Curse

Spoony · Jul 14, 2006, 05:59 PM // 17:59

I thought id spend a few minutes today for making a build. It seems quite simple, here it is

v1.0 - http://www.gwshack.us/4572d
v2.0 - http://www.gwshack.us/7c06a
v3.0 - http://www.gwshack.us/f6c98
v4.0 - http://www.gwshack.us/99576
From this moment, no more SB:P
v5.0 - http://www.gwshack.us/b13c5
Oh yeah, by the way, SBHB - Star Burst Heal Ball , just wanted to make it short in the title

Why star burst? only spell that doesnt cuase exhasustion, helps in places where you need to elbow your way through. Helpful, fast recharge and cast time, and not too high energy cost. Neat

Atm im thinking of adding a ritualist spirit spammer, but ill add that later as i dont have a lot of time, sorry guys >.<.
Comments, as usual , are welcome

Spoony · Jul 15, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55

Update!!!

v2.0 version is on! New stuff!

- Added 2 heal parties instead of Jamei's Gazes, how could i possibly forget >.<

- Removed 1 spiker , and added a Ritualist Spirit spammer, for additional defence, and a "mass heal party" - Feast of souls

- Added missing attributes of the ranger spammer

Still waiting for those comments

TheOneMephisto · Jul 15, 2006, 03:36 PM // 15:36

This is just me, but you might want to kill the healing prayers on one of the eles and stick the points into earth, and then drop a couple of wards on him.

Also, boon of creation + tranquility + NR? Dunno if that's intentional, it works, but not very well.

Ruben · Jul 15, 2006, 04:31 PM // 16:31

6 spikers = overkill.
Get a warder with Melee, Elements, STABILITY, maybe Mantra of Resolve or something just so you don't get interrupted.
You get constant 50% block, great elemental damage reduction, no Meteor Shower/Gale interrupts.

Weapon of Warding instead of either Feast of Souls or Rez on the Ritual Lord to prevent some hero interrupts. Mantra of Resolve or something if your Rit gets constantly interrupted.

I think Boon of Creation is ok with Tranq, I don't see any better energy management skill.

Spoony · Jul 15, 2006, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Yeah well, he must have some sort of energy management, got any better ideas? Could say he could use it only in safe situations, tho. If you really dont like it tho, you may stick Shadow song in.

I dont think this build doesnt need wards . Why? Why are wards taken? For iway. What will iways do, when they have to decide to be star bursted , or to be taken out ranged, what would they pick? Its like, "Touch me and youre dead." - Cynn :P Or what was it like? ;p

Vindexus · Jul 15, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36

Why QZ and NR? How do you plan to use them together?

Ruben · Jul 15, 2006, 04:41 PM // 16:41

Wards are not only for IWAY. Ward against Melee pretty much owns most balanced builds spike-capability, halves the damage from Warrior pressure builds (not only IWAY) and you'll own them even with "only" 5 spikers if they come close.
Also you will get less Distracting Blows and stuff like that.
Not to mention builds with 2 or 3 Eles, which are very popular. Ward against Elements will help you.
And Meteor Shower, oh well, just try to play that build with and without Wards. :P

PS: Your eles still dont have energy management...

Spoony · Jul 15, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50

I fail to notice where did i put meteor shower in my build? >.< I did not, it would have exhaustion problems then. Why EW + QZ = Faster recharge, and most, if not all spells should be casted with 13 energy.(-15 energy + 30% ,10+30%= 13) Besides, try to get energy management with an e/mo, without having exhaustion problems. If you want to do damage to many foes, try using Star burst. It should blow those fellas in the altar right away

Update! v3.0 is up!

- Added wards

Atm thinking of replacing NR for some other spirit, however ill not do that today. Instead, im welcome for comments and changes.

Or, i might add Mark of rodgort. the update Anet did with it, so great. 34 seconds and 5 seconds recharge, just neat

TheOneMephisto · Jul 15, 2006, 08:07 PM // 20:07

No ward of stability? What happens if they decide to meteor shower/EQ/whatever else you?

Ruben · Jul 16, 2006, 12:30 AM // 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOneMephisto

No ward of stability? What happens if they decide to meteor shower/EQ/whatever else you?

Exactly what I thought when I mentioned Meteor Shower.
You better get 1 char with Wards and maybe EQ/AS or Shockwave or a damage skill, instead of placing wards on your spikers, you'll get more healing, with enough damage.

Spoony · Jul 16, 2006, 11:01 AM // 11:01

Oh true, i misunderstood

, sorry guys, im slightly foreign so i had the right to make the mistake >.<

sry:PPP

Update! v4.0 is up!

- Removed wards from spikers, replaced one spiker for one warder

- Since heal area/karei's healing circle recharge is like +/- 3 seconds with ew and qz, i replaced heal area for heal other in the infuser, and hex remover spikers.

stueyman2099 · Jul 16, 2006, 11:50 AM // 11:50

If you plan to have QZ, then there is absolutley no reason to have both Jamei's Gaze and Heal Other on the same skill bar. Hell, there's no reason for that with out it. I also think you could benefit from having at least 1 ele with protection prayers instead of healing for things like Aegis, Prot Spirit, and Guardian.

My other concern is the EQ and DS on the same bar. After Shock or Obsidian Flame would be better choices for one of those IMO, or alternatively, you could have Me secondary for mantra of resolve (people WILL want those wards interupted).

Sidenote: it is more efficient to have 16 communing than 16 spawning power.

suiraCLAW · Jul 16, 2006, 12:36 PM // 12:36

First of all: I think that you would have energy issuses, I just don't see why you take SB above emangement (in this case you would need to use second wind because of nr/tranq issuses).

I completely agree with stueyman2099 about the double skill issuses, I would rather see Flame Burst then Jamei's Gaze (that way, you wouldn't really need SB anymore).

Quote:

Sidenote: it is more efficient to have 16 communing than 16 spawning power.

agree, except if:
- the spirits can't be used in the backline. If you actually want to use spirits right in the front you should be able to renew them as soon as possible (because they would get killed anyway).
- if you have people with soul reaping (but this isn't the case).

In other words: 16 spawing power should be slightly more effective here.

Spoony · Jul 16, 2006, 02:40 PM // 14:40

v5.0 is up!

Changes! :

-Added flame bursts to eles as an additional warrior hate
-removed Star burst(now the title makes no sense, but who cares) , for Second wind for an additional energy management
-replaced pair of earthquake from warder for crystal wave as an additional warrior hate

Blood Hawk · Jul 16, 2006, 05:36 PM // 17:36

i thought second wind only gave energy if you had exhaustion.. and your monks have no exhaustion

Spoony · Jul 16, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43

That is untrue. The second wind spell itself causes exhaustion. So, when you gain the exhaustion, you gain as much energy lost by it. As simple as that.

Edit: As far as i know, and am concerned, if its used well, it may be used with similar effectiveness, than Ether Prodigy. Ether prodigy cant be used, however, due to obvious problems, nr + tranq.

Edit2: Any more hardcore comments?

Spoony · Jul 19, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50

Since i would like to add this to the HA builds section, is there anything left that needs to be said / edited ?

JR · Jul 19, 2006, 06:00 PM // 18:00

Well... it needs to be good first.

Spoony · Jul 20, 2006, 02:36 PM // 14:36

If it was bad, you should have locked it already.

I predicted -Jr's comment here;P It was like, i knew he was going to answer such a post

So it seems it needs some editing. Any ideas, geniuses

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