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Ecomancer · Jul 19, 2006, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by Yunas Ele

You were talking about pressure-spike builds when I was talking about spike builds. Pressure-spike is completely different.

Please highlight where I even mentioned pressure spike. Funny how you seem to pluck words out of nowhere;

"Actually, spiking is not the most basic concept of the game, its onep of the many concepts of the game, as in, not all builds and kills are spike reliant - my earlier post.

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Okay so your telling me the caller doesn't take skill too. I guess that means spike takes no skill at all but I disagree with that because it does take some but not much.

It appears you deduce things rather quickly. I did not imply that and here is my post;

Also, its not only the caller that has to be skilled. Everyone has to show skill otherwise collectively the team will go nowhere.

I sense a level of uncertainty, perhaps even hypocrisy in your above post - "because it does take some but not much"

Stop this silly practise of saying things on someone else's behalf it makes me laugh.

Gimme Money Plzkthx · Jul 19, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

Oh yes the necro orders certainly take skill in monking what with the near unlimited energy thing, unquestionably. Also, the majority of your examples are about bloodspike being easy, a build with 6 monks that do not need to practice energy management+a rit. THERE ARE SPIKES OTHER THAN BLOODSPIKE OUT THERE. Lets see an example of how those take less skill than iway.

FOR THE LAST TIME, regardless of how you people in MATH play iway, probably about 95% of iwayers are COMPLETE RETARDS and still manage to win without voice comm or any resmeblance of tactics. THAT is the reason iway is flamed, the point is it does not NEED tactics to win, REGARDLESS of how you extremely few people run it. /endrant

| Almighty | · Jul 19, 2006, 07:46 PM // 19:46

yunas ele.... i really dont know why do u bother posting somewhere here... coz your the one with less brainz arround here than anyone i saw...

i took u in my group only 1 time. We were testing the WoC (Word of Censure) Spike and... since were all monks kiting and running as u say is all u need vs iway U cant even do vs a balanced team.

1 of us got stuck on the Bridge bodyblocked, and u ran into him and got yourself bodyblocked for no reason, how brainless is that?.

Right after that you got into your "pro" iway groups and faced us on some map, cant really remember wich one and won.... why u won?

Read my lips: OOA... dont even try 2 mention iways skill or something..
its just pure hitting a target thats enchantments have been stripped due 2 OOA....your saying wards wards... i play Warrior in most balanced builds and i know how easy it is to interupt 1 ward against melee with distracting blow..
i tried playing iway for fun... they had Triple Aegis, Ward against melee and all they need like u said 2 survive vs an iway... hmmz i interupted melee and everyone just died due 2 apostasy...

So stay noob play iway. When OOA gets nerfed im gonnna laugh so much, enjoy till it lasts.

makosi · Jul 19, 2006, 07:46 PM // 19:46

The way I see it is:

Hypothetically, I am ArenaNet/NCSoft and I choose to adjust/nerf 'IWAY skills' (most likely Apostasy). IWAY-ers make up a huge proportion of the HA population whether they are r0-3, r3-6, r6-9, r9+. Do IWAY-ers play a different build or do they quit PvP or GW altogether? As a business I don't want to risk a ****load of players leaving and not buying Nightfall for obvious reasons. Why, from a business-man point of view should I upset so many customers?

D3file · Jul 19, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Iway makes people that spend hours making balanced team rage quit punch there monitors and bash iway. I play iway to make people mad and hate me. People like kastro and others make me sick. They run there mouths all the time while they played iway to get there high rank. Iway is gg cause it makes people that forget gw is a game mad.

llsektorll · Jul 19, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by makosi

The way I see it is:

Hypothetically, I am ArenaNet/NCSoft and I choose to adjust/nerf 'IWAY skills' (most likely Apostasy). IWAY-ers make up a huge proportion of the HA population whether they are r0-3, r3-6, r6-9, r9+. Do IWAY-ers play a different build or do they quit PvP or GW altogether? As a business I don't want to risk a ****load of players leaving and not buying Nightfall for obvious reasons. Why, from a business-man point of view should I upset so many customers?

that is exactly why it is lived for so long... don't piss off the paying noobs they have nowhere else to go but leave the game

Teh Mighty Warrior · Jul 19, 2006, 07:53 PM // 19:53

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Originally Posted by Gimme Money Plzkthx

Oh yes the necro orders certainly take skill in monking what with the near unlimited energy thing, unquestionably. Also, the majority of your examples are about bloodspike being easy, a build with 6 monks that do not need to practice energy management+a rit. THERE ARE SPIKES OTHER THAN BLOODSPIKE OUT THERE. Lets see an example of how those take less skill than iway.

FOR THE LAST TIME, regardless of how you people in MATH play iway, probably about 95% of iwayers are COMPLETE RETARDS and still manage to win without voice comm or any resmeblance of tactics. THAT is the reason iway is flamed, the point is it does not NEED tactics to win, REGARDLESS of how you extremely few people run it. /endrant

Idk how you got the idea in your head that the orders necros have unlimited energy, which they don't, unless the other team is dying quickly. I hope you weren't refering to me about meaning bloodspike is the only spike out there. Stop putting words into my mouth. How do the other spikes take less skill then iway? Well, rspike...321, press a button. Rainbow spike...321, press a button. See my point?

95% of iway are complete retards, how the hell did you come up with that grossly large number. If 95% of iway is complete retards, how come you don't roll iway every time? You must be the retard if you get rolled by iway in under 2 mins, then cry and bitch about it.

The reason iway is flamed is because:

A. It works better than the other builds most of the time.
B. It takes a few minutes to set up.
C. Before a match, the balance players talk shit, get rolled, then bitch about it.

llsektorll · Jul 19, 2006, 07:54 PM // 19:54

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Originally Posted by D3file

Iway makes people that spend hours making balanced team rage quit punch there monitors and bash iway. I play iway to make people mad and hate me. People like kastro and others make me sick. They run there mouths all the time while they played iway to get there high rank. Iway is gg cause it makes people that forget gw is a game mad.

playing iway would only make u feel good... why don't u hypotheically rip off his ba!!s and beat him in balance?

| Almighty | · Jul 19, 2006, 07:58 PM // 19:58

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Originally Posted by makosi

The way I see it is:

Hypothetically, I am ArenaNet/NCSoft and I choose to adjust/nerf 'IWAY skills' (most likely Apostasy). IWAY-ers make up a huge proportion of the HA population whether they are r0-3, r3-6, r6-9, r9+. Do IWAY-ers play a different build or do they quit PvP or GW altogether? As a business I don't want to risk a ****load of players leaving and not buying Nightfall for obvious reasons. Why, from a business-man point of view should I upset so many customers?

That is so true... the way i see it..more gw tombs population play iway.. the "few" skilled ones that dont will probably leave guild wars and not buy nightfall... anet trys to satisfy the majority wich is iway... so guild wars at the end will be a game full of "unskilled" players that play only iway, hmm very interesting, dont u think?

Yunas Ele · Jul 19, 2006, 07:58 PM // 19:58

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Originally Posted by | Almighty |

Omg why are u even trying 2 show iway as a weak build. iways has best defence is killin everything in under 2 minutes. Just because it uses the most Imbalanced skill ingame = Order Of Apostasy. With that skill on guild wars its stupid to use Enchantments ingame, if Anet wants to keep this skill as it is now they might aswell remove all other enchantment from the game. Why NR Tranq builds beats iway?, they dont have anything special... only they are modified not to use enchantments. Disabling OOA in that way so the iway is easy 2 beat. So if i get this right if u want to make if far iway limits you to play 1 build gg tombs.

HooD run a bonder and beat my IWAY team, who had OoA. Ask them how they do it. You can still run enchants with OoA, please see my previous posts, thanks.

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

lol, never watch us on tv ic... we are gvg guild we do tombs here and there... usually nothing serious... just like math is terrible at gvg we don't focus ourselves in tombs..

This is the HoH forum.

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Originally Posted by Ecomancer

Please highlight where I even mentioned pressure spike. Funny how you seem to pluck words out of nowhere;

"Actually, spiking is not the most basic concept of the game, its onep of the many concepts of the game, as in, not all builds and kills are spike reliant - my earlier post.

I misread your first post, my apologizies.

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Originally Posted by Ecomancer

It appears you deduce things rather quickly. I did not imply that and here is my post;

Also, its not only the caller that has to be skilled. Everyone has to show skill otherwise collectively the team will go nowhere.

You told me to see dgtboy's post, which is basically argueing that spike takes no skill. I don't see how the spikers take skill, please expand. Hmm, press your skill when caller says 1, nice, must be difficult.

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Originally Posted by | Almighty |

yunas ele.... i really dont know why do u bother posting somewhere here... coz your the one with less brainz arround here than anyone i saw...

i took u in my group only 1 time. We were testing the WoC (Word of Censure) Spike and... since were all monks kiting and running as u say is all u need vs iway U cant even do vs a balanced team.

1 of us got stuck on the Bridge bodyblocked, and u ran into him and got yourself bodyblocked for no reason, how brainless is that?.

Right after that you got into your "pro" iway groups and faced us on some map, cant really remember wich one and won.... why u won?

Read my lips: OOA... dont even try 2 mention iways skill or something..
its just pure hitting a target thats enchantments have been stripped due 2 OOA....your saying wards wards... i play Warrior in most balanced builds and i know how easy it is to interupt 1 ward against melee with distracting blow..
i tried playing iway for fun... they had Triple Aegis, Ward against melee and all they need like u said 2 survive vs an iway... hmmz i interupted melee and everyone just died due 2 apostasy...

So stay noob play iway. When OOA gets nerfed im gonnna laugh so much, enjoy till it lasts.

When you told me I have the "less brainz" your grammar was ****ing horrible. If you're going to make fun of someone's intelligence, at least use correct spelling and grammar because instead your only making yourself look stupid. Thanks.

I wasn't the only one who got stuck. First off sue ann ducket or w/e his name is got stuck. I guess hes an IWAY noob too yea? Me and the other guy that got stuck were running at the same time together. The other team had good body blocking, I don't know why you'd try to have the whole team run through such a slim area. Should of gone around, bad calling on your part.

llsektorll · Jul 19, 2006, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by Teh Mighty Warrior

The reason iway is flamed is because:

A. It works better than the other builds most of the time.
B. It takes a few minutes to set up.
C. Before a match, the balance players talk shit, then get rolled.

oo i like lists let me add to that...

D. Requires NO TACTICS
E. Warriors Run around like chickens to piss off monks...
F. Can be rank0 and still win..
G. Teams are almost always composed of trash talking prepubescent boys...

Yunas Ele · Jul 19, 2006, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

oo i like lists let me add to that...

D. Requires NO TACTICS
E. Warriors Run around like chickens to piss off monks...
F. Can be rank0 and still win..
G. Teams are almost always composed of trash talking prepubescent boys...

D. To play iway sucsessfully you need tactics.
E. lol?
F. And win zaishan and maybe UW but nothing else.
G. I've seen balance and spike teams act just as mature and say just as mature things (see Pi). There are people like this from all builds, not just IWAY.

makosi · Jul 19, 2006, 08:06 PM // 20:06

(Small rant about Order of Apostasy:

Why is it inconsistent to the other orders where the part members must hit with physical damage?)

Teh Mighty Warrior · Jul 19, 2006, 08:10 PM // 20:10

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

oo i like lists let me add to that...

D. Requires NO TACTICS
E. Warriors Run around like chickens to piss off monks...
F. Can be rank0 and still win..
G. Teams are almost always composed of trash talking prepubescent boys...

I like lists as well. In fact, since my previous one to this one made you look like a dumbass, I think I'll do it again.

H. Requires no tactics, wow, how many times have you said that in your last 3 or 4 posts. Iway requires more tactics than you think it does. Even though you don't even seem to think at all, so I guess that's not saying much.

I. Warriors run aroundl ike chickens to piss of monks, what the hell is this. You are bringing up stupid, ignorant comments that have no truth to them.

J. Can be rank0 and still win, that's why you hate iway? So r0s aren't supposed to win? They just stay r0 forever? I don't think so.

K. You know what, I am one of those trash talking idiots, except for the prepubescent boy part, but I only do it when the team we play against starts up with the "Iway noobs" or "F'ck iway", then, once we win, I'll finish what people like you start.

Well, looks like I just made you look like an dumbass...again. Stop posting in this thread to save yourself some descency.

| Almighty | · Jul 19, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by Yunas Ele

When you told me I have the "less brainz" your grammar was ****ing horrible. If you're going to make fun of someone's intelligence, at least use correct spelling and grammar because instead your only making yourself look stupid. Thanks.

I wasn't the only one who got stuck. First off sue ann ducket or w/e his name is got stuck. I guess hes an IWAY noob too yea? Me and the other guy that got stuck were running at the same time together. The other team had good body blocking, I don't know why you'd try to have the whole team run through such a slim area. Should of gone around, bad calling on your part.

First of all "less brainz" is less brains, wow u got that right im amazed, progress and for u who dont know( yunas ) thats so called gamer language kthx, yunas kthx = ok thank you. Your making this hard on me.. i have to write everything normal... and u said you were not the only one to got stuck?
true.. only he got shocked + warded into being bodyblocked and u came far away from that bodyblock and ran back into them, brainleZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZ nab... stop speaking your much smarter when u keep your mouth shut.

Ecomancer · Jul 19, 2006, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by Yunas Ele

You told me to see dgtboy's post, which is basically argueing that spike takes no skill. I don't see how the spikers take skill, please expand. Hmm, press your skill when caller says 1, nice, must be difficult.

My, aren't you really confused? You are in concordance with dgtboy; dgtboy is claiming spike takes no skill and so are you - " I dont see how the spikers take skill". Humor me some more, but earlier you were said "I guess that means spike takes no skill at all but I disagree with that because it does take some but not much.

First you say spiking takes some skill, not a lot, and now you are saying you can't see how spikers take skill. Carry on.

llsektorll · Jul 19, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

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Originally Posted by Teh Mighty Warrior

I like lists as well. In fact, since my previous one to this one made you look like a dumbass, I think I'll do it again.

H. Requires no tactics, wow, how many times have you said that in your last 3 or 4 posts. Iway requires more tactics than you think it does. Even though you don't even seem to think at all, so I guess that's not saying much.

I. Warriors run aroundl ike chickens to piss of monks, what the hell is this. You are bringing up stupid, ignorant comments that have no truth to them.

J. Can be rank0 and still win, that's why you hate iway? So r0s aren't supposed to win? They just stay r0 forever? I don't think so.

K. You know what, I am one of those trash talking idiots, except for the prepubescent boy part, but I only do it when the team we play against starts up with the "Iway noobs" or "F'ck iway", then, once we win, I'll finish what people like you start.

Well, looks like I just made you look like an dumbass...again. Stop posting in this thread to save yourself some descency.

ok i should feel insulted but guessing from your name... all you know how to run is iway....

ok since you seem to thrive on facts, i'll give them to you...

1... IWAY IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE EASIEST BUILD TO WIN IN HA WITH...
2... REASON IT IS EASY IS BECAUSE IT REQUIRES ALMOST NO TACTICS AND POOR OR LITTLE COORDINATION.
I don't hate on the people that play iway when they are new its a way to break into the world of HA which is enclosed by all the elites of GW.

You arn't making me look like a dumbass you do that to yourself by running iway... spare me your explanations because you found a build u can run that was easy and u stick to it till ur r9 so u can try to get into good guilds...

this is exactly why we don't care about fame its all about skill..

Yunas Ele · Jul 19, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

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Originally Posted by | Almighty |

First of all "less brainz" is less brains, wow u got that right im amazed, progress and for u who dont know( yunas ) thats so called gamer language kthx, yunas kthx = ok thank you. Your making this hard on me.. i have to write everything normal... and u said you were not the only one to got stuck?
true.. only he got shocked + warded into being bodyblocked and u came far away from that bodyblock and ran back into them, brainleZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZ nab... stop speaking your much smarter when u keep your mouth shut.

lol. Maybe I got shocked + u ask us to run through ward against foes gg. Hey guys lets rush through ward against foes in a slim, easilly bodyblockable area when they have lot of KD. Brilliant idea.

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Originally Posted by Ecomancer

My, aren't you really confused? You are in concordance with dgtboy; dgtboy is claiming spike takes no skill and so are you - " I dont see how the spikers take skill". Humor me some more, but earlier you were said "I guess that means spike takes no skill at all but I disagree with that because it does take some but not much.

First you say spiking takes some skill, not a lot, and now you are saying you can't see how spikers take skill. Carry on.

I'm responding to like 10 people at once so naturally I will make mistakes. The quote ""I guess that means spike takes no skill at all but I disagree with that because it does take some but not much." was responding to your post. Your post was basically saying spike takes no skill but I am saying no it takes a bit of skill, but not much.

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

ok i should feel insulted but guessing from your name... all you know how to run is iway....

ok since you seem to thrive on facts, i'll give them to you...

1... IWAY IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE EASIEST BUILD TO WIN IN HA WITH...
2... REASON IT IS EASY IS BECAUSE IT REQUIRES ALMOST NO TACTICS AND POOR OR LITTLE COORDINATION.
I don't hate on the people that play iway when they are new its a way to break into the world of HA which is enclosed by all the elites of GW.

You arn't making me look like a dumbass you do that to yourself by running iway... spare me your explanations because you found a build u can run that was easy and u stick to it till ur r9 so u can try to get into good guilds...

this is exactly why we don't care about fame its all about skill..

You have never played in a good IWAY team so you're just jumping to stupid conclusions about it. Come tag in on a good IWAY team and see if you still think this. I'd be glad to bring you on 1 run just so you can stop thinking these stupid things.

axe · Jul 19, 2006, 08:20 PM // 20:20

This thread will earn the title "Legendary Survivor" if it reaches the 200 post count without getting closed.

Messner · Jul 19, 2006, 08:25 PM // 20:25

Since Yunas Ele won't ever admit that someone else's point is right, is it safe to assume that unless he directly refutes your claim via quote, you are correct? If that is indeed the case, I'm glad to see we can agree as a majority

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D. To play iway sucsessfully you need tactics.
E. lol?
F. And win zaishan and maybe UW but nothing else.
G. I've seen balance and spike teams act just as mature and say just as mature things (see Pi). There are people like this from all builds, not just IWAY.

IWAY Tactics:
Necros: Spam OoP, OoA and Heal Party, Giggle at infinite energy.
Warriors: C-Space, Hit Things, Use Interrupts as if they did damage so you can randomly interrupt something you didn't even mean to, Eviscerate, Executioners, Run to Necros to get healed if necessary, hit IWAY when someone dies
Ritualist: Spam spirits, Don't own yourself with ritual lord (I'm sure 99% of you don't have a clue what I'm even talking about, if that's the case, don't think too hard you might hurt yourself.)
Ranger: Trap Necros, Spam spirits, Oath shot an enemy who conveniently doesn't have a single enchantment on him because OoA isn't underpowered.
All: Use your res signet

Whoa, that was much more than I originally thought, fortunately enough you don't even have to be looking at the screen to do 90% of them!!! Just blindly hit the buttons and you should be fine. But oh wait, won't the other team own your 4 warrior gank on one character with all those enchantments they can stack on him?!!?! Oh yeah, OoA, those don't matter.....