Jul 19, 2006, 11:07 PM // 23:07
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Honor Warriors [Honr]
Profession: R/Me
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Flatbow or Longbow
which is better for pvp? or does it depend on the build?
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Jul 19, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22
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#2
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No power in the verse
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flfty Five Monk
which is better for pvp? or does it depend on the build?
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I would have to say that neither bow sees that much play in PvP, but the longbow is seen much more often than the flatbow. The reason is because of accuracy. The longbow has a medium arc, while the flatbow has a very high arc making it easy for the arrow to miss. The flatbow fires once every two seconds, while the longbow once every 2.5 seconds. The faster refire rate isn't worth it though if your arrows are missing.
The most common type of bow used in PvP is the recurve (composite) bow. It has the lowest arc and hence the best accuracy which is important for interrupting, spreading conditions, and doing damage.
In certain builds that use read the wind or favorable winds, a flatbow may make sense because the arc is reduced by this prep and nature ritual. My recommendation is to use multiple bows of varying range and arc in your 4 different weapon sets -- they do give you 4 options after all -- and switch weapon sets depending upon situations throughout a given battle.
It helps if you test your bows with your build first. I ran into a player last night using a flatbow running apply poison and crippling shot, and my team had no trouble at all strafing the highly arcing green arrows coming down on us. Very amusing indeed.
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Jul 19, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31
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#3
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Grenth's Rejects [GR]
Profession: R/Mo
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Agreed. Recurves are very nice for PvP. I still use Longbows on occasion to get in a suprise poison/cripple shot on unsuspecting enemies.
On the terms of Recurve, I suggest Gargash since you get good energy management from it.
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Jul 19, 2006, 11:45 PM // 23:45
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#4
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Honor Warriors [Honr]
Profession: R/Me
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okay thanks guys but the recurve don't really like that it doesn't have 15^50.. =/
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Jul 19, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47
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#5
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Grenth's Rejects [GR]
Profession: R/Mo
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Haha, I Figured. It's gonna be hard finding a 15^50 Recurve though with perfect mods.
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Jul 19, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50
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#6
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Honor Warriors [Honr]
Profession: R/Me
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does recurve have any good skins?
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Jul 20, 2006, 12:00 AM // 00:00
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#7
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Re:tired
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flfty Five Monk
okay thanks guys but the recurve don't really like that it doesn't have 15^50.. =/
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Yes... it does.
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Jul 20, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01
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#8
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Grenth's Rejects [GR]
Profession: R/Mo
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Gargash because it looks like a Horn/Dead (Can never remember which) Bow but operates like a Recurve. Rotwing Recurve, I hear, has a spiffy unique look.
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Jul 20, 2006, 01:06 AM // 01:06
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#9
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Desert Nomad
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Highwind
Gargash because it looks like a Horn/Dead (Can never remember which) Bow but operates like a Recurve. Rotwing Recurve, I hear, has a spiffy unique look.
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It's Dead Bow I believe.
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Jul 20, 2006, 01:07 AM // 01:07
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#10
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Desert Nomad
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BTW, you guys do realize that if your making a pvp char, you get to choose through all the perfect mods...if you have them unlocked.
And yes, there are plenty of 15^50 recurve bows...lol
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Jul 20, 2006, 01:42 AM // 01:42
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#11
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Grindin'
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: MO
Profession: E/Mo
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for crip shot flag running: nandet's recurve bow
for oath shot of any kind: rotwing's " " " "
the only time I DON'T use a recurve bow in pvp is when I'm doing ranger spike, then it's 5/1 vamp hornbow, and 20/20 longbow (standard equipment, both 15^50 health +30 of course).
of course, pvp characters always have these stats.
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Jul 20, 2006, 01:48 AM // 01:48
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#12
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Grenth's Rejects [GR]
Profession: R/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendary Shiz
BTW, you guys do realize that if your making a pvp char, you get to choose through all the perfect mods...if you have them unlocked.
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Keyword: Unlocking.
Faction is nice but a little monotonus if you are working with a$$hats in PvP.
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Jul 20, 2006, 02:24 AM // 02:24
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#13
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Grindin'
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: MO
Profession: E/Mo
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good point. my green suggestions will work just fine though. there's also a green poisonous bow if you want to go that route, but I don't know when you would. just check the wiki for the greens list, and pick what would be best.
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Jul 20, 2006, 05:49 AM // 05:49
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#14
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: CA
Guild: in it for the trimmmm
Profession: R/
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cripshot flag running you want long, recurve and short~
&you say oath just recurve_ long, too.
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Jul 20, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16
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#15
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Honor Warriors [Honr]
Profession: R/Me
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alright thanks all
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Jul 20, 2006, 02:27 PM // 14:27
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#16
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Honor Warriors [Honr]
Profession: R/Me
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wait so would i need a sundering bow at all?
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Jul 20, 2006, 05:35 PM // 17:35
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#17
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Grenth's Rejects [GR]
Profession: R/Mo
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Yes, A Sundering mod would be great when facing Warriors due to their evil armor, preferably 20/20.
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Jul 20, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04
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#18
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Hell's Protector
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]
Profession: D/A
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Sundering is just plain terrible - if you're looking for a good damage-enchancing bowstring, I would select either an elemental mod (due to the nerf on warrior's armor resistance to elemental attacks) or a vampiric mod (due to the armor-ignoring damage). I personally prefer either a zealous bowstring or a crippling bowstring, due to their overall utility in PvP battles.
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Jul 20, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07
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#19
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Honor Warriors [Honr]
Profession: R/Me
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o i c
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Jul 20, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07
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#20
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No power in the verse
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Highwind
Yes, A Sundering mod would be great when facing Warriors due to their evil armor, preferably 20/20.
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Vampiric does an extra 5 damage to a warrior on every hit, which equates to much more damage on average than a sundering mod. Or if you're using apply poison, then go with a lengthen poison duration mod and you'll end up doing more damage than any other mod can net you with apply poison.
Bottom line - sundering is crap. Do not waste your mod on it at the PvP character creation screen unless your build does not require you to do damage and no other choice makes sense. Certainly do not waste money buying a sundering mod for a PvE character.
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