Curse

Railz · Jul 19, 2006, 05:33 PM // 17:33

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Originally Posted by sir lockt

iQ battled well and the effectiveness of their smite build was mainly due to the overall level of competing guilds during this event. it was frankly quite low...(comparing with the "normal" top 20 guilds...)

hahaha there were only 5 teams not able to play in the open event the ones that had already qualified. To say that the other guilds were poor, is an insult to everyone who plays on the ladder.Some usual top guilds didnt bother to play matches or couldnt be bothered sitting on thier computers for 35 hours playing as many games as possible ( no disrepect to iQ they earnt the place playing that many games) people have real lives also and have to fit playing games into work schedules, so dont take away the effort they put in and dismiss it as " of a low standard ". many teams also made the effort to stayed away from the build of the month (smite) and the effort they put in shouldnt be dismissed.

Ensign · Jul 19, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41

We did run Comfort Animal on the Warrior/Ranger...

sir lockt · Jul 19, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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Originally Posted by Railz

hahaha there were only 5 teams not able to play in the open event the ones that had already qualified. To say that the other guilds were poor, is an insult to everyone who plays on the ladder.Some usual top guilds didnt bother to play matches or couldnt be bothered sitting on thier computers for 35 hours playing as many games as possible ( no disrepect to iQ they earnt the place playing that many games) people have real lives also and have to fit playing games into work schedules, so dont take away the effort they put in and dismiss it as " of a low standard ". many teams also made the effort to stayed away from the build of the month (smite) and the effort they put in shouldnt be dismissed.

true... they didnt bottered, so the level dropped... The ones who did play, played smite...so the level dropped inherently... Also the normal evolution and adaption could not be there... so even "static" guilds could keep up the pace.

...and in a "normal" enviroment you cannot deny the smite build of iQ would not pwn so much... for both evolution, adaptation and invention would certainly prevent such scores.

They went in for the rush...they took the right tactics for it... for that chapeau! (I for one did not even try it

), but this is not a winning ladder tactic when fighting in the ordinary season... as simply proofed by the fact it didnt happen

Divineshadows · Jul 19, 2006, 08:30 PM // 20:30

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Originally Posted by Ensign

We did run Comfort Animal on the Warrior/Ranger...

I assume that this is because you wanted the ability to bring the pet with as the battle location moves. Do you feel that Retreat! is broken in its current state?

It was quite amusing to observe the battle and see a level 4 pet named Bob Dole.

Greedy Gus · Jul 19, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18

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Originally Posted by Ensign

We did run Comfort Animal on the Warrior/Ranger...

<- self owned

Did you in fact run it instead of res sig, and the whole time? I could have sworn I saw both valor and apollo running the bar I posted earlier, sever/gash/final/frenzy/bulls{E}/retreat/charm animal/res sig...

Thom Bangalter · Jul 20, 2006, 12:40 PM // 12:40

If you're already running w/r, why not squeeze in tiger's fury? I assume because of the investment in beast mastery you'd have to make that is kinda implausible skill point wise.

romO · Jul 20, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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Originally Posted by RaZoO

I see iQ got a gold trim, did the other 15 guilds get a silver trim as well?

Yes they did.

Ensign · Jul 20, 2006, 07:26 PM // 19:26

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Originally Posted by Divineshadows

I assume that this is because you wanted the ability to bring the pet with as the battle location moves. Do you feel that Retreat! is broken in its current state?

Yeah, you needed to be able to move the pet around as the battlefield changed, "Retreat!" has a radar effect range but you need to be within a ward of the dead pet. Careful pet corpse placement was key. =)

I don't know that it's broken, but it's a very strong skill especially in the mirror - it made it so you couldn't escape our thumpers, and our monks could kite your warriors (faster than Sprint!) around half the time. It was good enough that we invested 3 skill slots on it. Of course that we were willing to invest that much into making the skill work is a pretty good sign that something is out of whack itself. I certainly wouldn't argue with a nerf to the skill.

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Originally Posted by Divineshadows

It was quite amusing to observe the battle and see a level 4 pet named Bob Dole.

Bob Dole was a champion.

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Originally Posted by Greedy Gus

Did you in fact run it instead of res sig, and the whole time? I could have sworn I saw both valor and apollo running the bar I posted earlier, sever/gash/final/frenzy/bulls{E}/retreat/charm animal/res sig...

I think every character in the build underwent minor changes over the course of the weekend. But I'm sure the warrior always had Charm + Comfort. There's no way that you can run Charm without Comfort on that guy, if your pet dies in a bad place without Comfort you have two dead skills on your bar.

The warrior briefly had a ressig in place of Final Thrust for a couple of games when we were shuffling sigs around, but that was the extent of it I think.

Peace,
-CxE

~Vanilla~ · Jul 20, 2006, 07:35 PM // 19:35

According to guildwiki, Retreat! covers the entire map.

shardfenix · Jul 24, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by Wasteland Squidget

Dual smite, just like everyone else in the top 20. It's one of the best steamrolling builds.

Why wouldn't you want a monk with infinite energy?

/nerf

This ladder season means nothing because there are basically 2 builds that wtfpwn every other build there is. and those 2 builds are combinable into one build (dual smite thumpers needs a nerf, BADLY)