Curse

Spoony · Jul 21, 2006, 12:49 PM // 12:49

Peace guys, i'll leave my build with no comments. Why? Because I'm just too cool:P, nah just kiddin. Anyways, i hope you like it. I think it would be one of the last ones before Nightfall. I'm empty of ideas.

v1.0 - http://gwshack.us/ae22b
v2.0 - http://gwshack.us/930c9
v3.0 - http://gwshack.us/9c476
v4.0 - http://gwshack.us/f3a28
Short Thoughts -

Hope there will be enough damage done.

Hmmm, perhaps replace the warriors for something more suitable?

P.s.: The green sign i picked for the thread, it is to bring people to this thread. Don't bielieve it works? Compare number of viewers of this thread to other of my threads.

Slit Wrists · Jul 21, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43

Tiger's stance ftl.

Too less hexes to make your curse nec useful

You'd rather bring oob instead of well of power and take some corpse control on the curse nec ( consume + profane )

And if you want to do some adrenaline spikes, to the limit is really needed.

Spoony · Jul 21, 2006, 02:18 PM // 14:18

Tiger stance - Sorry, dunno why did i do such a mistake like this. Replaced with Frenzy.

Hexes - The whole FoC is just to make damage to one foe, not many around, but if youre so desperate you may spam parasitic bond around.

To the limit - dunno about that one

Now, What the GORE ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO?

So you are telling me, to take Well of profane and Consume Corpse (2 death magic skills) and Offering Of Blood (Blood skill) on the Curse necro? "Are you stupid or a carrot?" lol, just kiddin. You must have made a mistake there.

Slit Wrists · Jul 21, 2006, 02:24 PM // 14:24

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Originally Posted by Spoony

So you are telling me, to take Well of profane and Consume Corpse (2 death magic skills) and Offering Of Blood (Blood skill) on the Curse necro? "Are you stupid or a carrot?" lol, just kiddin. You must have made a mistake there.

No.

Take oob on the blood nec ( cause that guy will lack energy )
then take consume and profane on the curse nec and remove some hexes.

You can actually keep some aoe hex like shadow of fear to make your foc more useful ( Against healing balls for example ). Maybe drop weaken armor and barbs for consume and profane ? 16 curse, 9 death, rest soul.
So basically, just use parasitic bond right before foc for the extra damages.

Just figured another downside : you have no wards.
I'll bring them on the blood nec

Haggard · Jul 21, 2006, 02:26 PM // 14:26

To The Limit is very useful for adren spikes because of its huge AoE, especially so with your 8A axe combo.

llsektorll · Jul 21, 2006, 03:20 PM // 15:20

here is my honest thought... build has alot of defense.. but offense sucks.. you'll stay live most of the time but you won't be able to kill for shit.. all u have for dmg is a FoC and smite on 1 warrior...

i would have to go with replacing the rit .. why do you have attuned was songkai when you have NO BINDING RITUALS(aka Spirit) so nothing is lower energy cast.. change the build to include:

warder: WaM, WaF, WoS, Earthquake, Aftershock, Obsidian Flame, Glyph of Energy, Rez
Spike with Ob flame..

Get rid of the Curse Warrior Support / Spiker ... and put in another warrior..
Adren spike with other warrior

Make your battery either run BiP or Myrtyr.
I would rather take BiP...

You do not need 3 monks... take 2 monks (Sb Infuse, WoH) and 1 rit spirit spammer with the standard HA rit build..

Rit lord, Boon of Creation, Shelter, Union, Displacement, Soothing, Feast of Souls, Rez..

you should be fine with 2 warriors spiking

Ruben · Jul 21, 2006, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

i would have to go with replacing the rit .. why do you have attuned was songkai when you have NO BINDING RITUALS(aka Spirit) so nothing is lower energy cast..

Spell. Hold Songkai's ashes for up to 45 seconds. While you hold her ashes, your Spells (and Binding Rituals) cost -5..41% of the base Energy to cast.

llsektorll · Jul 21, 2006, 04:15 PM // 16:15

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Originally Posted by Ruben

Spell. Hold Songkai's ashes for up to 45 seconds. While you hold her ashes, your Spells (and Binding Rituals) cost -5..41% of the base Energy to cast.

meh.. probably read it wrong... at work atm

so i post quick... anyways it still doesn't make that rit build too usefull..

Spoony · Jul 21, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39

Whoah, now ya messed me up. Thanks, and damn you sektor

After i played the rit around, i noticed, that ya ur sorta right. And a 2nd warrior is ok as well

And true, 2 warriors is a must, who would be killing the spirits anyway? As i added a warrior, i didnt feel any sense for that aoe smiter. So i switched the proffesions, and maded him whoah, a Martyred Windborne Smiting Warder

Was hard to fit the obsidian flame in, but i did it somehow. Dropped the ward against eles, since i used it the most rarely. Since i like ritualists , i have taken sektor's advice to add a ritualist spirit spammer. Made the warriors skills set, to make a nice synergy. I have also taken a lil advice from, uhhhh what was his / her name? Slick Wrips? or something. Anyways, i added some CC to the blood necro.

Oh yeah, one more thing. Monk backline can be changed.

v2.0 is up! Check First Post for v.2.0 link

P.s. Sektor, i like your avatar, it's a nice drawing. Too bad it isnt smiling. And it looks like a man when i look at it for the 3rd time.

llsektorll · Jul 21, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55

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Originally Posted by Spoony

P.s. Sektor, i like your avatar, it's a nice drawing. Too bad it isnt smiling. And it looks like a man when i look at it for the 3rd time.

GAH!! What the F---??

... well i could go with something a bit more sexy...

... didn't know hentai was viable x_X... ill change it soon. Im going avatar as soon as i get home from work..

Spoony · Jul 21, 2006, 06:03 PM // 18:03

[Start Offtopic] Uh, if thats hentai i wouldnt like to see the rest of the picture ( or at least, half of my non-perverted brain) Anyways, i suggest drawing something for your own , lol, thats best. [End Offtopic]

Okay, a lil offtopic is ok but this thread is to discuss the build, not someones perverted avatar, regardless Sektor

TheOneMephisto · Jul 21, 2006, 06:13 PM // 18:13

No cancel stance for frenzy FTW?

llsektorll · Jul 21, 2006, 06:17 PM // 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoony

[Start Offtopic] Uh, if thats hentai i wouldnt like to see the rest of the picture ( or at least, half of my non-perverted brain) Anyways, i suggest drawing something for your own , lol, thats best. [End Offtopic]

Okay, a lil offtopic is ok but this thread is to discuss the build, not someones perverted avatar, regardless Sektor

i have a few artworks... but if ur every looking for kickass wallpapers try.. boyis.com... best anime wallpaper site.. great artist works ^_^...

nah i don't have time to draw something ill just photosop something for now...

off topic FTW

llsektorll · Jul 21, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30

bak to topic.... why are you keeping that FOC?... umm...
so you want him to spread hexes right?... hex removal will take care of that in a min.. only 4 hexes in the entire build so running him is a waste of a slot... he willl also have no energy to keep spamming the hexes..
ok so you are thinking about a spike with weaken armor right?...

once you hit weaken armor on a target ur opposing team will instantly know who u are about to spike.. making the infusers job a walk in the park...

take out to the limit on the warriors.. frenzy is a good adrenaline builder in itself...

Ruben · Jul 21, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Drop "Watch Yourself!" for Distracting Blow.
Replace the second Shock Warrior by a Consume Soul Sword Warrior if you want someone killing spirits.

Quote:

W/Rt
16 Swordsmanship
13 Strength

Sever
Gash
Final Thrust
Consume Soul
Distracting Blow or Bull's Strike
Sprint
Frenzy
Rez Sig

Ritual Lord: take out Feast of Souls and Rez Signet for Mantra of Concentration and Weapon of Warding so your hero can actually cap an altar.

Warder: No Energy Management : I don't think having Martyr on a Warder is a good idea.

I don't see the point of OoP. If you're using it to spike you won't be able to Lifebane / Vamp Gaze on time. If used for pressure, I don't think it's worth it.
Drop it for Aegis or Convert Hexes or something like that.

Spoony · Jul 22, 2006, 10:39 AM // 10:39

Omg, sry , 4 x post >.< It is just my pc, GAAAH!!! I really apologize.

Energy management on most characters : And what do you think BiP necro is for >.<?

I tried to seperate martyr from the warder, and i somehow removed it and added 2 x extinguish. I replaced the curse necro with some ele.

Not sure about rit, but i'm not sure what should i take out for that Weapon Of Warding. And other thing, if you invest in restoration, it can be a good idea to take Recupertation, another skill i do not know what to replace for. Any ideas for that 1?
Hope that'll work.

Look up for v3.0

lishi · Jul 23, 2006, 04:11 AM // 04:11

here the probrem of v3

1) you are not making a lot of pressure , your only hope to kill something s trought spike. so you have to
1a) severy is pretty useless on the spike , its the only condition you have so it will be removed fast as light. put to the limit as well to spike faster.
1b) no enchantement removal. if you base your killing on the spike you need that. put gaze of contempt on the necro instead of putrid explosion.
2) the ritualist instead of prot monk imo suck. a good prot monk will give you more protection , condition removal , hex removal.
3) like i said on 2) you lack of hex removal. a classic hex team will be like 2 migrane mesmer 1 curse necro. the monk wll be able to deal with their own hex if their holy veil dont get interupted(and it will be) while your warrior gonna drown in the hex. like i said get rid of ritualist for a classic prot monk.

Ruben · Jul 23, 2006, 01:14 PM // 13:14

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Originally Posted by Spoony

Energy management on most characters : And what do you think BiP necro is for >.<?

LOL I'm stupid :P

Sever + Gash (+2x dmg, Deep Wound) > Sever + Galrath (+43 dmg)
Ether Renewal > Glyph of Energy on the Air ele
Ward Against Foes > Ward Against Elements

Necro:
Maybe switch Putrid for Gaze of Contempt or Draw Conditions (if your wars get blinded all the time).

Rit:
Feast of Souls -> Weapon of Warding (~7-8 seconds)
Rez Signet -> Mantra of Concentration

SB/Infuse
Switch out Healing Seed for HP, and Heal Other for Orison, better if you run only 2 monks imo.

Little pressure, good spike.

Spoony · Jul 23, 2006, 03:13 PM // 15:13

After reading Warskull's thread, about deep wound i actually think its right for that gash instead of galgrath, since even if that other warrior does it, why not another one,;P

Monks/ritualist - I already said, its just samples and its up to you what sort of monk/ritualist backline will you use ;P Everyone has their tastes. What matters is the other 5 people.

Wards - Oh gosh, i forgot i replaced that other ward for Earthquake, true , that.

Ritualist - im ok for a lil tweak

But no, i won't agree for that mantra of concentration.

Hex removal stuff - its up to monks, so look above about monks/ritualists thang

Lack of pressure? Hmmm, perhaps, it would be a good idea to replace 1 or even 2 of the warriors for some additoinal other kind of spiker? Or perhaps, some sort of shutdown character ? I have no idea. There are some of my ideas,

Domination based mesmer - Psychical Distractor , maybe? Or some sort of hexer? Could go in pairs with a FoC necro... if it became a spike , let it be a spike then.

We could also try my experimental smiter:P, yeah i know smiting sucks, but got better ideas

It could look like,Word Of Censure + some other smiting skills that could backup the warrior, or smiting attack skills ( banish, spear of light) or just some healing, or prot skills. Or, Glyph of Renewal + Divine Spirit + other skills is a good idea too. With one of those on, we would not need the Judge's Insight thang on the warder.

Im open to suggestions.