 and beat a rank 1375 team, and have no champion points yet, you get 1 point (this point works for level 1 and 2)
Similarily, if you have level 1, all wins that fit only the level 1 criteria count towards level 2.
I think this way there would be a good measure of the player's ability to GvG.

Agreed.

Now we petition ANET????????????????????????????????????????????////

Life Bringer · Jun 07, 2006, 10:18 AM // 10:18

Sorry can you please clarify are you saying that level one gets u say the title: Average champion lol and level 2 gets you almost champion and then level3 criteria gets you champion?

taxed · Jun 07, 2006, 12:20 PM // 12:20

Lol...no idea what to call them, but I think that suits the needs of the community don't you?

pah01 · Jun 07, 2006, 12:53 PM // 12:53

Yeah and since the upper titles cannot be farmed as to get 1500 rating is crazy in the short seasons we have at the moment - maybe 150-200 people at the end of the season are in 1500 rated guilds assuming about 10-12 per top guild.

Then what we would find is that GVG would have its own title system that would own the heroes ascent one in terms of it being a definte achievement :P

Sam

monk domination · Jun 07, 2006, 06:58 PM // 18:58

people whine wayyyy to much in this game, gw set the requirements where they are at for a reason, they belive that is a fair judgeing of ur talents and what not, if u dont like how they are set just go find a new game and complain there.

Dzan · Jun 07, 2006, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by monk domination

people whine wayyyy to much in this game, gw set the requirements where they are at for a reason, they belive that is a fair judgeing of ur talents and what not, if u dont like how they are set just go find a new game and complain there.

Since your guild doesn't GVG it seems I find it odd you feel compelled to comment at all in this thread.

Life Bringer · Jun 07, 2006, 09:21 PM // 21:21

"people whine wayyyy to much in this game, gw set the requirements where they are at for a reason, they belive that is a fair judgeing of ur talents and what not, if u dont like how they are set just go find a new game and complain there."

Everyone here wouldn't be posting if they didn't love guild wars and enjoy it a lot. I know I am very grateful to Anet and NC Soft for creating such a good game. However what you are construding as whining is merely people voicing an opinion at what they believe would be an imporovement to the game

pah01 · Jun 08, 2006, 01:36 AM // 01:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by monk domination

people whine wayyyy to much in this game, gw set the requirements where they are at for a reason, they belive that is a fair judgeing of ur talents and what not, if u dont like how they are set just go find a new game and complain there.

Why dont you continue to play PVE and go away.

Sam

stueyman2099 · Jun 08, 2006, 10:55 AM // 10:55

Pretty much anything you set up for this type of thing will have a flaw, obviously the Champion title already does as evidenced by this threads existence. While I do believe the title should exist, not everyone is so hardcore at this game that they can compete at the level required to earn the Champion title. This is where a lesser title is needed. I'm basicly in favor of the idea that winning against 1100+ teams, 1250+, and then 1500+ teams to earn titles is the way to go, possibly with different and/or more intervals (sorry if I got the origional ones wrong).

50 wins vs. 1100+ : Conqueror
50 wins vs. 1250+ : Vanquisher
50 wins vs. 1500+ : Champion

I'd like ot have somthing to show for for what I like to do in this game.

Vanquisher · Jun 08, 2006, 11:33 AM // 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by taxed

Proposal for this:

Level 1) Must be a minimum rating of 1200 and win 50 matches against rating 1200+ teams
Level 2) Must be a minimum rating of 1350 and win 50 matches against rating 1350+ teams
Level 3) Must me a minimum rating of 1500 and win 50 matches against rating 1500+ teams.

Each win in a tier up counts for the lower level...for example if you are rank 1400 and beat a rank 1375 team, and have no champion points yet, you get 1 point (this point works for level 1 and 2)
Similarily, if you have level 1, all wins that fit only the level 1 criteria count towards level 2.

So you can be at say, 1250~ rating, and beat teams around 1200, and even if you stay up around 1250 rating, you can get the top title? Bad idea.

taxed · Jun 08, 2006, 12:31 PM // 12:31

Nope, you would not. type-o in the original post...dooh!