Originally Posted by Zui

Touch Rangers are not overpowered.

Life Stealing is not Healing. Scourage Healing has no effect on it.

Life Stealing is not Damage. It does not trigger Healing Hands.

Whirling Defense lasts for 21 seconds at 16 Expertise. No Touch Ranger should have less than 16 Expertise.

Frenzied Warriors using any melee weapon attack faster than Assassins with no IAS. Life Stealing is not damage, as such, Frenzy does not double it.

You are an idiot. Please do not post on somthing you have absolutly no clue about.

Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru

Let's see: because of Whirling Defense? No. Because Plague Touch? No. Then what? Damage of touch skills? No. Because of energy? Maybe. Perhaps self-healing? Yes, that's what I think!

I have an assasin and I love play with him, but people say that he is weak and that he runs away. One thing that that says is that the assassin can't kill a touch ranger, and there is less than a 1% chance to kill toucher with an assassin, but that's not true!

As I've said, the main thing is the toucher's profound ability to use self-healing. I have very good assassin skill, and only 1 skill to counter them. That skill is scourge healing: a monk skill skill from the smiting line.

What do I have in my assassin build? Well, I have 4 attacking skills (they must be from dagger mastery line), healing skills (Vigorous Spirit,Healing Hands and Healing Breeze) and a smiting skill via Scourge Healing.

What is Scourge healing? Let's see: Hex spell. For 30 sec, every time target foe is healed, the healers takes 15...67 damage. ( attribute: Smiting Prayers)

Why did I choose an assassin/monk and not warrior/monk? That is because an assassin with a high dagger mastery can attack twice in 1 hit, and he attacks at a faster rate than a warrior. Which is very good because Vigorous spirit!

So toucher can't heal himself because Scourge healing is on him, and he can't kill you because of Vigorous spirit. He will have on him whirling defense but only for about 10 sec. Then you can hit him with your combo.

What if there are two touchers on you? No problem! Just attack one toucher, and if you need to, heal yourself with Healing Hands. Sooner or later they will see that they can't kill you and will go away or stay and fight with you until death.

Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru

Why are Touch Rangers overpowered? Is it because of Whirling Defense? No. Is it because of Plauge Touch? No. Hmm, then why are they overpowered? Because Vampiric Touch and Vampiric Bite inflict too much damage? Maybe. Because of self-healing? Yes, self-healing is the main reason they are overpowered.

I have an Assassin, and I love to play with him. However, people say that he is weak; That he runs away. One thing that they say, is that there is no chance to kill a Touch Ranger with an Assassin, not even a 1% chance, but, they're wrong.

As I said, the main reason they are overpowered is self-healing. I have very good Assassin skills, and I have one skill to counter them. That skill is Scourage Healing. It's a Monk skill, from the Smiting Prayers line.

What do I have in my Assassin build you ask? Pay attention, I'm about to tell you. I have four attack skills, all are from the Daggar Mastery line. I'm not going to tell you my skills, but I'm sure you can find four Attack skills from the Daggar Mastery line that fit your liking, and your purpose. I also have skills from the Healing Prayers line, those skills are Vigorous Spirit, Healing Breeze, and Healing Hands [Elite]. I also have Scourage Healing, from the Smiting Prayers line.

What is Scourage Healing you ask? It's a Hex Spell that reads, for thirty seconds, every time target foe is healed, the healer takes 15...67 damage. As I have already stated two times, and now for the third time, it is under the Smiting Prayers attribute line.

Why do I choose Assassin/Monk as opposed to Warrior/Monk you ask? Because, an Assassin with higher levels of Dagar Mastery can attack twice in one hit. An Assassin also attacks faster with his Daggars than a Warrior is with a Sword, an Axe, or a Hammer. That is very good, because with Vigorous Spirit, you will heal yourself more often.

Here's what you can expect to happen when you use this build against a Touch Ranger. The Touch Ranger will not be able to heal himself because Scourage Healing is on him, and he won't be able to kill you because you have Vigorous Spirit on you. He will have Whirling Defense on himself, but only for 10 seconds or so. Then, after Whirling Defense ends, you can hit him with your combo.

What if there are two Touch Rangers on you? It's not a problem, just attack one Touch Ranger, and if you need healing, use Healing Hands [Elite]. They will soon see that they can't kill you, and after that point, they will go away and attack another target. There is another possibility though, the Touch Ranger may think they can still win! In which case, you will still end up killing them.

Well, that is my counter to Touch Rangers, and to many other builds because it would be stupid to have a build that can only counter Touch Rangers. After all, if you can only counter Touch Rangers, what happens if two Warriors attack you?

As you can see, this is a very good Assassin build that can counter Ranger/Necromancers that are Touch Rangers.

Originally Posted by Zui

You are an idiot. Please do not post on somthing you have absolutly no clue about.